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[thematic]

Why you people must contradict yourself so plainly?

"Ultra" texture are NOT what the PS4 runs at. We are looking at high. If they wanted they could easily push in some insane resolutions to the point that not even 10Gb will be enough. So what? Not even 3 or 4 Gb will be enough in a few years. It's not like the resolution of a texture requires a lot more work for an artist.

We have to agree on what "next gen" means, because if we consider Xbox one and PS4 the canon of next-gen, then we still have to prove that on PC more than 2Gb is need (on same settings).

I mean "next gen" (with quotes) not only PS4/XB1 level (High) but "next gen games on PC with highest texture quality". In this game = Ultra.

 

[HRose]

I mean "next gen" (with quotes) not only PS4/XB1 level (High) but "next gen games on PC with highest texture quality". In this game = Ultra.

Fine, then I can tell you that 3Gb won't be remotely enough for maximum settings in a year or so.

The comfort level is what pleases enough your eye. 2Gb at a standard 1080p should be enough. Higher resolutions may benefit bigger textures. On games like Titanfall ultra textures are virtually indistinguishable from "high" even if you go pixel hunting. Memory usage goes up, visual quality barely moves.

There are diminishing returns. I simply think that it's better saving the money and buy a better videocard later, than buying a 4Gb model now and expect it to "last" and keep running everything at ultra. Because it won't.

 

[Dries]

Holy shit, these impressions are scaring the hell out of me. So what I asked previously probably isn't going to fly, is it?

Hey guys, I was wondering if I could get the most ultra settings and get around 45 fps with my rig. 60 fps is no requirement, everything between 40-45 will be golden. Will I get that with a:

i5 2500k 3.3 ghz (NOT overclocked)
8 GB ram
GTX 770 2 gig
Playing at 1920 x 1080

Thanks!

 

[Serick]

Holy shit, these impressions are scaring the hell out of me. So what I asked previously probably isn't going to fly, is it?

From what I've read it sounds like you can hope for High textures, mostly Ultra, cheap AA, 1080p, and 30 FPS.

 

[Gambit61]

These days, I am not sure why people don't take and show screenshots displaying CPU & GPU usage, PC & GPU ram usage and fps. Saying a game running fine could be 144fps, 60fps, 45fps, 30fps, 20fps and etc. Once, someone said this game was 'fine,' and when he posted a screenshot, it was 15fps.

lmao that's ridiculous. I don't know how sub 30fps drops can be considered fine, let alone 15fps.

 

[flaxknuckles]

680 2GB
3570K @ 4.7
16GB RAM

I managed to get 60 fps on High with TXAA 2X

My frames dip to 30 while driving and is completely horrible on anything other than TXAA.

Edit: Feels like Black Flag all over again.

Turn off Vsync and force it through your gpu drivers. It's not triple buffered, so it fucks up the framerate.

 

[UnrealEck]

Holy shit, these impressions are scaring the hell out of me. So what I asked previously probably isn't going to fly, is it?

You can run the ultra preset with high textures. 1080p, 50+ FPS.

 

[Aj174]

Alright so my rig is as follows :
i5 4670 k and gtx 760, no overclocking

I'm getting around 40-50 fps on high settings with one or two settings on ultra. If everything is on high I average about 50 fps, I'm using temporal smaa, and v sync is on (1 frame ).

I actually like the day time graphics better than the night time graphics , anyone else feel the same way ?

 

[Dries]

From what I've read it sounds like you can hope for High textures, mostly Ultra, cheap AA, 1080p, and 30 FPS.

You can run the ultra preset with high textures. 1080p, 50+ FPS.

That doesn't sound too bad I guess.

 

[coughlanio]

4670k, 290x and 16GB DDR3-2400.

I get ~30FPS on with Ultra/Maxed

I also get ~30FPS on default high, so something is definitely wrong.

 

[Noisivne]

4670k, 290x and 16GB DDR3-2400.

I get ~30FPS on with Ultra/Maxed

I also get ~30FPS on default high, so something is definitely wrong.

Yous should definitely be getting MUCH better performance than that. Same issue here. Don't know why I expected any more from Ubisoft.

I'm getting around 20-30 fps on ultra. I feel I should be getting higher.
Here are my specs:
2x Sapphire 2GB 7870s
AMD-FX 8350 Processor 4GHz (no oc)
8GB Ram
Running off of an SSD

I also made sure I had the newest ATI drivers installed. Even on medium I only get ~50fps. On ultra settings, the GPU usage is only at around 47%. Is this just another case of Ubisoft's shit optimization or is my rig not good enough?

 

[SapientWolf]

How CPU limited is this game? Is anyone getting the same fps after dropping the resolution down?

 

[kinggroin]

How CPU limited is this game? Is anyone getting the same fps after dropping the resolution down?

Phenom II x4


I'll let you know when it's officially unlocked.

 

[TSM]

Yous should definitely be getting MUCH better performance than that. Same issue here. Don't know why I expected any more from Ubisoft.

I'm getting around 20-30 fps on ultra. I feel I should be getting higher.
Here are my specs:
2x Sapphire 2GB 7870s
AMD-FX 8350 Processor 4GHz (no oc)
8GB Ram
Running off of an SSD

I also made sure I had the newest ATI drivers installed. Even on medium I only get ~50fps. On ultra settings, the GPU usage is only at around 47%. Is this just another case of Ubisoft's shit optimization or is my rig not good enough?

Check your video ram usage. That seems to be the biggest culprit when people are having frame rate issues. Also I'd imagine AMD and nvidia have new video card drivers for this game that aren't released yet.

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

Yous should definitely be getting MUCH better performance than that. Same issue here. Don't know why I expected any more from Ubisoft.

I'm getting around 20-30 fps on ultra. I feel I should be getting higher.
Here are my specs:
2x Sapphire 2GB 7870s
AMD-FX 8350 Processor 4GHz (no oc)
8GB Ram
Running off of an SSD

I also made sure I had the newest ATI drivers installed. Even on medium I only get ~50fps. On ultra settings, the GPU usage is only at around 47%. Is this just another case of Ubisoft's shit optimization or is my rig not good enough?

Disable crossfire.

CF never works out of the box with new engines.

 

[KainXVIII]

4670k, 290x and 16GB DDR3-2400.

I get ~30FPS on with Ultra/Maxed

I also get ~30FPS on default high, so something is definitely wrong.

Set Vsync to 1 if you have 2.

 

[Gvaz]

30-45ish fps on a i5 3570k @ 4.2, 8gb ddr3, and a GTX750ti @ 1080p.

Everything on High defaults.

 

[UnrealEck]

i7 920
6GB RAM
GTX 770 2GB

 

[Kanokare]

i7 920
6GB RAM
GTX 770 2GB

Sweet about the same specs as mine. How much was your ram usage?

 

[xBladeM6x]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Anyone with a 780 or 780ti playing on a i7?

What are your results on ultra vs high on 1080p?

 

[Noisivne]

Check your video ram usage. That seems to be the biggest culprit when people are having frame rate issues. Also I'd imagine AMD and nvidia have new video card drivers for this game that aren't released yet.

Yup, it seems to be using all of the RAM. I also disabled crossfire, but that only gave me a 10 fps boost. I guess my only option is to wait for a patch and see.

 

[russian box]

Heres the last digital trip i've done. PC HIGH

PSYCHEDELIC Digital Trip!


I also did a Cash Run. coming sooooon

 

[TSM]

Yup, it seems to be using all of the RAM. I also disabled crossfire, but that only gave me a 10 fps boost. I guess my only option is to wait for a patch and see.

There's going to be a lot of blow back from people with 2GB video cards if video card driver updates don't significantly affect the video ram usage.

 

[KingpinZero]

i7 3770k @ 4.6 ghz
8GB g.Skill Ares 1600mhz CL9
Asus VG248QE 1080p @ Lightboosted 120hz
Zotac AMP! GTX 780 Ti 3GB +50+200 (337.81)

In game settings:
1080p
All maxed out + XML deferred "PC" tweak (was console previously)
TXAA 2x
Vsync 2 Frames <-- half the refresh rate of your panel; in my case it is 120hz but rendered at 60 instead of 120. It keeps my gpu cooler while keeping the lighboosted 120hz refresh rate. I wish other games had this option.
Gpu Render Ahead 3 Frames <-- nothing to see here. Set vsync to 1 (actual refresh rate) and this value to "2" to have triple buffering. 3 is default nvidia setting in the driver.

Final note: for those wondering how my system performs without Vsync, it averages 75fps on rainy days. On sunny or night, it goes up to 90fps. Skybox or closeup hits the refresh rate cap of 120fps.
A single oced 780 ti cant push 120fps alone. It stays at 99% of usage all the time without Vsync.

60fps 99% of the time. Slows down to 55 in some intense scenes.
Theres some hiccups when loading certain areas, its not always smooth.

Fixed the hiccups and stuttering by using LargePage_Util tweak. Now it doesnt happen every damn time. Its smoother.

 

[Camp Lo]

Turn off Vsync and force it through your gpu drivers. It's not triple buffered, so it fucks up the framerate.

Ah. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

That really helped out a lot. Now I'm getting 45 at the lowest and driving gives me 60 FPS.

 

[Gvaz]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

That wasn't the same version, that was some script kiddie who included a bitcoin miner in the 3DM version and listed it as skidrow.

 

[xXBaconXx]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

No one else has reported anything like that. Just because some random anon says that a torrent inclued a Bitcoin miner doesn't make it true. Odds are that the miner was on his system the whole time, and he just hadn't noticed it yet. The article is just massive clickbait.

 

[blastprocessor]

Anyone playing on a Geforce 660 GTX?

 

[Denton]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

That is hilarious.

 

[Spectrasonic]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

YES!

 

[ANuclearError]

Does anyone have an idea on how it would run on GTX 760, i5-4670k and 8GB RAM?

 

[Vuze]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

That's funny, I thought about the same thing today but actually that Ubi is running some mining software within the game which causes the not-so-awesome performance.

 

[Angelus Errare]

For anyone who "downloaded" the game early on PC, you may want to read this article about something that was included with the

Spoiler

SKIDROW

version of the game, and why you're likely getting fucking horrible performance.

http://www.eteknix.com/did-you-pirate-watch_dogs-you-may-be-mining-bitcoins-for-someone/

Developers should start doing this themselves lol

 

[gossi]

No one else has reported anything like that. Just because some random anon says that a torrent inclued a Bitcoin miner doesn't make it true. Odds are that the miner was on his system the whole time, and he just hadn't noticed it yet. The article is just massive clickbait.

I actually just checked out the file listing on the torrent in question, and it doesn't contain these files.

 

[TSM]

That's funny, I thought about the same thing today but actually that Ubi is running some mining software within the game which causes the not-so-awesome performance.

The game actually appears to run reasonably until you run out of vram. This is why you see a lot of "The game runs fine unless I'm driving really quickly." Also running ultra settings brings 2GB cards to their knees.

 

[finalflame]

i7 3770k @ 4.6 ghz
8GB g.Skill Ares 1600mhz CL9
Asus VG248QE 1080p @ Lightboosted 120hz
Zotac AMP! GTX 780 Ti 3GB +50+200 (337.81)

In game settings:
1080p
All maxed out + XML deferred "PC" tweak (was console previously)
TXAA 2x
Vsync 2 Frames <-- half the refresh rate of your panel; in my case it is 120hz but rendered at 60 instead of 120. It keeps my gpu cooler while keeping the lighboosted 120hz refresh rate. I wish other games had this option.
Gpu Render Ahead 3 Frames <-- nothing to see here. Set vsync to 1 (actual refresh rate) and this value to "2" to have triple buffering. 3 is default nvidia setting in the driver.

Final note: for those wondering how my system performs without Vsync, it averages 75fps on rainy days. On sunny or night, it goes up to 90fps. Skybox or closeup hits the refresh rate cap of 120fps.
A single oced 780 ti cant push 120fps alone. It stays at 99% of usage all the time without Vsync.

60fps 99% of the time. Slows down to 55 in some intense scenes.
Theres some hiccups when loading certain areas, its not always smooth.

Fixed the hiccups and stuttering by using LargePage_Util tweak. Now it doesnt happen every damn time. Its smoother.

What is this Large_Page Util?

 

[UnrealEck]

Sweet about the same specs as mine. How much was your ram usage?

Main memory or frame buffer?

Frame buffer was around 1900MB. Usually hovered just below 2000MB.
Main memory I'd have to check but I think it used about 3-4GB.

The game's performance only really takes a hit when there's large data sets being constantly moved. For example driving fast through the suburban area which has a lot of diverse assets. If you have 3GB of VRAM or more I'm betting it would have a lot less of those micro stutters when moving quickly through these areas.

 

[Smokey]

I'n getting about 60% SLI usage with 337.50 drivers with SLI 780s, although the game runs at 30fps. I don't think the SLI drivers are utilising the cards enough as it should be maxing them when I'm getting 30fps on something. I'm playing a 4K, maxed by the way

You need to download 337.81 drivers.

I will be running the same setup, except with 780ti SLI. Assuming you don't have the 6GB 780, what is your VRAM usage looking like?

 

[Gvaz]

I actually just checked out the file listing on the torrent in question, and it doesn't contain these files.

Older versions did before everyone caught on.

Also watch dogs doesn't need a bitcoin miner, it already has one!

Spoiler

uPlay lol

 

[UnrealEck]

Does anyone have an idea on how it would run on GTX 760, i5-4670k and 8GB RAM?

I'd guess high settings, high textures, 1920x1080 at around 40-50 FPS average.

 

[Matty8787]

I have an i5 2500k oc'd at 4.3ghz
an MSI GTX 770 Gaming 4gb
and 8 gb of ram.

All I want is to play this at high or more in 1080p?

Am I safe? Tell me I am safe... Please?

 

[TheD]

GTA4 was released in December 2008, 5 and a half years ago, and performance on dual core CPUs was seriously lacking. It only went downhill from there.

Not only is GTA IV an outlier (needing a quad core was very much not a trend for years after), but it in fact plays fine with faster C2Ds!

 

[ANuclearError]

I'd guess high settings, high textures, 1920x1080 at around 40-50 FPS average.

Hmm, guess I'll need to put up with a few extra jaggies then I guess. Could be worse I suppose.

 

[roMonster]

Does the performance change when it rains?

 

[Seanspeed]

Unless you hit the VRAM limit, a 2GB and a 4GB 770 with the same clockspeed will perform the same if the only difference is higher texture quality.

And while you might not think that the small differences between high and ultra is worth it, plenty of others do.

I agree with him. I want to see benchmarks. Its not necessarily an argument about whether or not more vRAM is good, its about whether or not a 770 specifically can take advantage of that extra RAM and perform significantly better as a result.

 

[UnrealEck]

I have an i5 2500k oc'd at 4.3ghz
an MSI GTX 770 Gaming 4gb
and 8 gb of ram.

All I want is to play this at high or more in 1080p?

Am I safe? Tell me I am safe... Please?

Maxed out (higher than the ultra preset) with some AA. 50+ FPS.

People mentioning the console versions being on high. I'm not sure if it is, but I did notice the draw distance on objects is lower on the new consoles than it is on the high preset on PC.

 

[kakashi08]

Did everyone get it because they pre-ordered it? Doesn't the game release on the 27th?

nvm: read the first page lol

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

i5 3570
12GB RAM
HD Radeon 7950

Any idea if i'm good for Ultra people?

:O I'm not a junior anymore!

 

[Matty8787]

Maxed out (higher than the ultra preset) with some AA. 50+ FPS.

People mentioning the console versions being on high. I'm not sure if it is, but I did notice the draw distance on objects is lower on the new consoles than it is on the high preset on PC.

Ah nice one! Thanks for the reply.