Uncharted 4 Trailer runs in-engine, in-game, in realtime on a single PS4 at 1080p60
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I Want Your Cat
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Oh man this is gonna be great. When is this expected to come out? Any release window? I'm not a huge uncharted fan, but I cant help but get excited for this game. If they improve the gameplay, then I'm happy.
GribbleGrunger
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If that's the standard we reach and it stays at that standard for the next ten years, I'll be contented for that ten years.
Now at last, we can concentrate on what matters: The characters, the story and contextual gameplay.
Now at last, we can concentrate on what matters: The characters, the story and contextual gameplay.
Just 2015 as of now.
Maninthemirror
Banned
The standard after this will be Morpheus and Oculus with those graphics
Naughty Gods have never failed to show why they are not masters of their craft! When ND steps on stage you can't help but sit and lean in for what always seems to be amazing work! 60 frames is a bold move for 3rd person, which should cement their legacy as the premier console graphics king
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EmptySpace
Banned
stage 1: denial.
optimized to hell and back for the sole purpose to impress.
just lol. yeah, where are those games trailers whose purpose isn't to impress?
travisbickle
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Looks ok, I guess?
Seriously, how hard is it to read the OP? So yeah, how stupid of you.
That pic is also more than just a bit disingenuous. We all know ND adjusted the lighting in that scene, which made it look like shit. Gameplay however, looked identical. It's also very convenient for you to have left out the pics that show an improvement from UC2's unveil compared to release. But, that wouldn't fit the narrative you're trying to create, would it?
Kssio_Aug
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Just for comparison, what did ND stated about that Ucnharted 3 reveal on that time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHcM6aHPnE
They said it was "in-engine" or "rendered on PS3"?
I mean, not after release, but really at the reveal, like theyre stating today!
About that bus comparion pictures, people usually uses that one all the time. But other scenes actually, if I remember correctly, did not suffered that downgrade (most of them were almot just a concept change, like the clothes changes on The Order trailer).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHcM6aHPnE
They said it was "in-engine" or "rendered on PS3"?
I mean, not after release, but really at the reveal, like theyre stating today!
About that bus comparion pictures, people usually uses that one all the time. But other scenes actually, if I remember correctly, did not suffered that downgrade (most of them were almot just a concept change, like the clothes changes on The Order trailer).
No doubt the game will look good, but it will not look as good as this trailer during gameplay. I don't doubt they'll be able to pull off some impressive stuff during the heavily controlled real-time cutscenes, but gameplay will not match this fidelity, particularly not at 60fps.
I get it, GAF really, really likes Naughty Dog. I understand it's not cool to talk bad about them or doubt them 'round these parts, but anyone who actually believes the game will look that good consistently during gameplay is setting themselves up for disappointment.
I get it, GAF really, really likes Naughty Dog. I understand it's not cool to talk bad about them or doubt them 'round these parts, but anyone who actually believes the game will look that good consistently during gameplay is setting themselves up for disappointment.
Beerman462
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I love Naughty Dog. TLOU was my favorite game last year and I have finished it 3 times. I plan on buying a PS4 and TLOU re-mastered, but they cut corners.
Example A:
The back of the bus is one huge flat polygon with a terrible texture as is the side of the bus minus the wheel wells. 90% of the time it doesn't matter, but in areas where there are a lot of vehicles it's ugly as hell and very distracting how bad the vehicles look.
So they purposely made it look like shit? Also regardless of reasons the fact is that the E3 trailer looked worse than the actual game. No need for other examples. The fact is you can't fully trust tightly focused game trailers to represent a final product. Also what's my agenda exactly ?
Dead Man Typing
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Actually, since their cutscenes are real time now then the download sizes will be much smaller.
7DollarHagane
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The thing people don't actually understand is that this is a high detail cutscene model, just like they did in MGS4, All the Uncharted games, Ryse, Crysis 1/2/3, etc.
When the camera is in close and focusing on dialog you get models like the one shown.
When you're running around and 10+feet away from the character some of those details can go away in order to keep the game world around you looking better.
This has been the standard for games using real time cutscenes for a LONG time. All the way back to the original MGS. Level of Detail is a reality of real time rendering.
It makes zero sense to have this kind of detail on a model that is used in gameplay that is always seen from 10+feet away which you won't be able to discern anyway because his face is reduced to a few thousand pixels vs the millions used in a close up shot like the one in the trailer.
Jeff gerstman alt account?
Niftyartwork
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A poor comparison indeed then
GribbleGrunger
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I love Naughty Dog. TLOU was my favorite game last year and I have finished it 3 times. I plan on buying a PS4 and TLOU re-mastered, but they cut corners.
Example A:
The back of the bus is one huge flat polygon with a terrible texture as is the side of the bus minus the wheel wells. 90% of the time it doesn't matter, but in areas where there are a lot of vehicles it's ugly as hell and very distracting how bad the vehicles look.
What the hell sort of screengrab is that? Are you sure you didn't knock it up in Paint?
No, what you have a problem with is reading the OP to see that nothing is being "pre scripted" anymore. Jesus, how hard is it to read then understand what you've read?
This is going to come in handy for the next year.
Makes sense.
If it's 50GB or less I'll still get it digital. US PSN has preload now too, right?
Maninthemirror
Banned
You are forgetting a key difference or ignoring what has been stated a dozen times over
Every uc game has had their reveal which runs on a render farm of 4-8 ps3s while they have explicitly stated this one is running on a single ps4.
What does this mean?
That for previous uc games they had to try to get the performance of what they showed on 4 to 8 ps3's on a single console while in this case they are already getting this to run one 1 console a year before release .....
Which game do you think will end up matching the reveal... Think about it.. Really hard
Well it has to be less than 50 because that is the max a blu ray can have.
Fancy Clown
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Yeah, this is what I can't wrap my head around. Will this honestly look like Uncharted 1 does compared to something that comes out 3 or 4 years down the line? It's almost hard to imagine a game looking substantially better even being possible on the same hardware.
DemonCleaner
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well fuck me.
naughty gods indeed.
naughty gods indeed.
I'm an idiot then, just ignore me please, I don't know what I'm talking about.
I should be sleeping, it's late.
Good night.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
So we finally achieved CG quality
HYPE
HYPE
Beerman462
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It's a low res pic no doubt, but if you go in game you can see how terrible the vehicles look. No window transparencies and the huge textures applied to the side of the vehicles just look bad. Mostly the game looks fantastic and that's why these things stick out to me.
There's almost no point trying to reason with people that either
A. Don't read the OP
B. Don't understand what they're reading
C. Are armed with nothing more than an agenda and blinders
D. All of the above
fallen_dawn
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Yes. I still don't know how they are going to fit all the DLC on TLOU HD. The PS3 version by itself almost takes up the entire disk.
EmptySpace
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yep, i think this is the reason as well.
videos in uncharted 3 took up 11 gbs of disc space.
also, the order 1886 does not have prerendered cutscenes as well and all are real-time. the dev told machinima their engine doesn't even support video playback at all. just wow.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
What does it prove exactly? That the PS3 couldn't do what the PS4 can clearly do?
Beerman462
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Good. I like real time cut-scenes. Going back to play older games that have been up-ressed with the original low res pre-rendered cut-scenes is terrible.
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Its been stated time and time again, confirmed by more than one Naughty Dog dev.
At this point its just blatant shit posting.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I agree, Ryse characters look much better.
Good game too
Having hair already makes it better than our bald friend.
Does he look a bit more like Nolan North now?
I feel like North could be a young Sully.
holy crap. thats a good idea.
EmptySpace
Banned
i thought uc3 trailer was on a devkit ps3.
'cause nd was playing uc3 at 60 fps with a devkit ps3, i remember. it looked smooth.
too bad the retail ps3s have half the memory, so we didn't get 60 fps uc3.
BigSoftieFF
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Man I remember playing Super Ghouls and Ghosts on my SNES and thinking as a kid it wouldn't get any better. This is just insane!!
Beerman462
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It proves that you can't look at a selective cut scene like the Last of Us: Remastered and expect the whole game to look incredible, any more than you can look at a <2 min UC4 trailer and expect the whole game to look incredible.
Wishmaster92
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if the uncharted/tlou cutscenes which were 7020p/30fps took a shit-ton of space from the blu-ray disk, imagine when the cutscenes are 1080p/60fps. The quality would have to be comparable to youtube or else it won't fit the 50gb disk.
vpance
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It's better in many ways:
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Yep, but they ignore that and plod on, relying on "comparisons" that are just as shit now as they were three years ago.
Kssio_Aug
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Man, I think youre a little angry for nothing. If you dont feel you should answer, all you had to do, is not to answer!
Anyway, I know they stated that on U3 the reveal scenes were rendered with 4~8 PS3s, I read that on the last pages. All I want to know is if they, on the reveal time of Uncharted 3, said at least once that the game would look like that or something like it.
I dont know when exactly they said that it was pre rendered with 4~8 PS3, but I guess it was after the release, or a time after its 1st reveal. So I just want to understand what they stated at U3 1st reveal.
Im not starting a war here, in another forum I just said that I give ND all the benefit of doubt because from my experience they ever delivered what they promised. So Im not really sayinh they wont deliver that, I just wanted to know their public responses on the very 1st reveal.
Since youre judging me all wrong and misinterpreted what I wanted to say, I guess your statement kind of apply to yourself, specially your "B" option.
After all, I dont know why its a big problem to be a little skeptical after seing what is possibly the most incredible game ever made visually speaking, since this is far away from anything I have seen to date (and I have Ryse and InFamous SS right here). Its not only about Drake's face detail, its about every single detail on his model and all the environment.
TetraGenesis
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The strawmen and agendas in this thread, jeez.
the doubters are making this more delicious.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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