IMACOMPUTA
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Do you really think ND would commit suicide like that? If ND doesn't deliver on these visuals they will face a shit storm with the strength of 10,000 Watch_Dogs meltdowns.
Uncharted 4 Trailer runs in-engine, in-game, in realtime on a single PS4 at 1080p60
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Do you really think ND would commit suicide like that? If ND doesn't deliver on these visuals they will face a shit storm with the strength of 10,000 Watch_Dogs meltdowns.
Schweinehund
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I'll be surprised if this level of detail is going to be present in game play sections and maintain 60 FPS. It will look like this in cut scenes for sure.
It won't
ethomaz
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It didn't look like that in the game... where you got this pic? I even started the game to see if it is like that.Example A:
The back of the bus is one huge flat polygon with a terrible texture as is the side of the bus minus the wheel wells. 90% of the time it doesn't matter, but in areas where there are a lot of vehicles it's ugly as hell and very distracting how bad the vehicles look.
So they purposely made it look like shit? Also regardless of reasons the fact is that the E3 trailer looked worse than the actual game. No need for other examples. The fact is you can't fully trust tightly focused game trailers to represent a final product. Also what's my agenda exactly ?
DemonCleaner
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it's not just the character model. look at those environments:
this freaking tree has more polys than the whole island in TR. how can that be?
this freaking tree has more polys than the whole island in TR. how can that be?
GribbleGrunger
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Does anybody in their right mind expect a character in the foreground to have the same poly count as a character's face up close? It will obviously increase or decrease depending on how close the camera is, rather like your eyes work in real life.
That IS how this game will look.
Beerman462
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The internet? Like I said before the pic is low res and terrible, but it doesn't change the fact that the back of the bus is one huge flat polygon, with a not so great texture attached.
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No they won't. They're Naughty Dog, not Ubisoft. The only place that these types of graphical meltdowns happen is here, and people here love Naughty Dog. Plenty of excuses will be made.
flipswitch
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Infamous SS and GOW3 had no LOD on characters.
(The main character)
(The main character)
Schweinehund
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Pretty much, not a whole lot of backlash on downgraded AI from E3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF0EaH73ee4
RiccochetJ
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I would have been extremely impressed if the camera was controller operated and they did a 360 pan.
All I saw was an in engine cut scene where ND had complete control of what you see and what had to be shown.
That being said, I believe in ND.
Beerman462
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I honestly don't know what you're arguing against anymore. All I'm saying is that the PS4 isn't some miracle machine. Naughty Dog is great at creating great graphics, but in the past there have been sacrifices to make outstanding character models at the expense of other assets.
Kssio_Aug
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it's not just the character model. look at those environments:
this freaking tree has more polys than the whole island in TR. how can that be?
Exactly, thats why people is being so skeptical even after those statements. I guess we will only have a proof after its 1st gameplay reveal.
I would say that, just like U3, the pre-rendered scene would look more detailed, but when ingame some details (like Drake's face) would not be that detailed but still looks like the cutscene because of the camera distance, what is amazing anyway and worked like a charm. But I just remembered that theres also that thing that theyre not using pre rendered cutscenes anymore. So that make things even more impressive!
Phoenician_Viking
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flipswitch
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They should add in a "zoom" function in the cutscenes (like in the MGS games) to prove it's realtime when the game releases.
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Hahaha, as if that stops non-fans from blowing up the forum for something as trivial as a slight downgrade.
Watch Dogs was a multiplatform game, people might be neutral to it. But Uncharted is first party, many people from all sides will be partial, and those against will love to make a backlash out of this. Don't kid yourself.
People did complain, others felt that the AI was just the same, with exceptions. The thing is that AI experiences are subjective, graphics are not.
Keihart
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it's not just the character model. look at those environments:
this freaking tree has more polys than the whole island in TR. how can that be?
I wonder if contextual animations will be another step above again, watching Nate touching that plant and moving it in that gif looks cool. I hope they improve a lot in those details, they really make a difference in third person games. I was kinda bummed that Snake no longer walks differently over bodies in MGSV:GZ
Dead Man Typing
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Yep, plus alternate costumes. I love seeing alternate costumes in real time cut scenes.
I love Naughty Dog. TLOU was my favorite game last year and I have finished it 3 times. I plan on buying a PS4 and TLOU re-mastered, but they cut corners.
Example A:
The back of the bus is one huge flat polygon with a terrible texture as is the side of the bus minus the wheel wells. 90% of the time it doesn't matter, but in areas where there are a lot of vehicles it's ugly as hell and very distracting how bad the vehicles look.
So they purposely made it look like shit? Also regardless of reasons the fact is that the E3 trailer looked worse than the actual game. No need for other examples. The fact is you can't fully trust tightly focused game trailers to represent a final product. Also what's my agenda exactly ?
Lol... "cutting corners". If it fits your agenda it's cutting corners, but it's called optimization.
Cutting corners makes it imply that they're cheating or being lazy...
RunningRiot
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The most incredible thing to me is when he lifts his face off the ground and out of the water, water droplets drip off of his nose. Dat detail.
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Jesus christ, are other developers even trying?
Seriously, if these consoles can put out something of this quality then what the hell are other first party developers doing?
Seriously, if these consoles can put out something of this quality then what the hell are other first party developers doing?
nate looks a lot like a certain federal marshall in your avatar. Just noticed that.
viveks86
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Later Alligator
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perhaps its you that should pay attention to that link
what theyve shown IS completely pre-scripted. its a scripted event within the game engine
it is not however, pre-rendered... it is rendered in real time rather then a pre-recorded video being played back before cutting back over to the gameplay
WonderCheese
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Yep.
Beerman462
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You can call it what you want, but the low poly/low quality texture vehicles stand out in stark contrast to the high quality character models. Vehicles aren't the only thing neglected to focus on character models either. What's my agenda again?
Phoenician_Viking
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I have to say i thought the title was a changed from something by a mod in a sarcastic manner.
For all you fucking doubters and people saying this was KZ:2 all over again hope you eat a health amount of fucking fried crow. I told people in the other thread ND codes to the fucking metal. They are one of the few devs that understand the hardware and can harness it fully.
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it's not just the character model. look at those environments:
this freaking tree has more polys than the whole island in TR. how can that be?
is anyone else mentally slapping a hud on top of this and grinning?
hydragonwarrior
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Phenomenal (altho the animation felt very Uncharted 3 at times). Still, I want to see if that's kept up in game. Can't wait for a demo!
lowrider007
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There is noway on this planet Uncharted 4's actual gameplay will have that level of detail, people reeeeeally need to temper their expectations, I'm already walking into other threads with this trailer being used as a trophy for PS4 gfx before we've even seen any actual gameplay.
he's simply saying that using a tiny bit of logic, do you think ND are rendering the entire face at the same LOD when zoomed out like he is when walking into the forest? of course not .. why would you waste polys on an eye lash no one could see even with a 4k TV
if you pause and zoomed in, sure, you'd see it .. but then the jungle would be out of view wouldn't it.
these GFX threads are straight up stupid. the game is going to look awesome .. we have a proven track record right back to the orig uncharted demo when PS3 launched.
plasmawave
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After seeing gameplay of The Order, I don't doubt U4's graphics. What I doubt is 60fps.
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Oh, man... you're really barking up the wrong tree there. Quantic Dream's games beat their tech demos graphically every time.
It was called The Dark Sorcerer, btw.
I'll probably get some heat for this but I don't think 60 fps is absolutely essential for a game like this. I care more about the visuals and the scope of this game. Although of course I don't have any technical knowledge, no compromise may be necessary.
Well, if there's any studio that could actually pull this off, it would definitely be ND. Still, it seems like we're getting maybe just the tiniest bit ahead of ourselves given that we haven't seen even a snippet of actual gameplay footage yet.
But heck, I'm a PC guy who doesn't particularly care for cinematic third person action adventure games, and I'll nonetheless be picking up a PS4 for TLOU and UC4 just for the sheer spectacle.
But heck, I'm a PC guy who doesn't particularly care for cinematic third person action adventure games, and I'll nonetheless be picking up a PS4 for TLOU and UC4 just for the sheer spectacle.
I was generalizing, hence use of the word "they." I also saw that you qualified your statement toward the end, which is another reason I didn't even mention your name. So yeah, seems like "B" applies to you, not me. Nice try with the persecution complex though.
Beerman462
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Perhaps it's you that should pay attention to the conversation.
"Game will he pimp, but the game will look nothingreat close to that except for on pre scripted cinematic scenes and I have no problem with that. Ryse had some sweet scenes like this, but this looks way way way better. Can't wait to play it"
The implication is that is what not rendered in real time, which is why I used quotes.
Kssio_Aug
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Oooh... of course! You just used "they" to a quote aimed for me, and was actually talking about someone else. Yeah, my mistake!
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It doenst matter though. All I want now is some U4 gameplay! Sadly it will take a little longer! =(
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