Jill Sandwich
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I switched to Spotify and havent touched iTunes in about 2 years now.
First iPhone 6/6 Plus Reviews
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I switched to Spotify and havent touched iTunes in about 2 years now.
Kill Your Masters
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You make it sound like its a bad thing that a product is sold at a reasonable price.
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60 grams more than the 5S (172 vs. 112), almost a 50% increase.
The megapixels comparison is actually a pretty strong one here. While camera manufacturers were pursing higher MP counts for marketing reasons, the consumers ended up suffering ultimately because the increased pixel density of the sensors began to degrade their low light performance. I feel like we're on the verge of something similar happening with phones, where the nonstop pursuit of higher pixel densities will do nothing but harm battery life and performance without necessarily improving the actual user experience any.
This has happened time and time again and I can't help but shake my head at everyone in the iPhone 6 reveal thread laughing at the "low" resolution of 1920x1080p for the new iPhone. It really speaks to the power of marketing that so many people are chasing this increasingly useless spec to oblivion.
I didn't want a phablet but true 1080p AND a bigger battery?
It would basically do the job of both iphone and iPad mini for me.
With that said I will wait and find out how the 6's chassis design fares. As much as I like my 5 and am sticking with it for another year, of all the iphone models it has the worst build. And I owned both the 3G and 4 as well previously.
I am on my second 5 (the warranty replacement one, since after the first year my launch 5 became super wonky).
Dropping chamberfied edges is a step in the right direction.
But mainly battery life, 128gb and 1080p are my biggest needs. The larger screen is something I'll need to decide in person.
And that review pretty much extends most of my sentiments.
It would basically do the job of both iphone and iPad mini for me.
With that said I will wait and find out how the 6's chassis design fares. As much as I like my 5 and am sticking with it for another year, of all the iphone models it has the worst build. And I owned both the 3G and 4 as well previously.
I am on my second 5 (the warranty replacement one, since after the first year my launch 5 became super wonky).
Dropping chamberfied edges is a step in the right direction.
But mainly battery life, 128gb and 1080p are my biggest needs. The larger screen is something I'll need to decide in person.
And that review pretty much extends most of my sentiments.
Nastrodamous
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i would get the 6 just because I want a smaller phone, also for me the 6 plus doesn't offer anything more than the 6, since it doesn't do as much as the note.
Nope, it's great for consumers but it's bad for the OEMs and will eventually be bad for the entire hardware ecosystem. Companies are in this for profit after all and without strong profits then R&D suffers which leads to the devices themselves suffering over time.
I'm just making an observation, that's all. Phones are headed down the same path as PC's. Android OEM's fighting for scraps with low margin hardware and Apple owning a small segment of the market but making most of the profits with high margin products.
Jill Sandwich
the turds of Optimus Prime
I love how this review thread has one abridged review followed by people bashing thier dicks together ad infinitum.
Pretty much every other review thread on Neogaf though tbh.
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Aye, if you want battery life you need either a big phone with a big battery, or the Z3 Compact. Nothing else really cuts it with the increasing specs.
This. It's hilarious seeing the Android diehards toting specs on paper as an advantage. I've yet to find an Android phone that performs anywhere near as well as a new competing iPhone. iOS is incredibly well-optimized.
The battery tests should be interesting. iPhones could always get away with smaller batteries due to their smaller screen sizes and apple's software/hardware integration. Now we finally have a pound for pound comparison in screen sizes, battery sizes and battery life when compared to android flagships. Anandtech's review should be filled with little nuggets about how the A8 and iOS are intertwined.
Anecdotal evidence ftw.
I'm not big into smart phones, but it is extremely common to compare different products in the same product category. Especially common with car reviews, ie Camaros vs. Mustangs.
jts
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Benchmarks also, which are a fine way of comparing performance when you have different arquitectures and chip designs... at least beats the hell out of comparing the clock speed number or counting the number of cores.
Or just go to Anandtech to see lots of actual benchmarks to see how new iPhones always perform very, very well compared to the competition. They lose out on performance by the end of the 12 month cycle with the latest Android flagships that get launched in the interim but iPhones arent poor performers in any sense.
(iphone 4 on iOS 7 excepted
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Cars are not a valid analogy.
The software platform is different. This matters to people who are shopping for flagship devices in smartphone category.
That definitely is not the case in my experience.
It certainly isn't as large a gap as it once was in the days of the OG Droid, but it's still there from my experience with recent high-end Android devices. Individual tolerance levels will dictate how much it bothers you, though.
Fanboys on both sides annoying, especially when one acts like they know what their talking about. My HTC One M7 never lagged. That thing was beastly. Also, Android Kit Kat on the Moto G runs on only 1 GB of ram and doesn't benchmark even as close to the iPhone, yet it runs pretty smoothly. iOS is incredibly well-optimized, I agree. But that doesn't mean that Kit Kat isn't at all.. I don't think that people in general have a good knowledge on what would cause lag on high end devices (hint: it's the carriers bloated android skin - see Touchwiz). It's not enough to just toss generalizations around like nothing has changed since 2010.
jts
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I agree.
I disagree. I can see a difference and it's not pleasing.
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6pm is my understanding. I was hoping that was EST, but it's pretty clear to me now that it must be PST.
For everyone saying that comparing specifications make no sense, let us remember that iPhones are amongst the most expensive phones on the market (not including luxury phones), and what you get in silicon is about what you would get on a mid-range Android phone (camera excluded) that costs half the price or less. Now, you can say that because of software integration/optimization iPhones are still faster and real world performance is what matters, but try to think how much better it could be if it had specifications comparable to the Android flagships. Imagine that for the same price the 5.5 inches screen of the iPhone 6 Plus were a 5.7 inches running at 2560 x 1440 resolution with 515ppi (while still being smaller in size), imagine if it had a even faster processor, and bigger battery. Imagine having 3GB of RAM. And imagine that you wouldn't have to pay more for it. Imagine the iPhone 6/6 Plus had the same specifications of the Note 4. Well, if you were paying for Note 4 specifications you would still be paying £69 cheaper than you would for the cheapest 6 plus, which you could add to the bill to get better build quality if you may.
And this is not to mention the abusive price of the memory upgrades. Charging and extra US$100 (or £80) to go from 16GB to 64GB when you can buy 64GB flash memory for 1/4 of that price is, to put it bluntly, ridiculous.
But then again, (most) people don't care, seeing as Apple broke another record with pre-orders. Power to them, I suppose. Making more money while spending less is absolutely what every company strives for. But doesn't mean comparing specs is useless.
And this is not to mention the abusive price of the memory upgrades. Charging and extra US$100 (or £80) to go from 16GB to 64GB when you can buy 64GB flash memory for 1/4 of that price is, to put it bluntly, ridiculous.
But then again, (most) people don't care, seeing as Apple broke another record with pre-orders. Power to them, I suppose. Making more money while spending less is absolutely what every company strives for. But doesn't mean comparing specs is useless.
When is that?
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You seem to think none of that would come at any kind of cost to the design and build of the phone.
Why wouldn't we? Unless this is a cry for Apple to drive down their margins that have kept them doing so well for so long.
Imagine the iPhone 6/6 Plus had the same specifications of the Note 4. Well, if you were paying for Note 4 specifications you would still be paying £69 cheaper than you would for the cheapest 6 plus, which you could add to the bill to get better build quality if you may.
Now this is a fair point. 16GB is just insulting for what they are charging.
Outside of hypothetical arguments, it kind of is, though.
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So i want the Plus because i like the weight of my 4S and hate how light the 5 and 5s is. How am I supposed to carry this in my pocket?
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Go for the 6? It's only 11 grams lighter than the 4S.
Fanny pack.
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I need something that is practical and doubles as a purse i mean wallet.
Well, in case you are not aware, those are the specifications of the Note 4, which is £69 cheaper than the 6 Plus. So I imagine that if Samsung can design a phone with those specs (while also including a Stylus, and a micro SD card slot, let us not forget) Apple would also be able to. And then, as I said, you can use the spare £69 to increase the build quality. It would probably not cost that much, anyway.
jts
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Your pants are not custom tailored? Guess they let anyone own an iPhone these days...
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I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's really not that simple considering the materials used are not the same.
NinjaBoyLao
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I have a oneplus for a week now(and i've heard 6+ is bigger), and I'm having trouble fitting it on my pocket.
These big phones are really uncomfortable when going on a date or any night out. I'm now considering buying a belt clip caase even though belt clips looks silly. Now i wish i can find a slightly less silly looking one.
"Some people say that comparing specs misses the point, but seriously guys let's compare specs."
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
yeah I mean move the actual music files to the phone's internal memory :/
My data plan is awful, so I can't do cloud or streaming @ work
Rodney McKay
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I got the Note 2 (5.5in screen) about 2 years ago at this point.
It was an adjustment to fit it in my pockets compared to my iPhone 5 (that it was replacing because I found I couldn't use a phone screen that small). It is pretty bulky, but you get used to it relatively quickly.
There's only one pair of pants I have where it ever sticks out at all, and right after I got the phone it did slip out of one of my smaller coat's pockets.
How did the UHD res for the LG G3 work out? Hasn't there been overheating issues associated with that? You can levy some criticism against the iPhones, but for every spec increase there is a downside.
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so coat pocket, but in the summer time i'm fucked
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I'm really, curious to see what Android-affiliated OEMs do to differentiate their hardware now that Apple's ventured into the bigger-screen arena. This whole "we were there first" thing, true as it is, won't do a single thing to tip the scales of sales regarding what's available *now*.
I think the smartest thing would be for them to focus on stellar battery life, personally. I think it's been shown that, iPad 3 aside, Apple would rather compromise on battery life than on thinness. They're even now on screen size and they'll always lose on design (and, likely, on display quality and camera quality outside of the most elementary resolution/megapixel stuff).
I think the smartest thing would be for them to focus on stellar battery life, personally. I think it's been shown that, iPad 3 aside, Apple would rather compromise on battery life than on thinness. They're even now on screen size and they'll always lose on design (and, likely, on display quality and camera quality outside of the most elementary resolution/megapixel stuff).
Sony's already going for battery life above all else with the Z3 at least. Not sure how they were using the phone exactly but it is rather impressive.
Distresssss
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Samsung Alpha? Sony Z3 Compact?
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