Destiny |OT6| Lock me like one of your French girls, Jack
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ColonelSkills
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what's wrong with hdmi?
Learn to take a joke, bud.
But seriously, that's the best advice I can give. You said yourself that the people in your group aren't very good.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
It's pretty much get better or watch a bunch of walkthroughs to find a better strategy. What part are you getting hung up on?
If you're 24 or up and on PS4, I have one other with me to do that and Queen's Wrath.
Night Angel
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The 27s are probably dragging you down because they have lower dps. The raid is definitely doable with some 27s, but having a majority if then may have nerfed your damage enough to make the difference. If they are dying often, they are REALLY dragging you down. If you notice specific players making the same mistakes again and again or just generally being a drain on the group, you might want to consider getting a replacement or asking them to upgrade their gear.
If they are IRL friends and you don't want to abandon them, help them learn the mechanics and gear them up. Drag them to daily public events, level 28 daily story missions, nightfall strikes, etc until they are 28. At least at that point they will do full damage/take normal damage to/from mobs. The last boss is easy once everyone knows their job, so take some time to coach them in their individual roles. Have your party split to where no group of 3 is entirely made up of 27s. Do the raid the same way every time to make sure people who are good at a task are doing that task.
Yea
... I tried to solo the Mars strike, but when I got to the Goliath part and got one shot I just stopped lolThanks, but I'm just at 22. Gonna call it a night anyway.
CrackaF3tt
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I have gotten 2 leg engrams since patch. Both turned into energy. I have had more blues since patch turn into actual legendary gear lol.
I've never understood why this was the case. I hope they patch it so it allows both marks.
Would be awesome if you could say spend 30 crucible marks and 35 vanguard marks to buy a 65 mark item. I'm probably dreaming though...
The fight with Atheon. The problem is the others die.
Feels like the drop rate for Legendaries was decreased as was the chance of getting actual gear.
So while the patch did normalize the engram quality = item quality, it still feels kinda shitty.
Die where? In the portals? Outside with the Supplicants? Just killed by Atheon and his massive splash damage?
To be fair he has a point, level and weapons will only go so far, the rest is skill, experience and teamwork.
skill tree setups that compliment both the situation and pairing also help tremendously.
And ammo synths, lots of ammo synths.
Slammin_Hammon
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On the outside or inside the portals?
djblackice
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I've got 10 Queen's Wrath orders burning a hole in my pocket. Anyone want to join up?
Level 27 Hunter PS4
PSN - djblackice
Level 27 Hunter PS4
PSN - djblackice
vakarian32
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I got the Shadow Price from a Crucible drop, but the New Monarchy Vanquisher rifle looks better imo, I'm saving up for it now actually. It has nearly the same stats but better stability and damage when upgraded.
everyday math
Banned
Bad Seed Down is a pretty good pulse rifle.
I find the sunbreaker to be more useful tbh, don't know what to do with it since you can't put two armor exotics lol
Unfortunately it is still a Pulse Rifle.
Super Pox VLO isn't bad either, for PvE. Tried it in PvP and I got destroyed.
everyday math
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i always end up going back to my handcannon after using pulse rifles.
then they need to get on your level (joke fully intended), unless youve got a good team level 27 wont cut it. My suggestions are generally as follows.
* EVERYONE must both have and use a mic, effectively, communicating their situation, position and requirements accurately without uh's and erms.
* Everyone should be aware of their groupings for the different phases and stick to them
* A contingency plan must at least be roughed over for situations where someone is downed, normally it's just "half progress till we can res" but on the last fight it can mean the difference between beating the boss and wiping.
* Walk through portals one at a time, decide in advance which side of the portal the portal team will be going through each time to make cleansing for the relic holder easier.
* Use the relatively safe time in the center bubble to use ammo synths (portal team)
* When moving back in preperation for being warped, portal team can pick off some harpies to make survival for outside team a little easier
* Keep your cool, it can get frustrating when the same people die over and over at the same point but rather than raging, take a step back and evaluate the weakest players and see if you can shuffle the team to give them an easier position.
* No blind jumping, nothing screws up the raid quite like a random team member falling to his/her death trying to jump around without watching where theyre going to land.
same for me, I also despise the PVP
Exactly my thoughts that would be the best way.
Next match someone else gets a purple, everyone else gets coins and blues and I get nothing. LOL.
hillsighed
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I've been using Red Death pulse off and on for awhile in PvP and it does real well on certain maps. First Light, Rusted Lands and that Venus map.
Any other map though and it just can't compete. PvP is overun with SUROS Regimes right now and that gun shreds everything.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
This is a consequence of one of the poor (and bizarre) design decisions behind this game. It's like Bungie didn't know whether or not to commit to a social game or a game designed to be local (where it's the player and the players' friends at best). The number of people allowed in a fire team and no easy access to chat is other consequences of this decision.
It's even hard to play with my friends sometimes, just because of the extremely limited fire team party size (if there is more than 3 people on, then we either have to split up into smaller groups while sharing the party feature so we can all still talk or others are left out or we are forced to do Crucible).
Slammin_Hammon
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You definitely need to go in the portal then. Idk if you are already but have all 3 on the outside go to the portal you need to open. Have them do their best to stay back from the supplicants and maybe have them try getting them to explode but jumping away in time so you don't die. Also hunter golden gun works good on the supplicants
What level weekly you doin?
Ivory Samoan
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It dumbfounds me, the lack of matchmaking in weeklies.
WAR recon zero
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Finally level 20 lol (ps3)
Yeah been trying a variation of that.
Next question. When the week resets on Tuesday, will it reset my Raid progress? I have check point at Atheon
Ahh congrats! Too bad my connection sucked today.
Admiral Woofington
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the biggest issue of loving hand cannons is that the only armor with handcannon upgrades is the one with strength. Like the fuck.
Storm Raider
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>Raid
>Get to Atheon
>Do 1 portal
>everyone have 300 damage Gjallahorn
>???
>profit
Would this actually take him down in 1 portal?
>Get to Atheon
>Do 1 portal
>everyone have 300 damage Gjallahorn
>???
>profit
Would this actually take him down in 1 portal?
Yes it will.
Me too. Finally.
Thanks. I may have to recruit some Gafers to help out tomorrow. At least im near the end.
Of course, it should go without saying that when a reset occurs all loot tables and progress is cleared.
Enemies in the Hard Mode raid max out at 30 correct?
CrackaF3tt
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Lol I can take down a portal by myself with Gjallahorn. I have been going into one solo and getting the relic.
Storm Raider
Banned
I did the same thing too.
Slammin_Hammon
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Yeah progress is reset each week.
colonelwheel
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As a level 23, what's my best bet for legendary gear? Besides buying it. Currently working on that.
I knew it would be that map before I clicked. B gets so crazy hectic on that one. Nice job!
queen's missions will get you a legendary head and chest piece
DrDrizzay101
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Queen's missions for head and chest, although she is going away soon.
Otherwise there is no good bet besides buying them and leveling up your faction rep. Drops can happen in Crucible, weekly strikes, daily mission, strike playlist, enemy drop, etc. But none of these are sure bets.
Side note: I hate the Queen's missions so much. I've done 20 of them and gotten all helmets and chests. I just want a decent arc sniper. They bungled this event so badly you just have to laugh.
colonelwheel
Neo Member
Awesome. Thanks guys.
That video posted up a bit has the general idea of positioning for the outside team. It should help keep them alive if they follow the same basic directions. With enough repetition even more casual players should get the hang of it.
Last Atheon run I did was like that.
Everyone died.
Death? I'm a SunSinger.
No Time's Vengeance? I have a Gjallarhorn.
He was down to a sliver so losing there would have been heartbreaking.
And that's why even as a Relic Carrier you always load your Gjallarhorn.
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