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[Michanical]

While this is great for people who might have skipped the Wii to be able to play some of these great games. I find it hypocritical that a lot of people on GAF, will call out Sony, Microsoft and what not for re-releasing old games or remaster's on PS4, PS3, XB360, XBONE.

And yet are praising Nintendo in this thread for doing exactly that, and their not even HD remaster's, so I would hope a cheap price would be attached to these titles.

As some people can find the hard copies second hand or Nintendo classics that they sell for 19.99 and just pop them into the Wii U and play it.

I guess Nintendo fan's have double standard's on NEOGAF.

NEOGAF GOING TO NEOGAF.

This is very different:
Think about what people are complaining about when they say they are sick of remasters:
1) The price of remasters is often close to the cost of a full retail game.
2) Remasters hypothetically take resources away from normal development.
3) They are often used as filler due to a lack for first party titles.

In this case:
1) These ports are exceptionally priced.
2) These require very little development time since it is just booting the Wii hardware to play it.
3) Nintendo is doing fine on releasing first party titles.

The main reason for this is that Nintendo wants to collect on the long tail their games have. Ninendo games stay fresh for years and years after release and age very well. Think about it: Xenoblade, Kirby, and Metroid Prime are hard to find used and sell for nearly full retail price. New copies are even more expensive. This curves the high cost of those games, gives Nintendo money instead of scalpers, and required next to no development from Nintendo.

Since N64 and GC games run in Wii mode, I’m excited at the prospect of having these games come to the eShop for Wii U.

 

[Scipio]

So you can now play all games with Classic (e.g. Xenoblade) support with the Wii U pad or am I wrong?

 

[Madao]

I don't really as other older threads for the remaster DMC, Zone of Ender's, Ico/Shadow of colossus, Sleeping dogs(would have to agree that it didn't need to be ported), all have people in them saying shit against Sony and Microsoft for releaseing them. Granted most people in the thread are excited that they were getting ports to begin with.

But these Wii titles were already playable if you had the Hard Copies of them.

It's like there's double standard for anything Nintendo, and the other thread that became a shitstorm because of these type of double standard's, was about new IP's and Nintendo.



NO, these are fucking Wii games not games from the Gamecube era, maybe first Prime game. But MARIO Galaxy, Punchout and SIn and Punishment were from last generation not the one before it.

They are games that could have a HD remaster, but Nintendo just wants to put them out as to have them available, even though if you have a hard copy your playing the same thing.

the price reflects what they are.

if they made them HD remasters, they'd be $50 (forgot TWW HD already?)

 

[Zarovitch]

Will you be able to play MPT with the gamepad?

Yes, but you still need the Wiimote nunchuck, cause Metroid Trilogy don't support the Wii pro controller.

 

[Tregard]

Yes, but you still need the Wiimote nunchuck, cause Metroid Trilogy don't support the Wii pro controller.

Damn, that sucks.

Eh, can complain for £9

 

[MrPanic]

Good deals. Kinda sad they didn't throw the resolution up as I would rebuy all of these games if that was the case, still got all of them on disc so nothing for me atm.

 

[Bizzquik]

Video of Mario Galaxy being played on the gamepad

Holy crap. I was excited there for a second.

Then watched the video and saw that "being played on the gamepad" was just the second-screen functionality of it.
That's ridiculous. The Wiimote and Nunchuk are far bigger than the (comparatively) itty-bitty Wii U Gamepad screen!

 

[DooD1234]

Yes, but you still need the Wiimote nunchuck, cause Metroid Trilogy don't support the Wii pro controller.

What about mario galaxy 2? Off tv play with the game pad might be worth it to pay again even if I have a hard copy.

 

[dragonzdogma]

I would love to see video comparison of dl SMG2 and the disc version,
is it to early to ask for this?

 

[Oemenia]

Nintendo selling their old games at a fair price, damn!

On the other hand there goes the chance of seeing HD releases.

 

[Zarovitch]

What about mario galaxy 2? Off tv play with the game pad might be worth it to pay again even if I have a hard copy.

Look at Bizzquik just above your post.

 

[Papacheeks]

This makes no sense. We call out Sony and MS for getting rid of BC and then forcing you to pay for their downloadable version. Nintendo hasn't taken that option away, but is allowing us to grab them another way, especially since some like Punchout and The Metroid Prime Trilogy are still fucking expensive on top of being rare to get. Getting them for $9.99/each is a literal blessing as I almost pulled the trigger on a $55 used copy last week.

I would love to see the number's for the amount of people who actually used their Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 for backwards compatability after a year or 2 after release of the system.

It's a great feature that Nintendo has kept for backwards compatability, but in all honesty, these games to me deserve HD remaster's.

And I see people on other Nintendo thread's being outright unreasonable on their outlook on what other companies are doing.

People are acting like this is such an amazing thing, when in fact it's not. I would rather pay 29.99 for a HD remaster of Super Mario galaxy. Look at what they charged for Wind waker and everyone loved it.

And i would agree it was worth it for people fan's of zelda' who miss wind waker, or never got a chance to play it.

 

[protomouse]

Metroid Prime Trilogy! I've been wanting to get this, but the Wii edition is insanely expensive.

 

[DooD1234]

Look at Bizzquik just above your post.

Ya just noticed as soon as I finished posting this. Kind of disappointed but I will get punch out as I missed that game.

 

[ghibli99]

EarthBound's release on the Wii U VC was such a relief... I was so glad that I was finally able to buy it AND have my money go to Nintendo without having to spend hundreds on eBay for a used, physical copy.

Although I still prefer physical for most things, releasing harder-to-find or more expensive games like Metroid Prime Trilogy this way is such a great thing.

 

[Joey Ravn]

I would love to see video comparison of dl SMG2 and the disc version,
is it to early to ask for this?

I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same. As far as we can tell, Nintendo did nothing to the eShop release of MGS2 (or potentially to any other game for that matter). The only difference is that it boots straight to the game, without having to jump to the vWii menu first.

Is MPT compatable with the Classic Controller?

No. It's been said numerous times already (even in this page!): none of the three games with announced release dates are compatible with the CCP. Only Pandora's Tower and Sin & Punishment are (plus a Japan-exclusive game), but those don't have a release date set.

 

[cacildo]

Nintendo selling their old games at a fair price, damn!

On the other hand there goes the chance of seeing HD releases.

This is like....

...like a horror movie, when the monster understand how to open a door or something....

.... and the surivors say "Its LEARNING! ITS LEARNING FROM US"

 

[KevinG]

Is MPT compatable with the Classic Controller?

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

I just played the intro and first level of Mario Galaxy 2.

I have to say, Mario Galaxy 1 sets the tone waaaaaay better.

 

[Clairvoyance]

I don't really as other older threads for the remaster DMC, Zone of Ender's, Ico/Shadow of colossus, Sleeping dogs(would have to agree that it didn't need to be ported), all have people in them saying shit against Sony and Microsoft for releaseing them. Granted most people in the thread are excited that they were getting ports to begin with.

I love how none of those games except Ico/SotC are from Sony or Microsoft. But sure thing buddy, keep up the bullshit posts.

 

[Zarovitch]

Is MPT compatable with the Classic Controller?

no

 

[Jotamide]

Metroid Prime Trilogy and Sin & Punishment? Based Nintendo.

 

[vatstep]

The original post should be updated to indicate that if you already have the disc, there is essentially nothing new about these games (since none of them have CC Pro support anyway). It's exactly the same as playing from the disc with an added level of convenience (and a nice promo price).

So much confusion!

 

[Michanical]

I would love to see the number's for the amount of people who actually used their Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 for backwards compatability after a year or 2 after release of the system.

It's a great feature that Nintendo has kept for backwards compatability, but in all honesty, these games to me deserve HD remaster's.

And I see people on other Nintendo thread's being outright unreasonable on their outlook on what other companies are doing.

People are acting like this is such an amazing thing, when in fact it's not. I would rather pay 29.99 for a HD remaster of Super Mario galaxy. Look at what they charged for Wind waker and everyone loved it.

And i would agree it was worth it for people fan's of zelda' who miss wind waker, or never got a chance to play it.

It’s very unlikely they would sell for $29.99 if they got the same treatment WWHD did. That’s something to consider; there is a reason why the remasters are expensive and Metroid Prime Trilogy, one of the most critically acclaimed games of all times, is going to be $9.99.

 

[C.Olimar788]

This is pretty sweet, though all the games announced for the US so far I have already.

Crossing my fingers for a release of Xenoblade so I can get it here instead of the downported new 3DS version, but it probably won't happen.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

I just played the intro and first level of Mario Galaxy 2.

I have to say, Mario Galaxy 1 sets the tone waaaaaay better.

Yeah. Galaxy 2 plays better and has better level design, but, damn, all of the ancillary stuff is way better in Galaxy 1. Galaxy 1 was the first and only time that Mario was fucking cool.

 

[KojiKnight]

I would love to see the number's for the amount of people who actually used their Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 for backwards compatability after a year or 2 after release of the system.

It's a great feature that Nintendo has kept for backwards compatability, but in all honesty, these games to me deserve HD remaster's.

And I see people on other Nintendo thread's being outright unreasonable on their outlook on what other companies are doing.

People are acting like this is such an amazing thing, when in fact it's not. I would rather pay 29.99 for a HD remaster of Super Mario galaxy. Look at what they charged for Wind waker and everyone loved it.

And i would agree it was worth it for people fan's of zelda' who miss wind waker, or never got a chance to play it.

But you don't see the value at all of Nintendo re-releasing games akin to Sony's PS2 classics? Especially those that are very hard to find? As noted MPT is a very very costly game. There is a lot of value both to the customers and Nintendo to rerelease such games digitally.

 

[EulaCapra]

Nintendo doing 50% for first week sales for anything?

Has Bowser's Castle finally frozen over???

 

[Pociask]

This is EXCITE! for me. Really getting the urge to get a Wii U, bring over my Wii VC games, and be able to play NES-Wii U games all on the same system (Gamecube sorry )

 

[ugoo18]

Am i the only one who finds it weird that SMG2 is the first Wii VC title?

Especially when the other 2 titles are the first Retro Donkey Kong Country game and the entire Prime Trilogy.

Even if it isn't both SMG games i'd have expected the first SMG game to release before the second.

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Are these games eligible for Club Nintendo coins?

 

[vgamer1]

That said, if you own these games, you can do this all for free via homebrew!

Once the gamepad supported ones come out, you can't.

But it's super simple to set up.

 

[Eduardboon]

Some questions:

- Does SMG2 see your original wii mode savegames?

- Does the game still have black borders?

- Can you go to the vWii menu from inside SMG2?

 

[ghibli99]

I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same. As far as we can tell, Nintendo did nothing to the eShop release of MGS2 (or potentially to any other game for that matter). The only difference is that it boots straight to the game, without having to jump to the vWii menu first.

This makes it all worth it. I've never liked the extra step involved in running Wii games.

 

[kittens]

For folks who've downloaded SMG2: how's it look?

 

[Papacheeks]

the price reflects what they are.

if they made them HD remasters, they'd be $50 (forgot TWW HD already?)

ICO/SHADOW was sold as a 2 game set, and ran 39.99, HD reslolution, trophy support, all that jazz.
Same went for Zone of Ender's 39.99 for the pack.
Jack and Daxter I wan tot say was even cheaper, and so was Ratchet and Clank. HD reslolutions and trophy support.
Wind waker HD was completely redone from the ground up which is why is was 50-60 bucks.

The price for these games is not what I have an issue with, it's great people can get them for cheap. But people making a big deal about it, and treating it like it's some huge thing is just, I don't know, can't even fathom it.
Games work if you have hard copies, there just making them available on the store.
Would have been much bigger if Metroid Prime HD trilogy 39.99 redone, Punchout HD.

DMC for what you are getting is actual a great value for a lot of people who missed it because of bad press . Especially since the game still sat on steam for 49.99 and didn't come with any DLC or any of the enhancements DMC remaster has.
But people on there, along with other thread's about remaster's from Sony, Microsoft, always bring out the card of originality and new games instead of remaster's.
Yet we have Nintendo just bringing digital copies of SD Wii games, they are at what they should be for price and everyone react's like it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Which is why I hate the DOUBLE STANDARD Nintendo get's.
I look back now and feel a little bad as it seems I have shit up the thread with my outlook.
But after being in so many Nintendo thread's lately, it just was a jump off point of how unreasonable I find most Nintendo Poster's here on GAF.

 

[Scooter155]

Since N64 and GC games run in Wii mode, I’m excited at the prospect of having these games come to the eShop for Wii U.

THIS.

 

[stan423321]

That said, if you own these games, you can do this all for free via homebrew!

Once the gamepad supported ones come out, you can't.

But it's super simple to set up.

Elaborate on the 2nd paragraph please.

 

[jaydogg691]

Is this out on the US store?

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Is this out on the US store?

I downloaded Galaxy 2 about an hour ago.

 

[rjc571]

Elaborate on the 2nd paragraph please.

You can't use the Game Pad as a Wii/GC controller with homebrew, but you can do everything else.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

I downloaded Galaxy 2 about an hour ago.

How much is it?

 

[makingmusic476]

Man, I was hoping for more HD remakes with gameplay tweaks.

At least do SMS and TP HD, Nintendo. Plz. ;_;

 

[Papacheeks]

But you don't see the value at all of Nintendo re-releasing games akin to Sony's PS2 classics? Especially those that are very hard to find? As noted MPT is a very very costly game. There is a lot of value both to the customers and Nintendo to rerelease such games digitally.

But these are games that were not made during that generation, were talking about games only from couple years back like 2009,2010. The oldest is the Prime Trilogy.

They are more recent, and should get HD remakes like Wind Waker. These would benfit Nintendo more, as only hardcore people from GAF are actually the ones mostly buying from the ESTORE.

Budget HD remaster's of these games would help Nintendo out pad their 2015 year.

 

[electroshockwave]

I really feel this is such a no-brainer that they should have done it sooner.

 

[vgamer1]

Elaborate on the 2nd paragraph please.

You can currently play all of your Wii games backed up to an external hard drive via the vWii homebrew on the Wii U.

The Gamepad acts as the second screen, the sensor bar on the gamepad can be used, but the controls on the gamepad cannot.

So for any game that does not support the Classic Controller, such as Galaxy 2, will play exactly the same via homebrew and a ripped copy of the game as they do for $10($20) on the eShop. The gamepad supported games currently cannot be achieved through homebrew.

 

[Fbh]

Downloading SMG2

Found out Pcgamesupply has digital E-shop cards and sells them for the actual price (most other sites I know sell the $10 code for $12) and couldn't resist

I would love to see the number's for the amount of people who actually used their Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 for backwards compatability after a year or 2 after release of the system.

It's a great feature that Nintendo has kept for backwards compatability, but in all honesty, these games to me deserve HD remaster's.

And I see people on other Nintendo thread's being outright unreasonable on their outlook on what other companies are doing.

People are acting like this is such an amazing thing, when in fact it's not. I would rather pay 29.99 for a HD remaster of Super Mario galaxy. Look at what they charged for Wind waker and everyone loved it.

And i would agree it was worth it for people fan's of zelda' who miss wind waker, or never got a chance to play it.

Meh, I think this is great and I think the negativity on this thread is ridiculous.

People on Ps3 were super happy when games like Nocturne, Persona 3, Suikoden 2, Legend of Dragoon were released on PSN. And those are not even that rare/expensive. You can get Nocturne/Persona 3 for like $15.

And it was exactly the same as this. $9.99 (most of them) for a direct port. No new controller options, no Hd resolution or HD textures.

Nintendo does the same and everyone is complaining about the games not being 1080p.

Sure and HD remaster would have been cooler but I'm happy with direct ports.
Hell, Mario Galaxy 2 is still selling for like $40 were I live, even Gamestop has used copies for as much as $30. I just purchased it for $10

And lets not even begin with Metroid Trilogy. Those are generally priced between $50-$100. Now you can get it for $10

 

[Frodo]

I'm glad we have this option now, but there goes the chance of having Mario Galaxy HD at least until next Nintendo home console.

 

[Portalbox]

Can you use the actual gamepad to control Mario?

 

[nckillthegrimace]

How much is it?

$10, but it's on sale. I think it's normally $20, which a little high to me as a blanket Wii price.