Wii Titles (SMG2, Metroid Prime trilogy and Punch Out!) Announced for Wii U eShop

Platy said:
Your faq say that you don't need a wiimote and nuchuck to play s&p2

While this is technicaly true, NO ONE should play the game without a wiimote and nunchuck
Click to expand...

That's true for Pandora's Tower as well. Games that were designed around pointer controls are a nightmare to play with the classic controller. I honestly think those two games would have had a much better reception if they didn't include the inferior classic control option.
 
Loomba said:
Do 3rd party wii remotes with their own in built motion plus work with games that require it e.g. Zelda?

So If I buy http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GQUWB0K/ will it work with motion plus games?

and do 3rd party controllers work with the Wii U?

Thanks
Click to expand...

It would probably be recognized and "work" fine, but yeah, I'd stick with official stuff. Controllers aren't really the type of thing to cheap out on. I mean, what if the accelerometers register but behave differently (less accurate or force extreme motions, spaz out etc). If you're on a budget you'd probably be better of finding a used official one that will be long lasting. A couple people on the site you linked mentioned it breaking soon.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
It's interesting they don't position these are Virtual Console games, but rather just as Wii Games.

I thought it'd be easier to sell them if they consider them Virtual Console games (even if they aren't technically on a virtual console).

I even put Mario Galaxy 2 in my folder of Virtual Console titles
Click to expand...

But that's exactly what they are: downloadable Wii games. The Wii U can already play Wii discs, Nintendo is just adding support for digitally obtaining Wii games.

Also, they aren't emulated (they actually use the Wii U Wii BC to work), the Wii U essentially becomes a Wii when you boot them (no Miiverse, Browser, background downloads, etc) and they behave the same as putting the Wii discs on your Wii U (the added Gamepad support to select games notwithstanding).

I would love for them to make the same thing on the 3DS and put DS games for sale on the eShop.
 
Friend of Sonic said:
Metroid Prime Trilogy launching at 10 dollars is insane by Nintendo's standards. Are they understanding how to make money?
Click to expand...

i suppose they want to use the best they've got from their Metroid catalog and the only other 2 options are Metroid Prime 3 by itself and the other game everyone hates.

the first 2 MPs need to be the Wii versions to work properly since the GC versions require GC controllers and i don't think they'd be as crazy to release games that require the GC controller adapter (imagine if they did, the uproar that would ensue)
also, the Wii releases of the prime games only exist as a 3-game bundle (they might release them separately in japan since japan never got the trilogy and instead got mp1 and mp2 as standalone New Play Control releases)

seady said:
ummm...

Why SMG2 instead of the original SMG? That's a clearly better game (IMO).
Click to expand...

SMG1 is 4 GB (cutscenes mostly) and SMG2 is like 1.6 GB. i suppose they want to save that bandwidth.
 
It would be nice if they changed the disc icon when a wii game is inserted to launch directly into a Wii game and then exit to Wii U menu from in game.
 
Friend of Sonic said:
Metroid Prime Trilogy launching at 10 dollars is insane by Nintendo's standards. Are they understanding how to make money?
Click to expand...

They could get away with charging much more for the Trilogy and for that I'm thankful. Heck if they had broken up the series they could charge $20 for each entry. I'm really surprised it's one of the introductory games.

Perhaps they're trying to build the Metroid fanbase? Super Metroid is the #2 best selling SNES game in the shop, thanks in part to that 30 cent promotion. Getting the whole Prime trilogy for $10 will likely entice a lot of Wii U owners that never tried the franchise. Then, a lot of new interested customers are now anticipating Metroid U.

MikeE21286 said:
Wii u off screen gameplay not working for me :/
Click to expand...
What do you mean? The gamepad buttons won't work but you can still choose to have it stream to the pad if you select the option to do so.
 
Really hope this opens the door on some of those titles that were released in Europe but not America to get put on the eshop. I'm really hoping for Another Code: R – A Journey into Lost Memories aka Trace Memory which was never released here in America.
 
It will be interesting to see if they keep the 9.99 price introduction.

I can see myself picking up lots of titles at that price point, especially in the first week. At 20 Euro? Not so much if any. I also suspect that sales will plummet once they introduce the games at a 20 Euro price point, so it's interesting how they will react.

Thankfully Metroid is already there with only 10 Euro. Kirby would have been nice too though.
 
Glass Joe said:
They could get away with charging much more for the Trilogy and for that I'm thankful. Heck if they had broken up the series they could charge $20 for each entry. I'm really surprised it's one of the introductory games.

Perhaps they're trying to build the Metroid fanbase? Super Metroid is the #2 best selling SNES game in the shop, thanks in part to that 30 cent promotion. Getting the whole Prime trilogy for $10 will likely entice a lot of Wii U owners that never tried the franchise. Then, a lot of new interested customers are now anticipating Metroid U.
Click to expand...
I am thankful too! I imagine you're right on the money, and they're considering this as a way to build up the fanbase. It would be nice to see another Metroid title, so hopefully this drums up interest.
 
xyla said:
It will be interesting to see if they keep the 9.99 price introduction.

I can see myself picking up lots of titles at that price point, especially in the first week. At 20 Euro? Not so much if any. I also suspect that sales will plummet once they introduce the games at a 20 Euro price point, so it's interesting how they will react.

Thankfully Metroid is already there with only 10 Euro. Kirby would have been nice too though.
Click to expand...

They won't. The point of the promo is to get people talking, so now everyone is aware that Wii games are available on the eShop for purchase. $20 per game isn't really such a bad deal (keeping in mind Nintendo sets NES to $5, SNES $8 and N64 $10), but I won't be buying piles of Wii games either.

And that's assuming they plan on keeping each Wii title at $20. There could be price variances and sales since this isn't VC. Maybe 3rd parties will come on board with their own price points as well?
 
This service will live and die by how often they decide to release the games. I think it's a fantastic idea. If these are just ISO dumps then it should be relatively easy to give us one game a week.
 
xyla said:
It will be interesting to see if they keep the 9.99 price introduction.

I can see myself picking up lots of titles at that price point, especially in the first week. At 20 Euro? Not so much if any. I also suspect that sales will plummet once they introduce the games at a 20 Euro price point, so it's interesting how they will react.

Thankfully Metroid is already there with only 10 Euro. Kirby would have been nice too though.
Click to expand...

I think they will. They need to have a stronger eShop, and these are like, Steam sale caliber!
 
Scrawnton said:
This service will live and die by how often they decide to release the games. I think it's a fantastic idea. If these are just ISO dumps then it should be relatively easy to give us one game a week.
Click to expand...

Ye they need to fully commit to this. That is my issue with Nintendo, they don't fully commit to anything
 
AndyMoogle said:
I read some earlier posts about people saying they don't have black bars. If you don't see the black bars it's because your TV is zooming in the picture, which gives you a worse image than you should get. Go to your TV's options and check for Just Scan, Screen Fit or something like that. I believe LG and Samsung use the term Just Scan for example. It will give you the image as it should be and it will improve the image quality. There even was a thread about this here on GAF not too long ago.

It's not going to magically turn these SD images into something amazing, but it will be slightly better.
Click to expand...

If you are seeing the black bars on a 1080p set then you have won. You essentially have 1:1 pixel mapping with the original Wii game. The original game is 480p. The Wii U line doubles this by repeating each line to create a 960p image. Because 960p isn't quite 1080p, the Wii U adds thin black bars to the image. Letting your TV zoom to get rid of the black bars is going to soften the image. And if you don't normally see the black bars, that means when you play other games you are having part of the image cut off in addition to having the image softened. Play something like Far Cry 4 or Shadow of Mordor on that same set? You're screwing your picture up. You not seeing the black bars when playing Wii games on the Wii U is indicating a problem.
 
Beer Monkey said:
If you are seeing the black bars on a 1080p set then you have won. You essentially have 1:1 pixel mapping with the original Wii game. The original game is 480p. The Wii U line doubles this by repeating each line to create a 960p image. Because 960p isn't quite 1080p, the Wii U adds thin black bars to the image. Letting your TV zoom to get rid of the black bars is going to soften the image. And if you don't normally see the black bars, that means when you play other games you are having part of the image cut off in addition to having the image softened. Play something like Far Cry 4 or Shadow of Mordor on that same set? You're screwing your picture up. You not seeing the black bars when playing Wii games on the Wii U is indicating a problem.
Click to expand...

I don't know how widespread this feature is, but my Samsung tv allows me to shrink the "viewing area" even beyond that, to where the game is only displayed on like half of the area of the screen or less. Basically pretending that the tv is a smaller size than it is... think thicker and thicker black bars as you shrink it down more and more. I have found that this drastically improves the perceived IQ of SD games, but it's a tradeoff for sure.
 
I'm sorry if this has already been asked:

If they can move these wii games to the wiiu vc, why not (a ton) more? Isn't that effectively free money?
 
BumRush said:
I'm sorry if this has already been asked:

If they can move these wii games to the wiiu vc, why not (a ton) more? Isn't that effectively free money?
Click to expand...

They will probably be releasing Wii games regularly from here on out. You're right, it is basically free money as they are pretty much just paying for the bandwidth. They'll be doing them one at a time, though, so that each release is more of an "event."
 
I was watching the Direct thinking "This is cool, but I bet they'll be ridiculously priced. They'll be at least £20 each". Turns out they're a little less than that AND there's the launch offers.

I think I'll definitely pick up the Prime collection at launch since I remember that being a lot more expensive since it's rare now - same with Kirby's Adventure Wii which I had before but wanted to play again.
 
Calamari41 said:
They will probably be releasing Wii games regularly from here on out. You're right, it is basically free money as they are pretty much just paying for the bandwidth. They'll be doing them one at a time, though, so that each release is more of an "event."
Click to expand...

I understand the reasoning, but they've only "announced" like 6-7 despite a library of 100s of Wii games. Give us a calendar of releases and you can have my money.
 
Glad they didn't announce Metroid Prime Trilogy to be downloaded after the Direct instead of SMG2, I would have creamed my pants.
 
Glass Joe said:
They won't. The point of the promo is to get people talking, so now everyone is aware that Wii games are available on the eShop for purchase. $20 per game isn't really such a bad deal (keeping in mind Nintendo sets NES to $5, SNES $8 and N64 $10), but I won't be buying piles of Wii games either.

And that's assuming they plan on keeping each Wii title at $20. There could be price variances and sales since this isn't VC. Maybe 3rd parties will come on board with their own price points as well?
Click to expand...

Price variants would be nice, but 20 Euros is too much for an old game without any enhancements for me. More than twice the price of a game on gog.com.
10 Euro would be perfect and also a great time to adjust the VC prices down.

I'll wait and see how this plays out.
 
I love the selection of titles they've put up, because it's mostly classics that I've never actually played. At stupidly cheap prices. Can't wait for Metroid Prime trilogy. I'm curious why they did SMG2 without the first one, though.
 
Beer Monkey said:
If you are seeing the black bars on a 1080p set then you have won. You essentially have 1:1 pixel mapping with the original Wii game. The original game is 480p. The Wii U line doubles this by repeating each line to create a 960p image. Because 960p isn't quite 1080p, the Wii U adds thin black bars to the image. Letting your TV zoom to get rid of the black bars is going to soften the image. And if you don't normally see the black bars, that means when you play other games you are having part of the image cut off in addition to having the image softened. Play something like Far Cry 4 or Shadow of Mordor on that same set? You're screwing your picture up. You not seeing the black bars when playing Wii games on the Wii U is indicating a problem.
Click to expand...

how do you explain the identical black bars i see on my Wii then?
 
BumRush said:
I understand the reasoning, but they've only "announced" like 6-7 despite a library of 100s of Wii games. Give us a calendar of releases and you can have my money.
Click to expand...

Whats announced is enough to fill January and February. Direct first week of March confirmed.
 
Letep said:
Is Super Mario Galaxy 2 playable just with the gamepad?
Click to expand...
I don't know. Maybe try skimming the thread? Maybe it's been brought up several times. Maybe look at the first post? Why post a question and wait for an answer when checking through the thread is much quicker?

BumRush said:
I understand the reasoning, but they've only "announced" like 6-7 despite a library of 100s of Wii games. Give us a calendar of releases and you can have my money.
Click to expand...

I don't have Nintendo's financial stats obviously but let's just say as an example 5,000 people downloaded Mario Galaxy 2 last night. Now in my pretend world, let's say Mario Galaxy 2, Punch-Out, and Metroid Prime Trilogy all released the same day. Each gets downloaded 4,000 times but Galaxy 2 wasn't downloaded as much because someone who's interested in it wanted to play Metroid Prime more. Now imagine if the entire Wii catalog was turned on with the flip of a switch...

I think that's the philosophy of the drip feeding. Not saying it's wrong or right (it is annoying to the consumer) but there must be some data on Nintendo's end that classic titles sell better launch week with little competition and then drop way off the grid.

Beer Monkey said:
If you are seeing the black bars on a 1080p set then you have won. You essentially have 1:1 pixel mapping with the original Wii game. The original game is 480p. The Wii U line doubles this by repeating each line to create a 960p image. Because 960p isn't quite 1080p, the Wii U adds thin black bars to the image. Letting your TV zoom to get rid of the black bars is going to soften the image. And if you don't normally see the black bars, that means when you play other games you are having part of the image cut off in addition to having the image softened. Play something like Far Cry 4 or Shadow of Mordor on that same set? You're screwing your picture up. You not seeing the black bars when playing Wii games on the Wii U is indicating a problem.
Click to expand...

I'll have to play with this a little more. In Wii mode I had the (minor) black bars and when I got rid of them, I was a little happier. But when I went back to the Wii U menu the edges of my picture were cut off, so I readjusted it in the actual Wii U settings. I'll need to test more but since Wii games aren't going to look fantastic no matter what the trade-off might be worth it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

What if the WII U was successful?
2
53
517
Alan Wake replied
Metroid Prime 4 off screen GC footage
5 6 7 8 9
416
2K
reezoo replied
Metroid Prime 4 May Be Nintendo’s Most Expensive Project
2 3
109
532
Heimdall_Xtreme replied
Turok Trilogy Bundle physical edition announced for PS5, Switch (due out on October 31)
23
1K
alf717 replied
  • Poll
Switch owners, being honest: Metroid Prime 4 interest you?
2 3 4
158
778
Tg89 replied
Top Bottom