Fantastic Four Trailer # 1
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It was a scar, but Doom made it worse by putting on his metal mask before it cool. Sometimes he fixes it and it ends up back scared. They stopped doing that in the 90s and just has him living with it.
E the Shaggy
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Doom got a scar from the experiment he tried to pull off to contact his mother in the afterlife. Since he's Doom, he thought to himself, "My face is no longer perfect so FUCK IT." and then had some monks slam his burning hot metal mask onto his face:
He did this because he's DOCTOR DOOM and he's METAL AS FUCK.
In the new movie, he's a blogger.
Mix Master
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'Ol dude form nip tuck was a GOAT doom tho
He was fucking terrible. All he had to do was play his character Cole from Charmed and he would have been golden. But he fucked it up.
PhoncipleBone
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Well, that was before the mask. He was so vain he felt the scar was a disfigurement, so he had the mask made. But he put the mask on before it cooled down, so that burned and disfigured his face even further.
However, he did show off his healthy visage in Secret Wars after he stole the Beyonder's powers.
I think the last time we saw pretty Victor was in Children's Crusade.
Reed's costume is confusing given his power. Looks like a straight jacket.
they described them as containment suits before
I think that at least at first they're either suffering or having their powers act out of control
again: director said biggest inspiration was The Fly and Scanners (hype). They dont want this shit happening to them.
Miles Quaritch
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Looks good, much better than I was expecting.
Shame we didn't get a proper shot of them in the suits. And what's the end shot? Negative zone? Galactus?
Shame we didn't get a proper shot of them in the suits. And what's the end shot? Negative zone? Galactus?
PhoncipleBone
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Baller indeed.
I think it's just an interpretation. Not all that serious man.
Escape Goat
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All the superheroes wear uniforms made of the stuff. Its why Hulks pants dont burst.
yeah, it's clearly this and not: "there's fucking 10 marvel studios faithful comic book to film adaptations now, fuck us for trying something different rite"
regardless of what this ends up being im glad it exists
I loooooooooooooove marvel films and even im starting to get tired of those teaser-end stingers that can be said by either tony stark/starlord/ant-man with no difference in the same exact snarky manner
if the crappy ant-man trailer didnt show that to most then I dunno. This feels okay to me.
Escape Goat
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Its hard to speak to the tone of the movie but all we have to go on is this trailer. Having said that the trailer betrays the actual tone and purpose of the comic. And thats no doubt to create intrigue among general audiences. Fantastic Four are not super heroes. They're scientists and explorers. Its about family and the thrill of discovery.
I would have been happy with a Fantastic Voyage + Marvels Fantastic Four movie.
Future PhaZe
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i'm actually kind of..
good with it
i think all the changes they've mad are actually really cool
"comic book" isnt a genre
it shouldnt be in movies either
comics have been doing different takes and interesting stuff for a long while. We're heading on a direction where everyone's complaining about shit being stale and samey yet we get this backlash when they try to go on a somewhat unexpected direction. The concept of superheroes in the real world or at least with more realistic consequences is really interesting and worth exploring from different points of view (Specially when I already get my need for Hulk vs Iron Man super colorful fight satisfied elsewhere) That's what was interesting about Chronicle and he's clearly bringing some of that here.
i've been giving it a chance since the beggining regardless of shitty behind the scenes Doom and all that, and so far with the teaser and inspirations/directions talk it's paid off
it shouldnt be in movies either
comics have been doing different takes and interesting stuff for a long while. We're heading on a direction where everyone's complaining about shit being stale and samey yet we get this backlash when they try to go on a somewhat unexpected direction. The concept of superheroes in the real world or at least with more realistic consequences is really interesting and worth exploring from different points of view (Specially when I already get my need for Hulk vs Iron Man super colorful fight satisfied elsewhere) That's what was interesting about Chronicle and he's clearly bringing some of that here.
i've been giving it a chance since the beggining regardless of shitty behind the scenes Doom and all that, and so far with the teaser and inspirations/directions talk it's paid off
I think the Fanboys who shit on Marvel Fanboys are the worst. How would you feel if people constantly shit on something you enjoy?
MidnightCowboy
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As a trailer it was better than I expected. Visually it looks more interesting than the typical comic book movie.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Stop, you're killing me.
The Atticus
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The people shitting on the people shitting on Marvel fanboys are the worst.
Well, technically, nothing's paid off yet. It's a teaser and it does exactly what a teaser should do....it shows nothing of the plot, just some brief scenes that mean nothing.
Pai Pai Master
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would be nice if we could have one thread regarding some marvel property that doesn't turn OT into gaming side
also "unexpected direction" is being really, really generous here. It looks like most Hollywood blockbusters. when sticking to the classic FF DNA would actually make it an "unexpected direction" compared to the typical blockbuster.
but again, best to not waste too much brainpower on a vague teaser trailer, it's done its job at least of making me want to see more.
also "unexpected direction" is being really, really generous here. It looks like most Hollywood blockbusters. when sticking to the classic FF DNA would actually make it an "unexpected direction" compared to the typical blockbuster.
but again, best to not waste too much brainpower on a vague teaser trailer, it's done its job at least of making me want to see more.
Would be easier to take they had done a good FF movie that was faithful to the spirit first.
People are saying this a lot. I agree in a way but a teaser is still indicative of what a film ends up being, or at least it can be in terms of tone and whatnot
the director has said a lot about not wanting to reveal stuff in the wrong way, or early, etc etc. Im guessing he has some control over the teaser and it "paid off" to me in the sense that the tone we've seen so far falls in line with the inspirations or take he was talking about
Miles Quaritch
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What are chances this version of Reed will be the maniacal genius that's in the comics? The one that's considered one of the deadliest and feared superheroes around?
Pai Pai Master
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depends on how much of Ultimate FF they want to adapt lol, something tells me they won't be turning Reed into a supervillain any time soon.
What tone, though? There's not enough there to get a tone. Not revealing stuff is great, but except for the potential cinematography and some costumes / looks, there's nothing there yet.
Seriously. If you had said, "I like the way it looks / shot.", sure! There's evidence for that. Tone? Science experiment.....person catches on fire...quick shot of forcefield Sue...rocks breaking....big blue light of doom...shots of desperate heroes and military types....If that's what you wanted, great, but if that's all you wanted out of it, it's been done. A lot. That's why it's bad to consider this teaser beyond visuals, it's actually pointing to a generic origin story.
Visually, it looked nice thus far, though.
Mix Master
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i still cant get over anti social blogger doom, i mean What in the flying fuck?
I hope the trailer's tone translates to the movie. For me when it comes to superhero movies, you either have to go serious (dark knight trilogy), or not take yourself seriously at all (GotG) for me to enjoy it. In between stuff like iron man/avengers/spiderman does absolutely nothing for me.
Zen_Arcade
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I don't think this is nearly the problem you think it is. The last two Marvel movies have been among the most praised of all of them. You're probably going to point out the lukewarm reception of the Ant-Man trailer as reasoning of why people are tired, but that completely ignores how hyped people are for Avengers 2 and Captain America 3. I think the majority of people are perfectly happy with the way Marvel is continuing their movie universe.
I know I'd much rather have comic books movies feel like their comic book counterparts, and I find it odd that people are that confused by people wanting that. Just because you don't particularly give a shit about it being a faithful adaptation doesn't mean it's a weird thing for people to want. They're fans of the Fantastic Four for a reason, and haven't gotten a faithful movie adaptation that fits that tone. It shouldn't be that surprising that people are disappointed in them going in the completely opposite direction of what they want when they've never even put in a good effort in making a movie that feels like the comic book they've been following for years.
There's nothing wrong with exploring the idea of super heroes in the real world dealing with consequences. The problem most people have with it is that they're trying to force that into a part of the comic book universe where that concept makes little to no sense. There are tons of street level heroes that that angle could be applied to perfectly, but the entire point of the Fantastic Four is supposed to be a group of people exploring things that people in the "Real World" couldn't begin to comprehend.
Now again, you might not give a shit about why people find the Fantastic Four appealing, so you don't care that the movie deviates from it, but it shouldn't be surprising to you that people who did want that faithful adaptation aren't happy with the feel of this movie. There are better characters the concepts you're looking for could be applied to, trying to make that the concept of a Fantastic Four movie is the exact opposite of what a lot of people want.
You know Reed doesn't have to go full supervillian to be dirty. He risked the multiverse just to prove Doom wrong.
plasmawave
Banned
So that's how he got his super drumming power.
Eh, is "Marvel Fanboys" not a term used for fans who go around crapping on DC/non Disney Marvel stuff? I was under the impression that fanboy came with a negative connotation.
There are Marvel fans that enjoy Marvel movies... and there's a distinction between them and Marvel fanboys.
So crapping on those people who run around trashing everything non-Disney Marvel, is okay in my books. (people trashing Disney as fanboys of other things is just as bad though...)
That looks awful
Miles Quaritch
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Well sure, not a supervillain, but someone who isn't as black and white as a superhero would normally be.
Someone who is a lot more morally grey than we're used to seeing of superheroes on the big screen. I feel there's an opportunity here to go in an interesting direction with this movie, but I also feel they've probably played it safe and have Reed be the upstanding hero who only ever does the morally right thing as people expect superheroes to do.
A darker tone with a more aggressive and super intelligent Reed who doesn't always do the morally right thing would have been pretty great to see. Would at least help differentiate it from the other comic book movies out there.
really? not enough for tone? I mean you just described it
all of this with a voice over about science, discovery, travel, going too far, consequences..
how is that not tone, I dunno
here's the trailer for the previous iteration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dZ5mJBnBY
i'd say that's very indicative of what we ended up with
this movie looks like a bummer about travelling far, shit going bad and the consequences of that and I love it. The teaser absolutely has a tone, wtf?
a good way to put what im talking about comes to mind after someone here mentioned Marvel Ruins
Marvel Ruins is a take on characters that exists within that comic book world. A very different take. We're at a point now where comic book characters are very integrated into hollywood, so why not make an interesting take on them? the ideas behind these characters are worth exploring beyond having a 1:1 comic-book-to-film from their most known story
im not blaming anyone for not wanting this and being bummed that they dont get the Fantastic Four they know and love, that's absolutely justifiable, im just saying there's die hard fans of pretty much every comic book character out there, and im fine with them taking liberties like this on some at this point in time
we're not in the early 2000s anymore where people complained about movies being scared of portraying comic book characters properly: this aint that, clearly. We're over that and this is what is now risky
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yep I would love this as it's a big part of what makes Reed appealing to me. I hope they don't play it safe, I just don't know what to expect at all from this movie.
Those are themes, not tone. The teaser tells us some of the themes and what the movie is about, and we'd need more than just a teaser to indicate what the overall tone of the movie is.
Eh, suppose you're right. Still feel it's far too early for the supporters or detractors to go nuts about yet, but yeah, it definitely looks grim.
Miles Quaritch
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That third from last shot looks like...Doom? Maybe?
First shot also looks like Doom before he's scarred/transformed/whatever direction they decide to go in to make him wear the mask and suit.
It's one of the reasons why I'm always willing to give these FF movies a shot. I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe they'll do Reed justice and we'll get a reasonably faithful version of the character on the big screen. Same for Doom, these characters are some of the most interesting and badass characters in the comic books, it's a shame they can't seem to get a good version that successfully captures some of their comic book awesomeness on the big screen.
Ah well, one day...maybe.
First shot also looks like Doom before he's scarred/transformed/whatever direction they decide to go in to make him wear the mask and suit.
It's one of the reasons why I'm always willing to give these FF movies a shot. I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe they'll do Reed justice and we'll get a reasonably faithful version of the character on the big screen. Same for Doom, these characters are some of the most interesting and badass characters in the comic books, it's a shame they can't seem to get a good version that successfully captures some of their comic book awesomeness on the big screen.
Ah well, one day...maybe.
My, and it seems like everybody's, primary concern should be whether it's a good film. I could give a fuck less about a movie that even if it's faithful in tone or whatever, is a bad film. Bad films hurt IPs more than a shift of tone.
Now there's something to be said about an adaptation pretty much shitting on its source material, that would be like making Reed a child rapist or Sue an exhibionist. However different takes aren't going to magically replace the source material. No matter how good the Civil War is in MCU, it won't wash out the shitstain that is the comics version.
This movie isn't supposed to be a straight or literal adaptation, but rather a more liberal one, so it's stupid to view it under that lens.
ok, here's some tones, according to google:
formal, informal, intimate, solemn, somber, playful, serious, ironic, condescending..
would you not be able to say from this teaser if the movie looks like it might fit one of those more than the other?
the tone is giving through its themes plus cinematography, editing, etc, hence why im posting pics/talking about the voice over to back it up.
Really? .... =/Doom got a scar from the experiment he tried to pull off to contact his mother in the afterlife. Since he's Doom, he thought to himself, "My face is no longer perfect so FUCK IT." and then had some monks slam his burning hot metal mask onto his face:
He did this because he's DOCTOR DOOM and he's METAL AS FUCK.
In the new movie, he's a blogger.
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