PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print

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Officerrob said:
11 quality candidates...

This is the weakest field ever
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Yeah kind of hilarious how inverted the reality is. The Republican's bench couldn't be bigger and there's no obvious winners. Same problem over in Congress with getting a new speaker of the house.

Meanwhile, the democrats can relax knowing that they've 8 years to build their bench up.
 
Bush campaign manager confronts CNBC producer

Jeb Bush campaign manager Danny Diaz got into a heated confrontation with a CNBC producer outside the debate as it was happening, according to two sources familiar with the incident.

One of the sources said Diaz was complaining about speaking time allotments.

“It’s a poorly managed debate,” said a Bush campaign staffer.
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Trump's closing statement.

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First debate eliminated Perry. Second debate eliminated Walker.

Third debate eliminated Bush?
 
danm999 said:
Jeb was just a non-entity in this thing after he flubbed the attack on Rubio.

Another Bush family meeting upcoming?
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I think that this might be the main headline. Bush is on thin, thin ice, and Rubio knows he'd be the prime beneficiary. Rubio's return fire wasn't a knockout though, just due to the sheer density of the format. The audience is forced to file that moment away with a litany of other moments from the two-hour, ten-contestant event.

After tonight, I'd love to hear what Michael Steel thinks about Jeb staying in for the long run.
 
MRC president Brent Bozell issued a statement Wednesday night criticizing the overall tilt and tone of the CNBC Republican debate in Boulder:

"The CNBC moderators acted less like journalists and more like Clinton campaign operatives. What was supposed to be a serious debate about the many issues plaguing our economy was given up for one Democratic talking point after another served up by the so-call 'moderators.' They clearly war-gamed this thinking that a relentless series of personal attacks on the candidates would somehow drive their ratings and help Hillary Clinton.

The CNBC debate will go down in history as an encyclopedic example of liberal media bias on stage. The audience roared its disdain for these so-called 'journalists,' and all of America heard it. CNBC should be embarrassed for their pitiful display of partisan liberal media bias and apologize to the GOP candidates and the American people."
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This is probably the least sticky debate the Republicans had so far. Less infighting (besides Trump v Kasich), and more shitting on CNBC. Now all they need to do is chop out 3-5 people.
 
This debate was one of the worst ever, somehow this debate focused on fewer subjects than the others and at times with the least amount of substance with candidates going after each other earlier to the people going after the moderators. Moderators were crap after the first bit and progressively got worse. I think they only really talked about medicare, social security, healthcare, the economy being crap, and the government being crap, and that's it.


If I was a Republican I don't think I really learned anything besides enjoying the mods and the government being shit on. This was one of the most pessimistic debate those far. Also this looked like Scot Walker moment for Jeb.
 
CNBC fed Bush softballs, which basically screwed Bush over.

You want hardballs to complain about in order to get over in these debates.
 
I see Rubio and Christie seeing bumps and Carson starting to drop. He's not aggressive enough, and lacks so much charisma he looks and sounds like Droopy Dog up there.
 
Hannity: "Most of those questions sounded like they came right from Democrat HQ."
Christie: "Yep, and yet we were still able to get the issues talked about."
 
On the one hand, I love that Democrats are increasingly looking like they are set to utterly steamroll this election. On the other hand, if this debate is a portent of a future 'new normal' of political elections then I'm worried. Hopefully it's just a last gasp and better things are ahead.
 
Talk times from NPR:

Fiorina 10:32
Rubio 10:10
Kasich 9:42
Trump 9:26
Christie 8:31
Huckabee 7:39
Cruz 7:34
Carson 7:02
Bush 6:39
Paul 6:15

Those times were super off compared to poll numbers.
 
thepotatoman said:
Talk times from NPR:

Fiorina 10:32
Rubio 10:10
Kasich 9:42
Trump 9:26
Christie 8:31
Huckabee 7:39
Cruz 7:34
Carson 7:02
Bush 6:39
Paul 6:15

Those times were super off compared to poll numbers.
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I doubt they wanted to give Trump too much time, they probably realized that the more they let him talk the better he does.
 
Aside from the boundary points of Fiorini/Bush, it seems like a good spread of talking time if you were hoping for equal distribution. Or maybe given the shorter time it's not that good because discrepancies are proportionally worse? Let me try to look up the earlier debates.

Sept 16th Debate said:
Trump: 18:47

Bush: 15:48

Fiorina: 13:30

Carson: 12:56

Christie: 12:36

Rubio: 11:21

Cruz: 10:45

Paul: 10:28

Kasich: 9:44

Huckabee: 9:20

Walker: 8:29
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