whyamihere
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Final:
Walsh (R): 52.076%
Skelton (D): 47.924%
Huge improvement on both Hillary and Obama's numbers.
Walsh (R): 52.076%
Skelton (D): 47.924%
Huge improvement on both Hillary and Obama's numbers.
PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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balladofwindfishes
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Yea, but we lost and that's all that matters and everything is terrible and we'll never win anything ever again /s
True. But it would be nice if they'd start swinging them.
Autodidact
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Permanent minority, really. Sad!
Aaron Strife
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We've swung four seats so far this year.
whyamihere
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We have...
Autodidact
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Democrats never win except when they win.
Which is never.
Aaron Strife
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Autodidact
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I wonder if Republicans engaged in this sort of hand-wringing angst from 1933-1953. Those radio stations might've carried some lit-as-fuck think pieces about their failure to capture the white working class
whyamihere
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GOP margins vs Trump down big in the Trumpiest county in this Iowa senate district.
Out of...?
whyamihere
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I feel like you think this is cute
No not really
Fenderputty
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A goal post move to reestablish a new point of skepticism
Aaron Strife
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In 2006 there were 232 GOP-held House seats up for election and we only won 30 of them.
Have some perspective.
jack_package_200
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This Tweet has not aged well
I get it.
I honestly did want to know how many elections there have been, no being cute or goal post moving...
whyamihere
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DEM
HOLD
IN
IOWA
HUGE
TRUMP
DISTRICT
HOLD
IN
IOWA
HUGE
TRUMP
DISTRICT
Crazy is crazy...
whyamihere
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Iowa HD-82:
2016: Trump (57.76%), Clinton (36.54%)
2012: Obama (49.74%), Romney (47.90%)
Tonight:
Miller, D (54.74%)
Harris, R (45.26%)
2016: Trump (57.76%), Clinton (36.54%)
2012: Obama (49.74%), Romney (47.90%)
Tonight:
Miller, D (54.74%)
Harris, R (45.26%)
Maybe voters are finally realizing Trump will not do shit for them. They're probably the social conservative economic liberals that make up a sizeable chunk of midwestern WWC. BRCA for example was a bit of betrayal.
Wowza.
whyamihere
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"The president is as strong as hes ever been in Iowa" - White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters, 8/5/17
Spoiled Milk
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Some graphs from Thomas Piketty et al.
Fix this before it's too late.
Fix this before it's too late.
I saw earlier on a Jacobin article pulling from that study that the average individual wealth of the bottom 50% of the country in 2014 was $386 or something like that.
whyamihere
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Full special election table:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/edit#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/edit#gid=0
Both Indiana congressmen, i take it?
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SlickShoesRUCrazy
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It's already too late....25% of the population voted for a "billionaire" they believed represented the average man...
whyamihere
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hot damn
Spoiled Milk
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It was Reagan, and then it was Bush, and then it was Clinton, and then it was Bush, and then it was Obama. But this mostly happened under Obama.
But it's nobody's "fault" anyway. It just happened. Our society is prosperous. Our wealth is innumerous. People made money. Nobody thought to try and share some of it.
Spoiled Milk
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Nuts. Income inequality is the defining issue of our time.
Campaign harder.
I mean there is this whole anthropogenic climate change thing going on... wealth inequality is just going to determine who suffers most and soonest.
AntraxSuicide
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Counter-point: I'm taking my PhD comprehensive exams next week, which won't happen if I get nuked. So nuke away!
It's just rural Mississippi. Probably a drag on federal funds anyway
ShadowSwordmaster
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AntraxSuicide
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Yeah, climate change is the biggest for sure. Political will to fix income inequality gets harder every year (or rather, the political entrenchment of the wealthy gets stronger), but there will be a point of no return on the environment where it will be physically impossible to stop the change.
Spoiled Milk
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You know, I actually saw the sequel today, and it was pretty good. It's a tie for me regarding which is more of a defining issue.
Climate Change 2: Electric Boogaloo?You know, I actually saw the sequel today, and it was pretty good. It's a tie for me regarding which is more of a defining issue.
Aaron Strife
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It's early, but tonight might be the first sign that Iowa (and the rural Midwest) isn't gone for good.
These states swung hard for Trump because they were willing to give him a chance, but that doesn't mean they won't snap back now that it's clear what a loser he is.
Also I realized there actually was a special election in a state legislative seat that swung from Dem to GOP, but we didn't contest it. Some southern state, I want to say Mississippi or Louisiana.
In any case, 13-point margin would surely be enough to overcome the gerrymandered maps. Then again that one guy said we'd only pick up two seats.
These states swung hard for Trump because they were willing to give him a chance, but that doesn't mean they won't snap back now that it's clear what a loser he is.
Also I realized there actually was a special election in a state legislative seat that swung from Dem to GOP, but we didn't contest it. Some southern state, I want to say Mississippi or Louisiana.
In any case, 13-point margin would surely be enough to overcome the gerrymandered maps. Then again that one guy said we'd only pick up two seats.
whyamihere
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A 6% swing from 2012 Iowa results (what IA HD28 was tonight) would give Dems a gain of 7 in the Iowa Senate (of the 25 seats that are up in 2018) and would swing the chamber back to Dems on a 27-23 margin. A 30% swing from 2016 Iowa results (what IA HD28 was tonight) would give Dems a gain of 11 seats of the 25 up in 2018 for a 31-19 majority in the state senate.
If we're to extrapolate these Missouri numbers, we get some interesting data from both. I'll first use MO HD50's -4.15 margin. I'm also just going to add up all the numbers here as Democrat and Non-Dem, so lumping in the Green+Lib+Other vote with Republicans to get a two party vote.
MO HD 50
2016 was Clinton, 37%, Non-Clinton, 63% (-26%)
2012 was Obama, 37.65%, Non-Obama, 62.35% (-24.7%)
2012 was McCaskill, 48.66%, Non-McCaskill, 51.34% (-2.68%)
A uniform swing statewide would've given Clinton a 21.85% swing, resulting in:
Clinton, 48.26%, Non-Clinton, 51.74
A uniform swing statewide would've given Obama a 20.55% swing, resulting in:
Obama, 54.68%, Non-Obama, 45.32%
And more important, a uniform swing statewide would've given McCaskill a -1.47% swing, resulting in:
McCaskill: 54.06%, Non-McCaskill: 45.94%
Now, if we're using MO SD28 with a D-19% margin...
2012 was McCaskill, 43.90%, Non-McCaskill, 56.16% (-12.26%)
And more important, a uniform swing statewide would've given McCaskill a -6.74% swing, resulting in:
McCaskill: 51.43%, Non-McCaskill: 48.57%
If we're to extrapolate these Missouri numbers, we get some interesting data from both. I'll first use MO HD50's -4.15 margin. I'm also just going to add up all the numbers here as Democrat and Non-Dem, so lumping in the Green+Lib+Other vote with Republicans to get a two party vote.
MO HD 50
2016 was Clinton, 37%, Non-Clinton, 63% (-26%)
2012 was Obama, 37.65%, Non-Obama, 62.35% (-24.7%)
2012 was McCaskill, 48.66%, Non-McCaskill, 51.34% (-2.68%)
A uniform swing statewide would've given Clinton a 21.85% swing, resulting in:
Clinton, 48.26%, Non-Clinton, 51.74
A uniform swing statewide would've given Obama a 20.55% swing, resulting in:
Obama, 54.68%, Non-Obama, 45.32%
And more important, a uniform swing statewide would've given McCaskill a -1.47% swing, resulting in:
McCaskill: 54.06%, Non-McCaskill: 45.94%
Now, if we're using MO SD28 with a D-19% margin...
2012 was McCaskill, 43.90%, Non-McCaskill, 56.16% (-12.26%)
And more important, a uniform swing statewide would've given McCaskill a -6.74% swing, resulting in:
McCaskill: 51.43%, Non-McCaskill: 48.57%
Spoiled Milk
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An Inconvenient Sequel
Aaron Strife
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With that kind of swing we might have a shot at the Iowa House too.
Can't be assed to figure out how many seats though, Ballotpedia doesn't list the margins, just the vote totals.
Can't be assed to figure out how many seats though, Ballotpedia doesn't list the margins, just the vote totals.
whyamihere
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Bookmark this
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ts-by-congressional-and-legislative-districts
A 6% swing from 2012 would give us 40 seats (lol), not taking into account incumbency advantages. That's not happening. So, probably the best thing to do is some marriage between 2012 and 2016 numbers.
hey_monkey
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We've got "Fire Rokita" signs all over town, so I guess he decided he'd quit instead.
(god, I hope he goes down in flames, but it's Indiana, so....)
whyamihere
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It's a tough district. There isn't really a Dem base. Even in 2008, when Obama won the state:
There's almost no Dem bases of support. I think the only county that Obama won that year in the district was Tippecanoe, which he lost in 2012 and Hillary lost in 2016. It's actually a fairly impressive gerrymander.
(This was 2016. Yeesh.)
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