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2011 NBA Mar |OT| Now listening to the Stan Van Gundy mixtape

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Pkaz01

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Dudleys latest tweet...

We took Channing to a sporting good store yesterday, We had him buy a cup lol.. We don't want KG getting any more ideas lol

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pilonv1

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UPDATE No. 2: According to Alex Kennedy of HOOPSWORLD, "Curry is telling those close to him that he'll eventually sign with the Miami Heat ... Whether this is wishful thinking or genuine interest from Miami remains to be seen."

Oh god make this happen.
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
no fuckin way i'm stuck with the Cavs pbp guys

I hope the Spurs rip 'em apart by the 2nd.
 

dream

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reilo said:
Last Blazer to win player of the month was Clyde almost twenty years ago. Roy never won it. Kudos.

Well deserved, honestly. I see All Star Kevin Love from time to time and I'm just like "well, that's cute, he's grabbing rebounds." From the few Blazers games I've had the misfortune to watch, LMA actually contributes to his team in a meaningful way.
 

charsace

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Freedom = $1.05 said:
It takes a special type of player to play with 2 all stars and somehow barely see a dent in his overall stats.
He isn't in my top 10. A guy that should get MVP talk is LMA. From pussy to a motherfucking man. Blazers would be a bottom of the barrel team without him.
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
It takes a special type of player to play with 2 all stars and somehow barely see a dent in his overall stats.

If by barely a dent you mean a large increase in turnover rate and decrease in assist rate with a significant drop in shooting percentage despite a smaller usage, then sure.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
dream said:
Well deserved, honestly. I see All Star Kevin Love from time to time and I'm just like "well, that's cute, he's grabbing rebounds." From the few Blazers games I've had the misfortune to watch, LMA actually contributes to his team in a meaningful way.

you are in the running for stupid post of the month
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Blackace said:
you are in the running for stupid post of the month
To be honest, Kevin Love is not the type of player you run plays for. Or at least they haven't in Minnesota. Whether that's Rambis or Love, I don't know. I think it could be both.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Freedom = $1.05 said:
It takes a special type of player to play with 2 all stars and somehow barely see a dent in his overall stats.

It would be one thing if the other two all-stars didn't see a dent in their stats..
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
reilo said:
To be honest, Kevin Love is not the type of player you run plays for. Or at least they haven't in Minnesota. Whether that's Rambis or Love, I don't know. I think it could be both.

no one since rodman has controlled the glass more completely than Love... and he does get you some points as well to go with it..
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Freedom = $1.05 said:
I was being sarcastic. I can see why some folks troll NBAGAF now, though. You guys sure are a sensitive bunch.

the only person being sensitive is the person explaining their wit to us..
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Blackace said:
no one since rodman has controlled the glass more completely than Love... and he does get you some points as well to go with it..
How can you say that when Dwight just came off of consecutive months averaging 25/15 on 61% and 67% shooting?

Stats would tell you that Love and Dwight aren't that far apart, but for anyone watching the games, can we really say that is true?
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
reilo said:
How can you say that when Dwight just came off of consecutive months averaging 25/15 on 61% and 67% shooting?

Stats would tell you that Love and Dwight aren't that far apart, but for anyone watching the games, can we really say that is true?

Dwight is more of a pressence in the middle without a doubt..

But Love is ave 3+ more boards and has had more 20+ rebound games and has had 30 rebound games.. come on now..
 
blackace said:
the only person being sensitive is the person explaining their wit to us..

Not really. I'm ragging on my team and its awfully selfish player. I just thought it was more obvious than I made it. Mah bad. I'll just make eddy curry jokes from here on out, even if that's soooooooooo passé.
 

Bread

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reilo said:
I looked up Gilbert's numbers since joining Orlando... urhhhh...
I really expected him to turn it on once he left the Wizards, I guess he's just cooked. Enjoy that contract, Magic fans!
 

charsace

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Freedom = $1.05 said:
Not really. I'm ragging on my team and its awfully selfish player. I just thought it was more obvious than I made it. Mah bad. I'll just make eddy curry jokes from here on out, even if that's soooooooooo passé.
Didn't know you were a cHeat fan. How did that knicks ass taste?
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Blackace said:
Dwight is more of a pressence in the middle without a doubt..

But Love is ave 3+ more boards and has had more 20+ rebound games and has had 30 rebound games.. come on now..
He's an amazing rebounder, nobody is denying that.

But would anyone call Love a "go-to" or "franchise" player?
 

Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Blackace said:
Yo, he sucks.. get over it..

Having a pretty good year in Spain, playing for Real Madrid with an excellent coach, actually.

Sucking is playing for a team in France or Turkey and not getting minutes.

PERSPECTIVA
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
reilo said:
He's an amazing rebounder, nobody is denying that.

But would anyone call Love a "go-to" or "franchise" player?

I compared him to Rodman..

but saying "oh he is just grabbing 30 fucking boards oh hum.." shows a lack of basketball insight...
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Blackace said:
Yo, he sucks.. get over it..
But you don't understand! Nate McMillan is the reason he sucks! It's not Sergio's fault! Nooo!
Blackace said:
I compared him to Rodman..

but saying "oh he is just grabbing 30 fucking boards oh hum.." shows a lack of basketball insight...
Well, I didn't say that. If we want to focus on just his rebounding, that's fine. He's on a class damn near on his own.

But as far as other skills go, he's got a long way to go.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
charsace said:
Didn't know you were a cHeat fan. How did that knicks ass taste?

The New York Knickerbockers fuck the offseason we tamper from Oct!
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Cavs starting line-up tonight:

Ramon Sessions
Anthony Parker
Alonzo Gee
Samardo Samuels
JJ Hickson
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
dream said:
Would you rather build a team around All Star Kevin Love or LaMarcus Aldridge?

LMA has really stepped up his game this year.. last year he looked like Kevin Love minus the 20+ rebound games..

I think Love would be really good in Mac-10's offense.. He has a shitty coach on a (sorry Rodeo) shitty franchise (with hot unis)
 
dream said:
Well deserved, honestly. I see All Star Kevin Love from time to time and I'm just like "well, that's cute, he's grabbing rebounds." From the few Blazers games I've had the misfortune to watch, LMA actually contributes to his team in a meaningful way.
I love reading dumb posts!
 

giri

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reilo said:
He's an amazing rebounder, nobody is denying that.

But would anyone call Love a "go-to" or "franchise" player?
Thats impossible to say, but they guy is scoring at over 15 a game or so? (with out looking it up) with out a PG to get him the ball or any plays drawn up for him and has a much better shooting touch than most anyone his size from range.

You won't know if he's "franchise" untill someone actually trys to use him properly.
 

Bishman

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sonitii said:
It's okay to post this right? Will delete if not. Just a quick copy/paste so formatting may be off.





Nobody is talking about the Mavs

Can Dallas catch the Spurs in the Southwest Division? (PER Diem: March 1, 2011)

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KiddMatthew Emmons/US PresswireThe Spurs and Lakers may be the favorites out West, but don't count out Jason Kidd and the Mavs.

It's time to talk about Dallas again.

You remember the Mavs, right? The team that has the league's third-best record. The team that has won 16 of its past 17 games? The team that, for some reason, absolutely nobody is talking about right now?

Yeah, those guys.

Last season, you'll recall, they accomplished a similar feat, winning 15 straight games after the break against a soft stretch of schedule while my Power Rankings frowned in disapproval.

This year looks a little different. While the Mavs are only seventh in the current rankings, they're within a point of third. Look at the "rating" and not the ranking, and you'll see there are essentially seven teams as near-equals at the top, followed by a chasm separating No. 7 Dallas from No. 8 Philadelphia and the rest of the league.

Similar to last year, Dallas again has an unusually bad point differential for its record, with just a plus-3.9 average scoring margin; their brethren in the contender community all are at plus-6.0 or better. The difference is that they're actually playing really well right now.

The point differential numbers are skewed a bit by a horrid 10-game stretch when Dirk Nowitzki was out of the lineup, but let's focus instead on the 20 games Dallas has played with Dirk and without Caron Butler -- essentially, the team they'll take into the playoffs. There, the résumé brightens considerably. The Mavs are 17-3 with a plus-6.3 average scoring margin in that stretch, a far cry from the series of smoke-and-mirrors wins last March. Although the opposition was soft, 12 of the 20 games were on the road.

The Mavs are a weird team that doesn't quite fit our construct of what a contender ought to look like -- there's only one star, and they have a bunch of little guards running around, and their only real small forward is 92 years old and was released by one of the worst teams in captivity.

But they're really effective. And while they give off the same "regular-season overachiever" vibe that Chicago does in the East, one would prefer to have a more valid empirical reason for dismissing a team's chances.

Which takes us to the first big question in today's Western Conference FAQ: Can Dallas catch San Antonio? Jason Terry said it was doable, and Tony Parker's injury undoubtedly throws fuel on the fire. So …


Can Dallas catch San Antonio? Standing six games back with 23 to play, the Mavs have their work cut out for them, even with Parker out two to four weeks with a calf strain. (And given Gregg Popovich's history of valuing the big picture over the short term, you can bet it will be closer to four weeks than two before Parker returns). Dallas has only one game left against the Spurs, on March 18, so even with a win they have to make up five games in the rest of the slate.

Beating the Spurs in March would tie the season series, and making up the rest of the ground would probably allow Dallas to catch San Antonio in division record (one game behind if they win in March) and conference record (four back with a win in March), so that Dallas would probably, but not certainly, have the tiebreaker.

Five games back doesn't seem like much, but if San Antonio doesn't totally choke, then Dallas nearly has to run the table. Even sans Parker, San Antonio won't be bad -- George Hill can adequately fill in at the point, and Manu Ginobili and Gary Neal also can initiate the offense. The Spurs still have some big games left (twice against Miami and the Lakers, once against Boston), but even so, I have trouble seeing them doing any worse than 12-10 in the 22 non-Dallas games; most likely they'll do substantially better.

Take San Antonio's worst-case of 12-10 and you'll see the Mavs have to go 17-5; if the Spurs improve much on that 12-10 mark, it quickly becomes impossible for Dallas to catch them even with a win in March. Should San Antonio go 15-7, for instance, it requires Dallas to go 20-2 against a schedule that isn't chopped liver. And that's assuming a win on March 18; lose that one, and their hopes are toast.

So no, I don't think they can do it. But they could make it a bit more interesting along the way.


Can the Lakers win three straight series on the road? The two-time defending champion Lakers are in third in the West right now, which means they could have some rough sledding come playoff time. Because Boston nearly did the same thing a year ago as the No. 4 seed before faltering at the end of Game 7 in the Finals, we've lost sight of just how difficult this feat is in practice.

In the last three decades, only one team -- the 1994-95 Rockets -- has won a championship playing more than two series without home-court advantage. Otherwise you have to go all the way back to the 1977-78 Bullets to find a team that won three straight series on the road to claim a title.

Others have won as a No. 3 seed, but it takes help. San Antonio was in the same position in 2007, but was on the road only once in four series; an upset gave the Spurs the home court in the conference finals, and they had a better record than any team in the East (L.A. does not). And the Lakers and Detroit also won as No. 3s this decade, but they were really No. 2s -- they had home-court advantage against the No. 2 in the second round.

The Lakers themselves have yet to win a series without home-court advantage in the post-Shaq era. The last time they pulled it off was the 2004 conference finals against Minnesota.

So it appears for the Lakers to have realistic hope of a three-peat, one of two things needs to happen -- either they need to pass Dallas for the second seed (possible: they're two games back and play the Mavs twice more), or they need some help in the playoffs in the form of an upset of a higher-seeded foe.


How settled are the last four spots? A lot less than they looked on Sunday morning, let's put it that way. Denver, Memphis, New Orleans and Portland still hold the upper hand in the race for the final four spots in the West, but Houston's comeback win at New Orleans and Channing Frye's back-to-back game winners have reinserted some doubt into the proceedings.

Phoenix is now just a half-game behind Memphis for the final playoff spot and, unfathomably, is only two and a half out of fifth. Unfortunately, the Suns lose tiebreakers to both Portland and Memphis, which is why the playoff odds give them a slightly pessimistic 47.2 percent chance of cracking the top eight.

Houston, meanwhile, cannot be dismissed -- not with 12 home games remaining and Kevin Martin in blowtorch mode. In fact, tonight's game in Portland is sneaky-important. Right now the Rockets project to finish two games behind the Blazers, but if they swing this one into the win column, they'll project as nearly a dead heat.

Houston has already blown the tiebreaker against Portland, but a win would even its record at 31-31, with 12 of its final 20 games at home and four of the road games against bottom-seven teams. Win tonight, in other words, and it's pretty easy to see Houston landing at 43 or 44 wins and factoring into the conversation, which is why the playoff odds project a surprisingly rosy 29 percent chance even though the Rockets are three games off the pace. Houston also owns a tiebreak against Memphis and (with a win later this season) New Orleans.

Despite the fact that Memphis is in eighth right now, Portland and New Orleans may ultimately prove easier to catch. The Grizzlies have only eight road games left and are playing well, while the other two have more even schedules and more uneven recent results. Utah, meanwhile, is only a game back but fairly easily dismissed based on its recent play.

Nonetheless, the odds tilt in favor of Denver, New Orleans, Memphis and Portland being the four teams left standing when the dust settles, in that order. Just not nearly as strongly as they did a couple of days ago.


Who's the low seed everyone wants to avoid? Easy call: Memphis. The Grizzlies are a scary first-round opponent for several reasons. First, they're better than their record, having taken up permanent residency in the top 12 in the Power Rankings. Second, they're going to be better in the playoffs than they are now, once Rudy Gay comes back and Shane Battier is fully integrated; as an added plus, the mere fact they're not playing Hasheem Thabeet will likely help, too. Moreover, in a playoff series, FedEx Mausoleum might have some actual fans in it.

But the real reason to fear Memphis is its checklist of goodies that scares the West's top contenders. Take the Lakers, for instance. You think L.A. wants to have Memphis put Tony Allen on Kobe Bryant, or have Pau Gasol go up against a younger brother who knows all his tricks, or have Derek Fisher try to stay in front of Mike Conley?

Go right down the list and you'll see similar concerns. Dallas has nobody that can guard Rudy Gay or Zach Randolph, while Battier is a wild card the Griz can throw at Nowitzki; similarly, San Antonio is a big man short and lacks great answers for Gay. Oklahoma City, post-trade, matches up a little better -- it didn't have any answer for Randolph before getting Kendrick Perkins -- but I don't think anybody is excited to face this team.

Want proof? San Antonio played Memphis twice at home and barely won both; one went to OT. The Griz beat L.A. twice, one a 19-point beatdown in Staples, and have won two of their three meetings with both Dallas and Oklahoma City. Overall, against the West's top four they're 6-6, even though seven of the 12 games were on the road.

As I've written before, upsets in first-round series virtually never happen when the home-court team also won the season series; in at least three of the four matchups involving Memphis, that won't be the case. Sum it up and if there's a team to avoid, this is the one.
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Sounds like Kyrie Irving is out for the NCAA tournament. Harrison Barnes is having a very nice game, looks way better than he did at the beginning of the season. Still don't expect either to declare.
 

Blackace

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Branduil said:
I knew you'd come around on Love blackace.

I said I would eat crow if I were wrong! I have 3 Love Jersey that I were for breakfast luch and dinner everyDAY!

Well not really.. but I am man enough to say I was dead wrong!
 

Blackace

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dream said:
No lie, Knicks fan Frankman just changed my mind on All Star Kevin Love.

It's very important to have strong rebounders.

sigh..
 

Bishman

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Chicago @ Atlanta
Golden State @ Washington
San Antonio @ Cleveland
New Orleans @ New York
Phoenix @ Boston
Minnesota @ Detroit
Indiana @ Oklahoma City
Charlotte @ Denver
Portland @ Sacramento
Houston @ LA Clippers
 
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