Black Mamba
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Five games from a concussion from a McGee elbow does not make you frail.
I wouldn't trade the farm for him but he has a short contract and something to prove. A team could easily construct a smart trade for him.
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2013 Jan NBA Season lOT| Beautiful Black Bodies on Top
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Five games from a concussion from a McGee elbow does not make you frail.
I wouldn't trade the farm for him but he has a short contract and something to prove. A team could easily construct a smart trade for him.
i mean unless I'm mistaken, it was a little over a year ago they almost got Chris Paul for him.
I'm sure they could get a Danny Granger/Rudy Gay tier player. Some GM out there, somewhere is going to be dumb enough to take him. It's the Lakers, they always get what they want.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Pau for Gay would be interesting. Grizzlies would have to move Arthur and Speights for wing players so it will probably be too hard to execute to happen, but it would be interesting. Gay might be able to turn his athleticism into actual production that wins games as a small ball PF and Pau might be revitalized next to his brother.
Conflict NZ
Member
It was pretty clear he had those issues last season, they just never publicly announced it.
Well, he has been diminishing for a while now.
The guy should leave, and it would be best for both sides.
Pau's heart not there any more because of Antoni. That egotistic fuck has completely ruined whatever little chemistry this team has.
I don't want Pau traded, but he'll probably be much happier in a better team with a coach that's not an imbecile.
Barack Lesnar
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Im not sure how much i have left in the tank.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Is Zachary traded in this scenario? Because he's better than Pau at just about everything right now, and Pau ain't about that bench life.
I guarantee you its more than Kobe.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Bald Pippen is so weird.
No it wouldn't. Even if Memphis agrees to it, why would the Lakers want a guard that shoots 7-21? They already have one.
Black Mamba
Member
Both gasoline and zbo? Too much bigs. Not that id support a trade but Boston should make a run and try to have rondo, kg, pau together.
I agree
If we're not going to use pau right then I wa t him on a team he can be useful on.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
lakers have a lot left to tank.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I think Marc or Z-bo would be willing to come off the bench.
It won't happen, but it would be interesting to see the chemistry of the Gasols on the same team.
But not one with Jumpoutofthegym ability.
I don't think Z-bo, Pau, or Marc should be getting more than 32 MPG with Randolph and Pau's knee issues and Marc wearing out completely last year.
Then again, it probably wouldn't work in the playoffs when minutes are increased...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Well they seem like having designs to move Zbo sure they could get Granger for him
Psychological Intellect
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why the fuck would either come off the bench for Pau?
Conflict NZ
Member
I think I would still rather see Howard traded, he is not staying in LA and the Lakers are going to be fucked for the next 5-6 years if he leaves.
Ninja Scooter
Member
so much wrong in one post.
So trading Howard now for scraps would somehow prevent the Lakers from being "fucked for the next 5-6 years"?
When you offense is efficient, you defense is good. Also SVG actually cared about that end of the court. We give up so much in transition...
Black Mamba
Member
I was wondering about a granger for pau swap of some kind. Maybe josh smith to Indy and pau to Atlanta with granger in la. Not sure if there is a way to make it worth it for Indy.
Plus granger is out for another month.
Plus granger is out for another month.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Lakers are going to be fucked if he leaves or stays I reckon
Lolol
He's not going to give up $20 mil to leave. I do think LA would be better off trading him though. He's not a franchise player unless you have 3-4 elite shooters starting
Red Blaster
Member
Pacers aren't trading Granger, a good player for Pau, a bad player.
Maybe they'll give up Roy Hibbert
Maybe they'll give up Roy Hibbert
Why would Indy want Smith when they have West?
Conflict NZ
Member
If Howard leaves they are still left over the cap so they can't do anything next season except pay minimum to a bunch of scrubs. Once that season is a major bust which superstar is going to leave their team giving up $30 million to come and be under the enormous pressure of resurrecting the Lakers?
No, not really.
They still have the '14 first round pick. Nobody else would be on the book except Nash.
Just tank the next season and let Kobe score as much as he wants!
And trade Howard for picks.
Get off their nuts kerr we understand nash and d'antoni are your boys but get outta here with that shit. Lakers fans have seen this all season too late to act like they are disappointing now.
Black Mamba
Member
Which is why I said Atlanta would take pau and smith to Indy. Just brainstorming.
Pau and hibbert together make no sense. If they want to get out if hibbert's de send him to Atlanta for smith and west plus granger to lakers. Probably needs more though.
Ninja Scooter
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Howard staying or going has little effect. The plan is to clear cap room to reload in 2014/15 either way. Trading Howard now (for crap, which is pretty much what teams will offer for a rental of Dwight Howard) isn't going to have much bearing on the next 5-6 years of Lakers basketball.
I've been saying there is no need to trade Pau or Dwight. Ride this shit out. It's a shit show but that's what we get. No trade now is going to save this season, all it is going to do is make us add a shit contract going forward, like a re-upped Josh Smith or Rudy Gay. I still doubt Dwight will walk and leave money off the table anyway, but if he does then so be it. If we can miss the playoffs with him we can do it w/o him.
The fuck is wrong with Steve Kerr? He sounds like he just got dumped.
And Lakers may be better off getting rid of both Pau and Howard, and just starting over with cap space in 2014.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Nothing is generally a better option than a random something when a team is trying to win titles. Lakers without Dwight and with a more hobbled Kobe next year could be bad enough to be in the Wiggins sweepstakes while keeping cap space open which would help them out more long-term.
Black Mamba
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If they could trade Howard for picks and no extra salary past next season it could be worth it.
thats what im saying theyve been under .500 for like a month and he is just realizing they are disappointing. He is on some Heavy type shit
I'm sure a good few teams would be down for that.
They have to decide what they want this team to be.
You obviously can't have a core of Nash, Kobe, Pau, Dwight all on the floor.
I think Pau leaves in someway, he's not the big man Howard is. But they may keep him around just in case Dwight leaves in the summer.
That would be wise. Or trade for players whose contracts expire after '14
$9,701,000
This is how much guaranteed salary they have after '14.
Any trade will need to take that into consideration.
Black Mamba
Member
Best case would be duping a team to trade picks and no salary past '14 (unless solid rookie) which Dwight won't stay with and will get fucked over by.
Ninja Scooter
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Here's the problem with that: Teams that have cap space, that can absorb Dwight's contract without having to give back a bunch of shitty salary that the Lakers will take on, are probably shitty teams without much outlook this year, and without much change of resigning Dwight. Why exactly would those teams trade for him for the final 3 months of the season? Bad teams have nothing to gain. Good teams, on the other hand, would probably line up to trade for Dwight for a playoff run, but they are going to want to give back salary.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Sounds like Jim Nantz during the AFC championship game. More like he lost his best friend.
Do the Nets still have those picks that they gathered?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Nets will want us to take on Brook. No fucking thanks.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
i got front row/floor seats to tomorrow's clipper/OKC game.
suck it clippers-age.
suck it clippers-age.
Well, we're going to need a center, and he's better offensively than Howard, and would be cheaper, wouldn't he? With some picks, he may be worth it, and Lakers would still have plenty of cap space in 2014 with Pau and Kobe expiring to go after Love and someone else.
I just can't believe Nash is signed until the end of 2015. The amnesty is still available, right?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Literally better than every big on your roster.
Avon Barksdale
Member
Bald Pippen is so weird.
He looks like JB Smoove.
Wear a Kobe jersey