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All-New Press Previews of Final Fantasy XV's First 5 Chapters

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Blackleg-sanji1

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Solid Sora said:
LOL! you can order Prompto to take picture mid-fight!

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More here: http://www.4gamer.net/games/075/G007535/20161027115/
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Lmao!! Best bro does it again.
 
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Ralemont

not me
I could see Royal Arms being the "finisher" weapons, so to speak. Like when you expose an enemy vulnerability or temp knock them over or something, you whip the bad boy weapons out and go apesit, then heal and switch back when the enemy's on guard again.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Solid Sora said:
Not really. Not with destructible environments and not in this scale. I don't remember running away from a titanic hand that's destroying everything it touches including the actual path I'm running on in an open world RPG before. Even sandbox games like GTA V, which are much smaller in scale anyway, don't go this far in their set-pieces.

btw I'm sorry about my English, I know it's not very good. Hope my posts are not too difficult to read :p.
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Yes, plenty of open with destructible environment being the centerpiece of a set piece, we've seen open world games with entire sections of cities crumbling. Relatively speaking the hand isn't even that big and the set piece doesn't even last that long. What we're seeing her is pretty par for the course in terms of an action adventure game set piece, it's much bigger in scale than probably any JRPG ever though, but remember the RPG genre is rapidly changing when things like Horizon are classified as an RPG. Now if say they had you fight the full titan body instead of just a swinging arm then I'd be incredibly impressed. Need to see the other summon fights as they've still shown nothing comparable to the target render where the leviathan created a giant storm that destroys a city while Noctis fights and climbs his way to freedom.
 
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Socivol

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The 4gamer video made the Titan battle look significantly better than anything else we've seen. It looks much more dynamic than just dodging his arm.
 
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Aters

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Crossing Eden said:
Yes, plenty of open with destructible environment being the centerpiece of a set piece, we've seen open world games with entire sections of cities crumbling. Relatively speaking the hand isn't even that big and the set piece doesn't even last that long. What we're seeing her is pretty par for the course in terms of an action adventure game set piece, it's much bigger in scale than probably any JRPG ever though, but remember the RPG genre is rapidly changing when things like Horizon are classified as an RPG. Now if say they had you fight the full titan body instead of just a swinging arm then I'd be incredibly impressed. Need to see the other summon fights as they've still shown nothing comparable to the target render where the leviathan created a giant storm that destroys a city while Noctis fights and climbs his way to freedom.
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Game developers put their budget into different things. If we just compare FFXV to other open-word RPGs like Skyrim, TW3 or XBX, than yeah, the set-pieces are quite impressive. If we compare it to something like Just Cause 3, where the environment destruction is the meat and butter of the game, then it's not that impressive.
 
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The_Hitcher89

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Doesn't Prompto take pictures automatically sometimes?

Coulda sworn in that Eurogamer video that there were some combat shots when they were looking at the photos he'd taken.
 
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The Last One

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OrionX said:
I bet Lightning will be involved.
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Socivol said:
I don't think you battle him I think you get him the same way you did in the Duscae demo unfortunately.
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Philippo said:
I don't think he's going to have one.
Tabata said that not every summon will involve a fight, but there are other ways to obtain their favors, and i think Ramuh (and Shiva) might be that one.
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Oh right, you guys are probably right.

chandoog said:
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Oh boy, someone needs to photoshop the bro's heads in this gif.
 
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2San

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So I switched my pre-order from physical to digital so my brother can join into the fun as well (we account share). He normally only plays shooters, but he enjoyed Kingsglaive. That paying the full 70 euro's on PSN burns though.
 
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Ishida

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The Last One said:
I'm trying to picture Ramuh's battle.
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Speaking of which... I wonder just how many Summon battles are there. We know that you get Ramuh without fighting him.

Titan, we get to fight him.

Leviathan, who knows exactly how the scene will play. Fight? Evade attacks?

Carbuncle, we get it from the Platinum.

Odin? He's there on the Big Bang illustration, we don't know if he's in the game.

Bahamut? We BETTER fight him.

Ifrit, we clearly fight him.

Shiva? We don't know yet.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Aters said:
Game developers put their budget into different things. If we just compare FFXV to other open-word RPGs like Skyrim, TW3 or XBX, than yeah, the set-pieces are quite impressive. If we compare it to something like Just Cause 3, where the environment destruction is the meat and butter of the game, then it's not that impressive.
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Yea but there are plenty of open world games where set pieces aren't the meat and butter of the game, yet they're included anyway during key moments. With this gen of melding genres, what FFXV is doing, (in terms of how the set piece is designed), is becoming relatively more common. The aesthetic and context sticks out ofc due to it being a JRPG.
 
Simo

Simo

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The_Hitcher89 said:
Doesn't Prompto take pictures automatically sometimes?

Coulda sworn in that Eurogamer video that there were some combat shots when they were looking at the photos he'd taken.
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You can instruct him when to take them as he improves I believe. Jeremy Parish said he had unlocked the selfie option when he had leveled up enough Prompto's photography skills. lol
 
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Philippo

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Ishida said:
Speaking of which... I wonder just how many Summon battles are there. We know that you get Ramuh without fighting him.

Titan, we get to fight him.

Leviathan, who knows exactly how the scene will play. Fight? Evade attacks?

Carbuncle, we get it from the Platinum.

Odin? He's there on the Big Bang illustration, we don't know if he's in the game.

Bahamut? We BETTER fight him.

Ifrit, we clearly fight him.

Shiva? We don't know yet.
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imho:
We fight and then use Titan, Leviathan and Bahamut
We do quests for and then use Ramuh and Shiva (and i think one of the two might be optional if not both)
We only fight as a boss Ifrit
Then there's Carbuncle
And mayyyyyybe another one or two extra hidden summons like Odin and Doomtrain (both were pretty obviously in the Big Bang art so it would be weird for them not being in the game)
 
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Solid Sora

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Crossing Eden said:
Yes, plenty of open with destructible environment being the centerpiece of a set piece, we've seen open world games with entire sections of cities crumbling. Relatively speaking the hand isn't even that big and the set piece doesn't even last that long. What we're seeing her is pretty par for the course in terms of an action adventure game set piece, it's much bigger in scale than probably any JRPG ever though, but remember the RPG genre is rapidly changing when things like Horizon are classified as an RPG. Now if say they had you fight the full titan body instead of just a swinging arm then I'd be incredibly impressed. Need to see the other summon fights as they've still shown nothing comparable to the target render where the leviathan created a giant storm that destroys a city while Noctis fights and climbs his way to freedom.
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Yeah, Horizon looks super impressive. The thing is, when XV gets released, there's no RPGs in the market, Japanese or not, provides the same scale in set-pieces while still a seamless open world experience.

I mean the biggest three competitors as far as I know are:

Fallout 4: A game that have a loading screen every time you open a door, no set-pieces. No huge monsters.

Dragon Age Inquisition: Some decent set-pieces in the main quest, but not really an open-world game. It's a collection of huge level that you choose between in a menu. The biggest monsters it includes are the high dragons, which are pretty big, but not close to XV biggest monsters.

Witcher 3: Very seamless experience (regardless of dividing the world into three "levels"), but no set-pieces, and no huge monsters.

That's why I think what FFXV does here is new and impressive for open-world RPGs. Maybe I forgot something though, so feel free to correct me.

By the way, in a recent interview, Tabata mentioned that developing Titan took 5 months, but Leviathan took an entire year! I'm pretty hyped to see how the Leviathan fight will turn out :).

dragonzdogma said:
It would have worked better if prompto would take the shot 5 seconds later to give you some time to pose or whatever.
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I think that's actually how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=ospxyiPgdxo
 
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Son Of Sparda

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jschreier said:
No. It definitely feels like there's a scene missing. But I'm skeptical that the final build is going to add anything, based on what I've played. I'll check when I get final code, though.
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Hey man, since you are here I wonder if you would mind elaborating on your comment in regards to framerate a little bit? Like how bad the drops were to you? Platinum Demo bad, pre-patch Witcher 3 bad or post patch Witcher 3 bad?

I would really appreciate it if you could talk a little more about how framerate is and how frequent or noticeable the drops are.
 
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wmlk

Member
Kudos to Jason for answering some of these very specific questions. I know that the extremely enthusiast questions wouldn't typically be asked as much in your Q&A, so I'm happy you're willing to answer right in this thread.
 
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Neiteio

Member
Jeez, watching the 4gamer video, I'm nearly positive you can dodge the titan's punches with phasing, but the player never tries.
 
LordKasual

LordKasual

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The FFXV large setpiece battles (of which we've only seen titan so far) aren't exactly new, but the fact that they exist in an open world is why they're so neat.

In God of War 3 for example, the scale of giant setpiece battles are limited only to that specific setpiece. But in FFXV, at least judging from Ramuh, the flying car, and the height you can get to in the Platinum Demo citadel, the scale exists everywhere. So it's not unreasonable from a technical level to be running around in a city, then fight a giant boss in that city that uses the city as a setpiece. It is pretty impressive. I'm really wondering how far they'll take it. But if the hand is all there is to the Titan fight, i'm really not that surprised.

Being able to fighting an unrestrained Titan himself not only wouldn't make sense in the plot of the story (seeing as summoned titan is RUNNING and throwing boulders), but would be really hard to actually do. This isn't Kingdom Hearts, Noctis WILL die if he falls too far, he can't fly, and aerial attacks aren't free of resources.

They COULD do that kind of fight, where it's just tiny Noctis vs. a creature the size of Titan. But i imagine it would require the player to have mastered warp points and resource management.


guess we'll see in a few weeks with Adamantoise.
 
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DrBretto

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Son Of Sparda said:
Hey man, since you are here I wonder if you would mind elaborating on your comment in regards to framerate a little bit? Like how bad the drops were to you? Platinum Demo bad, pre-patch Witcher 3 bad or post patch Witcher 3 bad?

I would really appreciate it if you could talk a little more about how framerate is and how frequent or noticeable the drops are.
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You're posting in a thread that's flooded with links to videos of this from all over. You can see the framerate for yourself. I understand they're youtube videos and are subject to a bit of compression, but if it's looking smooth on youtube, it'd mean it's looking at least as smooth on the original.
 
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