I agree with this... there's not living up to your full potential i.e. Coven, then there's just flat out bad television i.e. Dexter S8 or Hostages.
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AMERICAN HORROR STORY: Coven |OT| When witches don't fight, we burn....
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
disappointed at the show's take on Legba, specially when they've done the voodoo stuff relatively well.
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Fenderputty
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My wife's list is 1 > 3 > 2. She's was too creeped out by the second season. I'm like, "isn't that the point?"
I would be fine with everyone but Myrtle and Cordelia dying.
I would be fine with everyone but Myrtle and Cordelia dying.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
He was a warlock.
I don't like the Sharkeisha video as I don't condone violence, but damn. 😈
Oh Tumblr.
lol
RatskyWatsky
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HP_Wuvcraft
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Murder House was easily the weakest. They were still finding their sea legs.
RatskyWatsky
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I thought most of the season was pretty good while watching it, but when I realized I was watching the second to last episode already, the pacing felt really off. The witch hunter thing gets established fairly late and resolved really quickly. The Luke subplot didn't really go anywhere and watching the "attack dog" slooowly get less mentally challenged wasn't very compelling. I also agree that death has been cheapened quite a bit with everyone coming back and ghosts seemingly doing as they please. There was a lot of potential and I looked forward to some of it still manifesting, but I doubt the one episode left is going to feel very satisfactory.
dead souls
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The only way to salvage this season would be if Dylan McDermott shows up and announces he is the next supreme while crysturbating.
My guess is Cordelia is the true supreme after discovering her true potential super late. But I think Fiona also just charmed the vision of her death so she can come back and wipe everybody out. Still hoping for a Buffy Potentials twist where they make everyone a Supreme in the end.
Watch, in a cruel twist, Myrtle is the new Supreme.
Watch, in a cruel twist, Myrtle is the new Supreme.
Scalemail Ted
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An actual Buffy twist would be the best. Hire Sarah Michelle Gellar to essentially come in and stake everybody in the last episode.
Napoleonthechimp
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That dog was so god damn weird, but I have a special place in my heart for canines so I'd be compelled to show it nothing but love.
Weapxn
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Maybe she was the real Supreme all along.
I kid.
On one hand, I agree. On the other, look at how many of them have gotten critical acclaim for their performances, if not awards/nominations.
Matt_
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Yeah I guess that is true. The overall story may be sloppily written but at least the characters in it are fairly unique
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
Exactly. It gives them something new to do each season
even though Lange acts the same every fucking year IMO
That smack down between Misty and Madison was brutal too bad they stopped Misty. Madison ugh Emma Roberts did a good job making me hate her character lol
I really wanted to like this season but it's a mess. When the witch hunters came along I thought it'd be some huge epic fight but the show did nothing with it.
The pacing is what is driving me crazy. Now at the final episode they decide to test for the supreme? They should have done it sooner so we could at least see some fallout from that. I don't know maybe I'm just rambling.
Myrtle is the best I'd watch her in a one woman show.
I really wanted to like this season but it's a mess. When the witch hunters came along I thought it'd be some huge epic fight but the show did nothing with it.
The pacing is what is driving me crazy. Now at the final episode they decide to test for the supreme? They should have done it sooner so we could at least see some fallout from that. I don't know maybe I'm just rambling.
Myrtle is the best I'd watch her in a one woman show.
RatskyWatsky
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Lange was so great as both Constance and Jude because those were two of the richest characters from their respective seasons and Murphy gave her a lot of great material to chew through. Fiona, on the other hand, hasn't had material anywhere near as rich, so Lange's performance has really suffered as a result.
God, can you imagine how Evan Peters feels?
Nemesis_
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Lily Rabe was interviewed by Rolling Stone. It's very short.
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...und-success-on-american-horror-story-20140122
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...und-success-on-american-horror-story-20140122
RatskyWatsky
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Yeah, that was her.
I was curious about that. I thought I missed something.
KibblesBits
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Fiona having no soul is a reflection of the long list of choices that she has made which have taken her to where she is now. It's not via magic, or any occult acts taking her soul, it is literally via her losing her humanity and compassion. Or at least it should be.
She is reviled, she is awful. Sure she has some redeeming qualities, but overall she is horrid.
She is reviled, she is awful. Sure she has some redeeming qualities, but overall she is horrid.
umop_3pisdn
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Yeah, I thought it was just a way of saying that she already crossed over the moral event horizon. Like when you look at her relationship with Cordelia, in one moment she apparently treasures the relationship or laments how she was a bad mother, and in the next she's perfectly fine with killing her. This happens a lot and she never really any revelation. She's never going to change.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Except they went through all the trouble of having her call up Papa and he gets his dramatic "You have no SOUL" muahahaha moment... and this is directly after hearing the story of selling a soul and all that. To me it was not nearly as cerebral and intelligent as to imply "Her decisions and actions through out her long lived and dark life have stripped the humanity from her existence which has in turn rendered her soul null and void." ... like honestly... i don't think this season of AHS has the chops to do something that thought provoking.
I'm putting money on McDermitt being either Satan himself (with Fiona's soul in tow) or the secret big bad daddy witch who shows up at the very end of the last episode and is fucking awesome for all of 5 minutes before they cut away to aliens smoking a hookah made of frankenkyles skull or some retarded shit.
I've tried so hard. I even STILL like this season more than two but honestly... i might be over and out of this series after this season. You had 3 tries to make something that had cohesion through an entire run or at the very least some compelling storytelling/character development... and for 3 seasons it's just been this meandering mess. I'm starting to think they just sit down ahead of time and write down as many tropes and tall tales and junior league intern shit house ideas and then veto NOTHING and just shove every scrap of an idea that has anything to do with their "theme" into the season. no matter the disruption to the main story or counter-productive ideas it introduces to already established things from previous episodes.
I give season 2 so much shit for so many (quality) reasons ...but at least Lange had a dance number.
Nemesis_
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Interesting user poll on who everyone thinks is the next supreme. It's about 700 votes, and I think it's an interesting reflection on what the viewership believes.
I agree with them, I think it might be Cordelia. But for some reason she was always suppressed (her upbringing was so shit, at least, in her eyes) and she was always living in her moths shadow.
Or Fiona somehow charmed the Axeman to give off that "vision" to Cordelia, and she returns and kills them all anyway. She runs off with her newest toy boy (played by Dylan McDermott) [>_>] to the Greek Islands and leaves them all behind. >_>
Or I think that there is more to
I agree with them, I think it might be Cordelia. But for some reason she was always suppressed (her upbringing was so shit, at least, in her eyes) and she was always living in her moths shadow.
Or Fiona somehow charmed the Axeman to give off that "vision" to Cordelia, and she returns and kills them all anyway. She runs off with her newest toy boy (played by Dylan McDermott) [>_>] to the Greek Islands and leaves them all behind. >_>
Or I think that there is more to
Myrtle than we think. The way she wanted Zoe to leave the area was a bit weird to me. But Mytle IS weird, so she's hard to read.
The show sort of fell apart for me when they introduced the Ax Man, but almost pulled itself back together with the Witch Hunter inclusion. Then they just wrapped that up so quick that it almost didn't matter. I'm still enjoying the performances but my attachment to the characters has suffered a great deal.
Nemesis_
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The only way I could properly imagine it is that somehow she was unworthy in her first life (ie. prior to her burning) and somehow she's more powerful than ever before after being burnt.
She does harp on a lot about what she saw in the flames and what not, I wouldn't be too surprised tbh. It's the most unpredictable choice, I reckon.
Matt_
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Oh. Now you've got me second guessing.
I can't help but feel all these theories are going to waste as they're just going to pick zoe
Nemesis_
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If they pick Zoe I will rage quit life.
If you consider it, she has demonstrated the least amount of the seven wonders.
pock3tmonster
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There is much evidence to support Zoe's supremacy, having potentially demonstrated at least four of the Seven Wonders; nearly as many as Madison. She may have manifested Pyrokinesis as early as the first episode. When she thought she was going to be stabbed by the other girls, the candle flames reacted. Outside of Misty, Zoe was the first of the witches to be able to bring life back to the dead (Resurgence), resurrecting Kyle when spells failed. She subconsciously undid Marie Laveau's voodoo magic, returning her zombies to their original lifeless state (Vitalum Vitalis) and casting her to the ground. Whatever she did was enough to surprise Marie Laveau; who claimed the witches have some real power in the Academy (now). Zoe also subconsciously chose the right book to expel the Axe Man's ghost, having being unknowingly led to the Ouija Board that both summoned him and revealed Madison's fate in the same episode. Finally, she has demonstrated Telekinesis, summoning a knife to stab the Axe Man in the penultimate episode.
Arguably, it would be fitting to close with Zoe's ascension to supremacy. She has championed the coven and tried the hardest to unite the witches. The series opened with Fiona's sickness and the first manifestation of Zoe's power. When Zoe arrived at the Academy, the others appeared to have been living there for some time before her arrival, increasing the chances that she was responsible for instigating Fiona's illness. There has certainly been enough foreshadowing for it not to come left field.
pock3tmonster
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BertramCooper
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I pretty much knew it was going to be wretched when Murphy started talking about how it was much more lighthearted and comedic than Asylum and how it was about girl power and racism.
Ugh.
season 2 is the best and it has nothing in common with s1 except actors.
Insane Metal
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Agreed completely!
Kitschkraft
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For me, the biggest evidence of Zoe being the Supreme is simply how the show has been presented. You kinda touched on this in the second paragraph. Looking at the season as a whole...it seems like Zoe was the one we were originally supposed to "relate" the most to (Which is hard, because Taissa is the worst actor on the show).
She was clearly the "main young witch" for the first couple of episodes. Her arc was like...Rogue in the first X-Men movie lol. At first I thought this was going to be *her* season, but they kinda dropped her after Frankenkyle moved in.
Actually, this point is really emblematic of how this season has been as a whole : Inconsistent. Hell, Queenie seemed to be the focus of the penultimate episode.
Of course, even if this was a consistent season, with a clear "coming of age" story revolving around Zoe, they still could have given a curve ball, so who knows.
Zoe is the clear "safe" pick.
Madison...she's powerful but I just kinda feel like that well has run dry. They already went through a "Madison is next" storyline.
Misty had a spark when she started but now...she doesn't seem particularly above the other girls like she did when she first showed up. Everyone and their mother is resurrecting people and coming back from the dead now.
Queenie is powerful but I feel like her arc was completed in the last episode.
I personally think it's more likely to be some sort of fukkery that results in Fiona coming back or Cordelia becoming the Supreme or everyone going to hell or *something*. I'll be really disappointed if the finale is just some bullshit gameshow type of thing.
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