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AMERICAN HORROR STORY: Coven |OT| When witches don't fight, we burn....

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Matt_

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Cordelia's eyes aren't necessarily gone btw. The witches can transplant some more :shrug:

Why would she transplant more in if she just got rid of her transplants? She values the true sight over actual sight due to the situation.
Although saying that at the end of the series, when Fiona, Madison and anyone else that seems to be rampagey will end up being killed off I think Cordelia and the next supreme (zoe) will probably start to rebuild which is when Cordelia will get some new eyes.
 

Ekdrm2d1

Member
I mean where's she gonna get more eyes? She's not the type to kill innocents. Now if she plucked out her moms eyes ... That would be rad.

The morgue, or her witch friends can kill somebody, or they go rob a medical storage facility. Or with all the powers, they might be able to create them from scratch ha

But yeah, I understand. She did it to herself this time, doubt she wants them anyway.
 
That's disappointing to hear.
1950
is too similar to the time periods that they explored in
Asylum.
They did modern day in all three seasons with the first season touching on numerous decades; the 1950's are one of the few time spots they hadn't hit in the 1900's. Depends all on execution. Im curious what route they will go. With rumors of shooting location possibly being Santa fe they could go down the aliens route since in the 1950's there were a number of controversial alien sightings in southwestern America during that time such as in Roswell and Albuquerque. They could also go with the red scare with Russians and communists. The whole Jessica Lange practicing a German accent throws things off and hints towards escaped Nazi criminals but those themes kinda are a bit too similar to Asylum.

I don't get what the huge deal was with Zoey running away with Kyle
they showed in the preview for the next episode she is back anyway. I'm predicting at the start of next episode as the bus is taking off Madison flips it and kills Kyle and most of the passengers but Zoey survives.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
"Ah yes, figs are mother nature's brown diamonds. In the fall the rotting leaves smell like an olympian's ejaculate."

"How dare you be so unromantic!"

Myrtle is so deliciously over the top. *swoon*

That was a better episode than last week's, though I'm still tired of characters being resurrected from the dead every week and gaining 50 new powers every time they wake up in the morning.

I also thought it sucked that the witch hunter storyline ended the way it did. How disappointing - yet another storyline that didn't amount to shit.

Sweet so we get a mad men American horror.

Mad Men is set in the 60s, not the 50s. Also, please don't ever mention those two shows in the same sentence again. >__<

They did modern day in all three seasons with the first season touching on numerous decades; the 1950's are one of the few time spots they hadn't hit in the 1900's.

Exactly. They've already done the 60s and flashes of 30s, 40s, etc. so why go back to an era that is so similar?

Im curious what route they will go. With rumors of shooting location possibly being Santa fe they could go down the aliens route since in the 1950's there were a number of controversial alien sightings in southwestern America during that time such as in Roswell and Albuquerque. They could also go with the red scare with Russians and communists. The whole Jessica Lange practicing a German accent throws things off and hints towards escaped Nazi criminals but those themes kinda are a bit too similar to Asylum.

I'm really curious too. Right now it seems as though it's going to be a sci fi western with a circus setting set in the 1950s? That...could be really fucking amazing.
 

Wozzly

special needs, sexual needs
I was really excited for this season because of the subject matter of witchcraft and what not but ugh the season blows. The witch hunters never once created any sense of panic. And they keep bringing back characters for what? So they can disappear again? Misty has returned how many times?

And Kyle....what is his purpose?

Myrtle is the best thing this season hands down.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I'm gonna guess that Madison will kill kyle because he ran off with Zoe, either from just being angry at him or he tried to protect zoe, then Zoe will end up killing of her. It's pretty clear that Madison won't stand for being second best to nobody and even if she didn't feel anything for Kyle she won't like loosing him at all.
Kyle's sole reason to exist is to create a love triangle that media/teens seem to love, it's just been sloppily handled
 

inm8num2

Member
I didn't even realize there were only 2 episodes left. This season can best be described as a hugely entertaining mess.

Fixed to reflect my opinion. :p

It's not been terrible, but I just haven't cared about any of the characters. Last season I cared about Lana or Kit. Maybe I haven't paid enough attention this season, though. Other than finding out who the Supreme is, there just hasn't been a reason for me to care about what happens to anybody.
 
I've been thinking that everyone keeps gaining powers because the cycle of the next supreme keeps getting interrupted and the witch hunter kept killing off all the other witches.

Since I'm also watching The Originals (which is completely unrelated, but also deals with witches), it leads me to think that that power has to go somewhere, so it divvies itself up between the remaining witches or something. That is why they are all looking like they could be Supremes, and maybe they all get close enough that there isn't just 1 supreme anymore.

As far as the Witch hunter storyline not going anywhere, it didn't pan out like we would have wanted, but it led to bringing witchcraft and voodoo under the same roof. it united 2 sworn enemies, so we will have to see what happens with that.

And this season may be a mess, but it is far more coherent that whatever was going on last season in that Asylum.
 

Bladenic

Member
Besides the aliens, Asylum was pretty coherent and at least had well planned and executed arcs. Practically nothing here has been well executed and certainly did not seem well planned.

I still love it, but again, because it's very entertaining regardless. Objectively looking at things that make a good TV show, Coven is quite worse than Asylum. Better than Murder House though, IMO.
 
Besides the aliens, Asylum was pretty coherent and at least had well planned and executed arcs. Practically nothing here has been well executed and certainly did not seem well planned.

I loved the Aliens for how unexplained it was, just this through line that happened to intersect through the path of the incredibly indulgent Asylum story.
 

Nemesis_

Member
I wonder why this season turned out so less structured than the previous ones.

Too many characters, but I can't really say that I blame the writers. They had so many cast members signed on that they had to try to make the most of each of them. I can understand, I mean, how often would one get to work with Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Patti Lupone and all the supporting cast (including guests like Christine Ebersole, Leslie Jordan, Mare Winningham etc.).

They really should've focused the storyline down - removed Taissa and Kyle (seriously, what do they do this entire series? Taissa was a red herring for supreme but it's increasingly obvious that she isn't).

Heck I wouldn't have been angry if they dropped Queenie and Nan and expanded Joan a bit more. Joan was obviously meant for more in the series (Ryan himself said he wanted her to do more episodes) so they kind of rushed her to death.

Asylum had roughly eight members in it's main cast, with around six that get their own guest arcs throughout the series.

Coven has nine members in it's main cast, with around three guest members who are more or less main cast anyway, and roughly five more guest characters that popped up at random intervals.

It's just too crowded.

I won't lie, I've loved every minute of it, but I did enjoy Asylum the most out of the three thus far.

Besides the aliens, Asylum was pretty coherent and at least had well planned and executed arcs. Practically nothing here has been well executed and certainly did not seem well planned.

I still love it, but again, because it's very entertaining regardless. Objectively looking at things that make a good TV show, Coven is quite worse than Asylum. Better than Murder House though, IMO.

I honestly felt like the aliens belonged in Asylum, but the more I think about it the whole idea of invasion literature and what not was much more prominent the decade prior.

.....which is exactly why I think they're teasing aliens right now for the season 4. It just fits the era, it was only touched upon in Asylum and they have a better opportunity to explain it a bit better too.

Heck, we might finally get our first series that remotely ties into a previous or future one. Using the aliens as a link between series could be a thing.
 

Bloodrage

Banned
Shit's gettin gud

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Velcro Fly

Member
So basically
Kyle is going to kill Zoe, she's going to come back, and will be the next supreme.

I personally feel like
Cordelia should be the next surpreme. Her nurturing love and kindness has probably done more to help the rest of them grow than anything.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Need more Papa Legba in this season.

Not gonna happen since this coming week is the last episode of the season.

And frankly, this episode shows the problem the series/AHS has had for the past three seasons now: They put too many stories into season to where it can't stand on one season alone.

Frankly, I find Finoa's end poor. Cordellia enrages the Axeman and shows he's really being duped and... he kills her with no fight from Finoa? Really?
 
Not gonna happen since this coming week is the last episode of the season.

And frankly, this episode shows the problem the series/AHS has had for the past three seasons now: They put too many stories into season to where it can't stand on one season alone.

Frankly, I find Finoa's end poor. Cordellia enrages the Axeman and shows he's really being duped and... he kills her with no fight from Finoa? Really?

So Fiona gets taken out by a minor freaking character? What a joke.

We still have an episode left.
I'm still thinking this is an elaborate ruse.

And it's not going to play out properly.
 
Not gonna happen since this coming week is the last episode of the season.

And frankly, this episode shows the problem the series/AHS has had for the past three seasons now: They put too many stories into season to where it can't stand on one season alone.

Frankly, I find Finoa's end poor. Cordellia enrages the Axeman and shows he's really being duped and... he kills her with no fight from Finoa? Really?

Yea I basically meant "needed more". Totally agree though. I also have no idea if I'm to believe that some of the things that happened are the end for some characters. They had a knack for resurrecting every damn character this season.

Again, I felt the Fiona scene was ridiculous considering she's always one step ahead and is so damn powerful yet she never thinks to use her powers on him? Come on!
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
We still have an episode left.
I'm still thinking this is an elaborate ruse.

And it's not going to play out properly.

If they bring Fiona back to be "SURPRISE BITCHES, I'M BACK FROM THE DEAD AND THE ULTIMA-SUPA-DUPA-SUPREME. *rocks fall everyone but her dies*" series and show truly jumps the shark and I'm done with the exception of Lange's last season/next season.

The writers NEED to focus on one plot-point. They can add meta-plots to that plotpoint on a per-episode basis, but this series has had too many fingers in too many pies that are either cold or barely warm (not even luke-warm!) to where it isn't worth cutting those pies to eat.

What's funny is that Asylum showed the series has promise. If they had focused less on Lange's nun's backstory there (which while interesting wasn't really needed for the whole story at the end with that last episode) it'd have been fine, for instance. Lange's nun would've still decended into madness due to Rabe's devil-possessed-nun breaking her. The priest could've been done away with and left the Nazi Scientist to contend between both nuns with the aliens having a bigger focus (since they were so throw away outside of bringing characters back from the dead: OH HEY RABE'S/LILY IS DOING THAT THING THIS SEASON!)
 

Velcro Fly

Member
Asylum was way worse with too many plot points.

This season doesn't even hardly feel like half of last season's plot points. And they've probably done a much better job of ending those plot points than anything. Last season was a giant clusterfuck the last few episodes and it was really awful. I don't know how anyone enjoyed Asylum at the end.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
The show always sets up a great plot an atmosphere, and by midway through a season you don't see it climaxing properly, and then bam it's over. I always seem to like the first 4 episodes the best.

But I did find it hilarious how that axe was that person's end. All of that build up and then AXE BITCH.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Asylum was way worse with too many plot points.

Caught before my edit, but I'll post it again since new post: What's funny is that Asylum showed the series has promise. If they had focused less on Lange's nun's backstory there (which while interesting wasn't really needed for the whole story at the end with that last episode) it'd have been fine, for instance. Lange's nun would've still decended into madness due to Rabe's devil-possessed-nun breaking her. The priest could've been done away with and left the Nazi Scientist to contend between both nuns with the aliens having a bigger focus (since they were so throw away outside of bringing characters back from the dead: OH HEY RABE'S/LILY IS DOING THAT THING THIS SEASON!)

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I won't say Asylum wasn't a hot mess, because it was. But it was SUPREMELY better at at least finishing it's plot-points (having the Nazi Scientist die, Lana escaping and shutting down the Asylum only to have her horror come back at her. Lange decending into madness/retribution for the horrors she did on some of the less-horrible patients in her care...) whereas the summary of this season is: Everyone dies, comes back. We don't really have a successor if it isn't all of us! lol!

The show always sets up a great plot an atmosphere, and by midway through a season you don't see it climaxing properly, and then bam it's over. I always seem to like the first 4 episodes the best.

Same, I was sooooo hyped for this season because a witches school sounded so good on paper. The promos were hot as hell and that three women/snake promo poster gave me wood
so did the Lange in the middle of all the other characters in Asylum. Whoever does AHS' promo art needs a raise and be hired for more TV show promos. Goddamn I love these posters.
. But the season has just been very poor in executing on that potential. :(

I really hope Fiona doesn't come back, despite really wanting her to triumph in the end and kill the entire convent in selfish pride and rage for not really wanting to be witch--at least that's the feeling I get on her and her feelings toward the supreme. The only thing she wants is eternal life so she can be selfish and indulgent forever.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Asylum> Murder House>Coven

Started promising but in the end it had no focus or proper development of events.
 
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