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Anyone looking closely at the situation of COVID-19 in India? It's absolutely devastating
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TheContact
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The sad part is they were doing well too until they got complacent with summer weddings and such. They’re also the worlds largest vaccine producer so it makes little sense as to why they don’t have good logistics for distributing it amongst their own population
EverydayBeast
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What would you suggest to India? Eventually you can have a nice life in India, they have to figure it out. 1B people doesn’t have to be India’s identity, they have to shift from being anti, mask, vaccines to OK being healthy makes other people happy.
DeepBreath87
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Imagine trying to do logistics for 1.36 billion people. Many many being extremely poor and packed into slums. I just can’t imagine trying to do that. Especially when you aren’t an authoritarian, top down control society like China.
FunkMiller
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What exactly is fear porn about the news coming out of India?
Hatemachine
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I'm sorry but the anime avatar makes it impossible to take anything he's saying here seriously.
CloudNull
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Just the fact that there needs to be another thread on this. Not enough people in the main thread partaking in the fear porn so lets create another. It is also a general observation of the current state of the world. There are tons of people who are afraid that life is slowly returning to a normalish baseline. It is clown world.
The on the ground accounts sound terrible and I feel for India but as the stats show it is not an end of the world scenario. It was the same thing as the media said this winter. They made a big deal that hospitals were at capacity but they forgot to mention that it happens every year with the flu. I am not saying Covid is the flu, just pointing out that the media does not have a good track record as of late.
sackings
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People dont work outside, and the darker your skin the less you absorb. It's a worldwide issue, not just in India. People just aren't out working the fields anymore. People spend less than 10% of their time outside.
The Gorby Congressmanz
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Poor areas are the hardest hit, and India basically has no infrastructure in those areas so it's going to be extremely hard to really deal with the problem as those hotspots spread outward and make new hotspots in other areas. This happened with other illnesses in India like the flu and other spreadable illnesses, which was never really solved, so if they do reach a point of controlling it (not sure if they can actually stomp it) the question is will they hold that infrastructure up or will they just neglect it over time because country basically abandons the poor regions and this flares about again, or something else flares up, a few ears from now?
India has gotten away with no plan and bad mechanics for years, now it's starting to backfire. It's a sad situation but with other countries helping maybe the government can get it done.
India has gotten away with no plan and bad mechanics for years, now it's starting to backfire. It's a sad situation but with other countries helping maybe the government can get it done.
TheContact
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there are legitimate scientific benefits related to vitamin D and covid so the forum doctors are right about this, likely due to just common sense though
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ThatStupidLion
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I think china is/was (at least rural china) in a similar scenario, but of course.... china gonna china
AgentP
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I call BS. I'd love to see your data on seasonal Flu vs COVID 19. I've never heard of ICUs running out of space in major cities due to the Flu. India is having a real catastrophe, your reality denying not change that fact. Don't like the topic, skip it and don't post. Your reply was pure politics, which was banned for a reason.
xellos2099alpha
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It is no where near summer yet
CloudNull
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It happens almost every year and there are tons of links in the original covid thread.
I never denied what is happening in India just the media narrative. I don't trust them to do honest reporting just like they never honestly covered covid here. It is to early in the outbreak to know just how bad this really is. The media told us Florida and Texas would be like India but that has not happened.
When you boil down the hard numbers Covid has a 99% survival rate. When you break the data down by age groups it gets worse but still 94% for people over 80 I believe.... I stopped following everything a while back so the data could be wrong.
DeepBreath87
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Stop whining. The flu does stress normal ICU capacity some years in some regions. Covid has been worse. But your ignorance about hospital capacities is your problem. There’s nothing political in that post at all. Stop asking for the manager for fucks sake.
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FunkMiller
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So, fear porn is pretty much just reports about how bad Covid is?
And I think you‘re a bit clueless if you think whats happening in India happens every year with flu. They don’t handle flu well either, due to poor infrastructure, but this is much worse, much faster - hence the calls for international assistance.
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CloudNull
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At this point yeah it is. The media has already proven by their own admission they had the death counter on the screen to drive ratings. Logic is has long gone out the window with this whole thing.
You are taking my point out of context. I was using it to make an argument that the media will push whatever gets the clicks not equating what is happening in India as the same as the flu. I am not marginalizing what is happening in India but context matters.
I had no idea 27000 people die a day in India. This number alone is horrific but I am sure a when broken down into subsets of data you can argue most are normal deaths because of the massive population. I read an article today that stated 4 out of 15 people with Covid need medical attention in India but most go to the hospital because they are uninformed. All of these details matter when trying to figure out exactly how bad the situation is.
Silent Viper
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Retarded joke. Hope you don't have to see such loss in your country or around you.
Sad to see people born in rich and privileged countries make such shitty jokes about people living in developing countries or poorer countries. Pathetic mentality.
Mohonky
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No one should be.
Incredibly large population, densely packed, poor, lack of available hygiene and basic medical needs.
Perfect conditions for a run away virus.
Silent Viper
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Based on reports by media and experts, Covid cases came down drastically in India and country was well on its way of recovery but dumb government allowed mass gatherings during festival season and election rallies resulted in massive spread of covid again and at much faster rate and on top it got mixed and mutated with new UK variant as people from UK was freely coming to country without restrictions
Silent Viper
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Then how America, China and Brazil had such massive covid cases?
This virus is contagious and travel and stays in air for long. Even people living in most hygiene and clean places can spread it rapidly.
People dying from diseases are common in Poor countries including India but nothing like this ever happened at this rate.
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Mohonky
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You're assuming they even have the available testing.
The virus pretty well fucked most countries, but as you said, poor nations are going to experience it on a whole different level and it shouldnt be surprising.
Given how poor parts of India are, the figures are likely just scraping the surface at best and likely only ever have scraped the surface.
Lanrutcon
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crazepharmacist
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Did they not get the vaccine in India?
TheContact
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doesn’t summer in India start in like March? It’s 80+F there atm
Hawking Radiation
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Hawking Radiation
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HOLY SHIT
ParanoidAndroidz
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Thats SlimySnake opinion is he a fucking medical doctor or scientist? probably not. You cant just throw out there's a new variant that isn't protected by the vaccine without some science to back it up, this posts just adds to misinformation and confusion.
DeepBreath87
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The lead scientist for Pfizer says he is confident their vaccine is effective. He says the mutations in the Indian double variant are not dissimilar from other variants that the vaccine is effective against.
Indian COVID variant detected in at least seven European nations: ECDC
According to data obtained by Euronews from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), the B.1.617 variant has been detected in seven European countries.
ChanerRedone
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You're delusional if you don't realize the covid deaths are being severely underreported.
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macfoshizzle
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I'm not sure if this has been answered from the 2 pages of this, what is causing these surge of deaths? There was this big thing how India with their diet, climate, etc was highly regarded with low COVID deaths.. So WTF?
ChanerRedone
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It's likely the result of a more contagious (possibly also more deadly) variant and a complacent government. Modi told people to celebrate religious holidays, and millions of people from all over India gathered along the Ganges river for this.
I have heard doctors from Indian hospitals saying about half patients admitted for covid are under 40. This did not occur last year in India. The vast majority of patients last year were elderly.
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GHG
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Over a year on and we've still got people doing this nonsense?
People never learn I guess... Here we go again.
It's a mutated strain that is much more potent and the country were unprepared for it because they thought covid was "over".
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xellos2099alpha
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I was under the impression being outdoor is consider "safe"
xellos2099alpha
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Good point but this is what worry about us and other country. Government is dropping its guard before the war is over.
GHG
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Not in a country that is densely populated.
ChanerRedone
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xellos2099alpha
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ChanerRedone
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A new strain isn't going to spread itself through empty streets. It's most likely both. Both factors are probably essential to its spreading.
GHG
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Yeh the strain they are dealing with is the coming together of two previously already mutated strains.
I hate to say it, but the current international response and general attitude towards this reminds me of the response when the reports of covid in China were first starting to surface last year.
From where I'm sitting, it looks like it's no joke.
Vicetrailia
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CloudNull
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I had look up optional defiance disorder because I assumed it was made up. Shit sounds like it’s straight out of 1984.
Orutisu Furio
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Official numbers say ~3,000 deaths per day but I'm pretty sure it's MUCH higher.
You have to keep in mind this is the country where people drink out of the same river they urinate and defecate in, bathe, and bury their dead — along with the disposal of trash. Watch some videos on YouTube, it’s shocking.
It would be shocking if Covid DIDN’T blow up in India.
carlosrox
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You don't say.
Torrent of Pork
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I've got a buddy of mine who's now at the point where he's claiming an inability to secure an appointment for vaccination, because he knows the vaccine will take away his ability to virtue signal about his current NEET status. Nobody's buying your bullshit about "staying home to protect people" anymore buddy, you're just an unemployed loser in your mid 30's mooching off your parents.
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