I wanna get that freeze DLC I never got and play that instead but at the same time don't wanna buy WB stuff
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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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I wanna get that freeze DLC I never got and play that instead but at the same time don't wanna buy WB stuff
GHG
Member
Ok well if that's the case then why were no pc copies sent out prior to release for reviewers?
Why didn't they come clean and say certain things aren't working?
Why didn't they delay the pc game till they could get their shit together?
I can't believe you are questioning whether they "deserve" it after screwing consumers to the tune of millions of dollars.
Poor nvidia/rocksteady, please have pity on them, the innocent bystanders in this shit storm.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Just respond directly to someone saying that instead of saying "you guys." You'll only get responses from people who aren't saying or thinking that.
And whether it was purposefully or consciously done, it's still false advertising. Does it matter if the intent was malicious or if it was due to negligence? People bought the game based on promotional material, previews and even reviews (of the console versions), but the state of the actual product apparently never saw the light of day until today.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Wait, are people not getting those effects in game?
GHG
Member
Go on then... Pick it apart line by line.
I've even done you a favor and formatted it perfectly for you to do so.
truestatic
Member
There's no option for motion blur, chromatic aberration, or film grain either. They're just there. Couldn't AO have been intended to be the same?
Out of curiousity, are these the rain stuff that everyone is saying is missing from their game, or is it something else?
Self_Destructive
Member
He's not defending the quality of the port, just suggesting that missing graphical effects are more likely to be unintentional.
Any PC game typically does have a AO on/off switch as it can be a performance hit on low end compared with grain or CA. It's one of the most obvious things to make an option for. So no, I don't think so.
kenjigreat
Banned
Yes , I just woke up and apparently WarnerBros made a Post saying 'Recommended Spec GTX 760 = PS4'.
Its actually worse than PS4 , even if you have 4 Way SLI Titan X , the game has secretly gimped AO and rain effects.
meanspartan
Member
Why the fuck are Steam and others still selling this, knowing what they know about how broken it is?
That is another thing that needs to become standard. If a game ships substantially broken, it shouldn't stay on the storefronts.
Or at least a warning. Instead, it's prominently featured. Fuck off with that shit.
That is another thing that needs to become standard. If a game ships substantially broken, it shouldn't stay on the storefronts.
Or at least a warning. Instead, it's prominently featured. Fuck off with that shit.
truestatic
Member
I have it and am loving it. If I were unable to buy it right now I'd honestly be pretty upset.
Edit: Nevermind, you edited it. I guess the warnings are sorta there though, in the form of the steam reviews. That 'Mostly Negative' reception...
kenjigreat
Banned
Its made by the same buffoons that tell us the Recommended Spec = PS4 when its actually worse than PS4. http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Sup...formance-PLEASE-READ-FIRST/m-p/572903#U572903
The same idiots who cap the game at 30FPS.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Hype was telling me to pre-order it, but it seems I dodged a bullet there.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Because you know, according to the devs, it only happens to "some" and they are only investigating it now. So not broken, at least not that they knew of.
LurkerPrime
Member
The one thing I really hope they fix is the insane VRAM usage. It has to be a memory leak or something, because it ballons until it pops and everything crashes with it. It's an absolutely crazy thing to miss for release.
If you say so; I personally don't see it. But I guess time will explain all.
It would certainly be nice if they fix everything up, but their response (let alone releasing BAK in this state to begin with) does not inspire my confidence.
If you say so; I personally don't see it. But I guess time will explain all.
It would certainly be nice if they fix everything up, but their response (let alone releasing BAK in this state to begin with) does not inspire my confidence.
meanspartan
Member
Ya I realized this a second after posting, and edited to say at least have a prominent warning.
Or put it in fucking early access.
Which does suggest it is meant to be on in the game by default.
Affeinvasion
Member
I can't imagine that refunds are completely lossless for valve. Even if it's just paying people overtime to deal with the requests. That being said valve is more than happy to take a percentage of your money as it gets handed over to other con men and scam artists. That's what greenlight and early access are all about. Just ask Jim Sterling.
Self_Destructive
Member
Ok
"Bugs" that meant AO is disabled and there is no mention of it in the ini file.
----yes it's there... find 'ambient'
"Bugs" that meant the rain shader is disabled on all surfaces, again with no mention of it in any ini file or menu option.
----again, the shader might be bugged.. just because the ini file doesn't say 'rain shaders on all surfaces = True' doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
"Bugs" that mean the game is locked to 30fps despite the benchmark running at higher frame rates.
----very easy to unlock... oh and locking framerates is nothing specific to this game.
"Bugs" that's cause memory leaks everywhere.
----Bugs DO cause memory leaks.. lol
"Bugs that mean the maximum texture option is normal.
----Who says 'normal' isn't the highest texture setting? LOL bu but where's my Ultra.. News flash... just cause it doesn't say high/ultra doesn't mean it isn't the highest given setting.
"Bugs" that prevent people from disabling CA, Film grain and motion blur in the menus.
----Developers have a vision for their game. It's their choice to enable effects settings to be changed or not.. this should be standard, but devs don't owe an explanation for it. Don't like it? I guess that's YOUR problem.. not the games.
"Bugs" that cause textures to not (sometimes never) load in properly.
----They can do that yes..
"Bugs" which cause the game to be a jaggy fest no matter what resolution you downsample from.
----Not sure what you're talking about here?
"Bugs" that are causing the game to stutter and hitch all over the place.
----The game surely needs some fixing on the performance side... I was never arguing that point.
Need I go on?
----Nah.
Yes, that could certainly be a bug. I've heard of other high profile games having issues caused by errors in the build process that were fixed withing a couple of days.
The 30 fps lock doesn't seem to be a bug, at least so far, although it could certainly unintended. The benchmark being unlocked might be.
Yes, memory leaks are considered bugs too.
If there's supposed to be a higher setting, sure.
Unless, they screwed up the menu, I think that's just them omitting the options from the menu.
Could be that. Could be a graphics driver bug.
Hard to say what would cause this. I'm not a graphics programmer, so I don't know if there are rendering techniques that could result in this.
Condescending much? I don't think I've really said anything that would indicate I don't know what I'm talking about. I've seen enough footage and read enough posts to know the extent of the issues.
If you'll remember to a few minutes ago, I was just guessing that the rain effects not working is probably just a bug.
kenjigreat
Banned
http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Sup...formance-PLEASE-READ-FIRST/m-p/572903#U572903
The Man just said Recommended Specs = 30FPS Console Equivalent.
Krappadizzle
Member
Nope. It's missing.
I'm glad to have got a 980 Ti for Witcher 3 and this, but this game brings my card to low teens frequently. It's bonkers. At 1080p.
So basically this is a waste of time? Should I try downloading it?
kenjigreat
Banned
The game is garbage . Seriously after that press release http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Sup...formance-PLEASE-READ-FIRST/m-p/572903#U572903.
I can safely say I am NEVER EVER buying a Warner Game on PC again.
meanspartan
Member
Bet they fix a couple things, leaving the game still substantially lackluster, and then move on and call it "fixed".
Robert7lee
Neo Member
Playing on stock msi 980ti, i7 4770 @ 4.2ghz, 32gb ram. Win 7 Ultimate, 1080p display, standard hdd. Nvidia game works off everything else on high (is that the max?). In game vsync off, forced vsync with noida inspector.
With frame rate unlocked there are areas where the frame rate with hold at 60 but just moving the camera to a certain location can drop this to low 50's, gliding around can take the frame rate down to 40's or under, batmobile will drop the frame rate to 30's. I will say the visuals with frame rate unlocked look clear.
Now with locked 30fps the frame rate never goes under 30 but it still fluctuates for me 31-32 fps and looks a blurry mess and grainy.
You would expect the game to perform better with these pc builds with just normal textures right?
I've tried taking motion blur off the in the .ini file but this sadly crashes the game on start up.
ThirdNostril
Banned
Anyone notice the shitty textures on the batmobile? Adjusted the textures for the vehicle and look at the difference. Character stuff doesn't change batman's textures and comparing npc's would be hard. I'll try adjusting further.
I'm sure if you dig enough there will be a lot more missing things in other areas throughout the game, this port is screwed far beyond scope of some patches.
The first two bolded aren't entirely true. AO is mentioned in the BmSystemSettings.ini file and is enabled by default but not showing up in game or an in game option. The rain effects may be controlled by Rain_TemporalSplashPatternName in BmEngine.ini but I'm not certain, it seems like the closest thing to it at this point.
That third bolded point is true, I really wish they made it easy to disable CA, film grain and motion blur because it's not working from the .ini files. Motion blur just crashes the game when it's disabled and CA and film grain I'm not sure about but in BmEngine.ini there are these two which may relate to it:
PostProcessNoiseTextureName=
PostProcessGlareBeamTextureName=
(I accidentally lost what is following the '=' because I didn't make a backup of the BmEngine.ini so if anyone can provide that I'd appreciate it).
Self_Destructive
Member
Nah, the problem is you have armchair devs running though ini files spreading false info with no real idea how things work.
By all means refund the game due to the performance. It obviously wasn't optimized well enough... but saying they purposefully left out effects and fucked over PC games... I think that's bullshit.
truestatic
Member
I am blind. Which is which?
The shiny one I think.
I'm telling you there is no in game option for SSAO, like every other game does, you're showing me ini picture that could be anything or unused from UE3. Their intentions are very clear from what's in the actual game. There are tons of stuff missing, not just AO either.
Wildschwein
Member
I bought my key from a co-workers nvidia bundle. If it were more than $25 I would be a little more up in arms. At least I still have witcher 3 to hold me over. I think I need to step away from this one for a week.
SmartWaffles
Member
ThirdNostril
Banned
Top one is modified.
MisterAnderson
Member
I am beyond livid at the inane update they posted...you've got to be fucking kidding me.
Self_Destructive
Member
CHECK YOUR OWN FILE THEN FFS.. I give you the name of the file... I give you the parameters to search for... Just because there's not an AO option in the game doesn't mean it's not there..
And REALLY... REALLY.. you do think the consoles would have it and the PC missing it is on purpose? LOL, just some UE3 unused code...
Is there an AO option on the console versions?
It's a DEFAULT setting of the game... which means it is meant to be on at all times..
gordon1470
Member
Refund was just approved. That was fast. Thank you based Steam.
The sad thing is...that this is the truth.