bananafactory
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Yeah Man of Steel isn't in the same league as Bay films. I don't even really like it, but it's at least a mostly competent film with actual characters.
Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Yeah Man of Steel isn't in the same league as Bay films. I don't even really like it, but it's at least a mostly competent film with actual characters.
ElBoxyBrown
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What are you talking about? MoS Superman gave me hope that a DBZ movie was possible.
Discotheque
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heh i thought the first half of the movie was better than the second.
brandonh83
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I don't even see how it's debatable lol
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Lord Virgin
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I can't wait for the LTTP threads. This movie will just keep on giving.
MisterHero
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Steve Urkel is traveling the multiverse to rescue Judy Winslow who got accidentally wiped from his timeline.
What about people who found MoS decent but love Batman?
He's more like Bay-Lite as atleast Bay gets decent CGI content
Sure there's subjectivity, but there's also majority/minority groupings of subjectivity and I'd be willing to bet majority found MoS rather soulless as its characters and their actions are uneven and unconvincing and the film relies on music and repeating scenes from other material to generate the reaction.
Compare the excellently handled (and acted) death of Pa Kent in Superman the Movie to the turgid and frankly illogical scene in MoS just for starters.
I mean cool, you like it. Some people I've seen cried at MoS emotional scenes. But compared to other films its obvious to me it's fairly soulless and lacking in conviction next to superior films and the previous films and media it apes poorly.
It's easy to be critic proof when you're doing super franchises. His other films merely do okay.
But Goku saved people occasionally.
Call me daft, but I really didn't see this coming.
With this being in the oven for so long, I had hoped WB would have kept a closer eye on it, especially considering how important a release it is for them.
With GL, MOS, and now potentially this, that's three strikes on WB. Do you guys really expect them to bounce back by the hands of David Ayer?
With this being in the oven for so long, I had hoped WB would have kept a closer eye on it, especially considering how important a release it is for them.
With GL, MOS, and now potentially this, that's three strikes on WB. Do you guys really expect them to bounce back by the hands of David Ayer?
Just got in and saw this thread (and the other RT prediction thread)...was there any real surprise here?
Here's a movie by Zack Snyder!...oh, and there's a review embargo until hours before the movie releases...but tickets will go on sale weeks in advance, and we'll hype up the ticket sales numbers as the big news story going into the launch week!
Seriously, ANY movie or game that has had a review embargo lift hours before release has been laughed at here...except for BvS?
Here's a movie by Zack Snyder!...oh, and there's a review embargo until hours before the movie releases...but tickets will go on sale weeks in advance, and we'll hype up the ticket sales numbers as the big news story going into the launch week!
Seriously, ANY movie or game that has had a review embargo lift hours before release has been laughed at here...except for BvS?
You're way closer than my 75%
I was really hoping Affleck ghost-directed the movie and/or touched up the script. Without his input, I pegged the score at 55% but that's looking unlikely now as well.
The sad thing is I thought he did.....I mean that's what the reports were saying.
Goddamit...this is one of the most depressing days ever.
This is how I picture the Snyder-WB relationship.
Oh man I love this.
BronsonLee
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No goddamnit
Affleck is good as Batman. I'd say the movie is about 60/40 his way.
I also don't understand the hate. I actually enjoyed both films. I just saw Man of Steel yesterday for the first time in order to prepare for Batman vs. Superman. Now I have to admit, I know nothing about Superman except for some things from a few animated movies (like The Dark Knight) and the old Animated Series (which I saw... years ago? And even then I wasn't that interested). So in that regard, I have no idea if it was a good or a bad Superman movie. However, I do think Man of Steel was a really good action movie. I had my fun with it. Definitly not one of the best movies ever, but much better than many people make it out.
So if this movie is actually even better than Man of Steel, atleast I have no problems with it.
Now that's rough.
Reverend Funk
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his parents are DEAD
Dash_Riprock
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He also didn't go emo after he killed someone.
EnthronedReaper
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Man they're hasn't been a dope movie out since dead pool and Snyder pulls this shit out of his ass? I Was hyped but now idk.....
BronsonLee
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And so is THIS MOVIE
MisterHero
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Yeah and a comedian could just stop telling his joke in the middle of it...
Also that GIF cuts off the ducks. C'mon let's see the whole glorious sequence in totality.
vasametropolis
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Which goes to show how wrong the reviews are. It's literally impossible for it to be as bad as Daredevil. I'm not saying I think it should have great reviews.. I haven't even seen the thing. But like... come on. What are the chances it's THAT bad? Zero.
Allonym
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I think I'll watch it, as I intended to, and not allow critics to think for me or sway my mind in any way. You guys coming out with your pitchforks should see the film for yourselves before claiming that the film is crap. The film may very well be terrible or you just may enjoy it but you owe it to yourself to see it before judging it. Also some critics seem to condemning it simply because it doesn't fit the mold of a Marvel movie by not being needlessly funny. It seems more admirable that the movie attempted to be its own thing rather than attempting to replicate Marvel's formula and I think the subject matter should be taken seriously. DC typically has a darker tone than Marvel works so it's refreshing to see that making its way into the film.
TheSlySoul
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Less property damage at least. He took Vegeta to a mountain range. Did Superman bring Zod to a mountian range?
Well, both turned their great heroes into psychotic beings of mass destruction who utterly murder their adversaries...
Though hearing the voice of Optimus Prime himself speak the lines "kill them all" sunk my heart more.
SonicMegaDrive
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Cancel everything and bring back Dini and Timm to make new episodes of Batman and Justice League.
yeah saying reviews don't matter is crazy.
literally the only exception to the rule seems to be transformers. if the word of mouth on this film is poor, it's going to hurt the film financially. it's ASM2 all over again.
That is amazing.
Dude's good at adapting page-by-page exact scenes from existing work.
300 worked because Frank Miller drew such evocative scenes:
Ask Snyder to do something original, and he flounders.
Instead of BvsS, they should've just let him at a TDKR adaption. DCU be damned.
EDIT: Man, I want to re-read 300 now. Loved it.
badcrumble
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Weird, the thread title got updated so much but never for "41% and falling."
Dash_Riprock
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Sure was a lot of comedy in those Nolan Batman films. must be why critics hated them.
Oh wait...
brandonh83
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I won't pretend to know anything about the majority, we're talking millions upon millions of people. I didn't cry or any shit like that in Man of Steel, but I thought it gave plenty of attention to its characters and I don't see how their actions were unconvincing or whatever. It all seemed to work in its own context, at least for me. The Kent death was stupid as fuck though.
ThoseDeafMutes
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The bar for superhero movies has raised numerous times since DD came out. You can't direct compare the two like that, not only because the reviews have not finished coming out yet, but because it's an aggregate of how critics felt at the time, not how they would compare them now.
AHA-Lambda
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Marvel's initiative really started off with a bang so it was easy to maintain the momentum. So from the start it seemed safer for them to keep going. They choose from a wide array of directors and writers who were good fits for their respective projects, and didn't need to be auteurs; all of the heavy lifting guidance-wise is handled by the producers and select creative people.
DC/Warner appeared to think that since Nolan's Batman was a recent hit they could Trust Nolan to pick a successor and then leave it in that person's hands. Bad decisions in my opinion, especially with so much money and time on the line. It got off to a mediocre start with Man of Steel, and I think they must have felt the need to try to "right the ship" and win back the public's hearts and minds. So rather than being able to kick off several projects in tandem and isolation, all with their own identities and characters to either succeed or fail, they had to go back and quickly tie them into the next Superman film while betting the farm on it. Not a bad idea, I don't think, but they shouldn't have kept Snyder involved.
Just my speculation of course. If this movie opens to at least $130 million (that was the figure they said they'd be happy with, right?) and does well globally it won't matter. But I bet if critical reception ends up poor and this thing doesn't perform really well, Snyder will be gone and everything but Wonder Woman (which is already done filming according to wikipedia) will be axed and retooled completely.
Edit: I forgot Suicide Squad
I want to live in that future.
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