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[JdFoX187]

So for those of you who have seen it ...

Spoiler

is it a Lion and is it huge?

It's definitely huge and it sure as hell isn't a lion.

 

[mCACGj]

i fail to see why they haven't had someone explain that in the movie.

But no one knows where it came from. Maybe the military knew, but I doubt they were going to tell some random people who are trying to go get themselves killed as they try to save someone. In this type of movie you can only reveal what the characters know, I guess maybe during a news session on TV in that shop, but honestly why do they need to make an effort to put this in? It makes the mystique of the movie better if you ask me. We don't need to know everything, and frankly we can't know everything.

 

[topsyturvy]

because no one in the movie really knows....and neither does the audience really as thats the idea

it would've took 2 seconds for some one to utter "it came from the sea" or "it came from outer space". Not one person in the movie assumed anything. :/

But no one knows where it came from. Maybe the military knew, but I doubt they were going to tell some random people who are trying to go get themselves killed as they try to save someone. In this type of movie you can only reveal what the characters know, I guess maybe during a news session on TV in that shop, but honestly why do they need to make an effort to put this in? It makes the mystique of the movie better if you ask me. We don't need to know everything, and frankly we can't know everything.

i guess that works. :/

 

[TheWolf]

Spoiler

....evidence that the monster didn't come from the sea, but came from space most likely

huh? Abrams said it's not from space. why does a satellite falling make you think the monster is from space?

 

[JdFoX187]

Well I agree. I mean, I for one think the film was awesome. But you know what would have been even awesomer? If instead of going to save the chick, they just hopped on a chopper and left. Cue credits end the movie. Because, I mean... in my movies about a huge monster laying waste to NYC and shedding little flood type bastards off his back that make people explode, I just HAVE to have realistic plot lines for my characters.

As has already been explained, he loved her and figured he was going to do anything to save her. The other guys tagged along because they didn't want him going off by himself.

 

[Andokuky]

As has already been explained, he loved her and figured he was going to do anything to save her. The other guys tagged along because they didn't want him going off by himself.

 

[Dead]

it would've took 2 seconds for some one to utter "it came from the sea" or "it came from outer space". Not one person in the movie assumed anything. :/

Did you even watch it? Hud gave a bunch of theories. That;s all they can do, they don't know wtf it really is.

 

[AgentOtaku]

huh? Abrams said it's not from space. why does a satellite falling make you think the monster is from space?

oh....I didn't know anything about the satalite =/

....radiation sea creatures then?

 

[border]

RT of The Host: 92%
RT of Cloverfield: 76%

For one thing, "The Host" did a MUCH better job at comedy.

Something as experiemental as Cloverfield is really never going to chart universally well with critics.

I <3 metascore dick-waving.

 

[king]

satalite?

 

[TheWolf]

oh....I didn't know anything about the satalite =/

....radiation sea creatures then?

Spoiler

the secret ingredient for Slusho! causes the transformation. the company likely disturbed the creature while trying to recover the satellite/secret ingredient/oil drilling which are all located in the deep sea.

 

[dark_chris]

Well I agree. I mean, I for one think the film was awesome. But you know what would have been even awesomer? If instead of going to save the chick, they just hopped on a chopper and left. Cue credits end the movie. Because, I mean... in my movies about a huge monster laying waste to NYC and shedding little flood type bastards off his back that make people explode, I just HAVE to have realistic plot lines for my characters.

wow. lmao.

 

[El Papa]

huh? Abrams said it's not from space. why does a satellite falling make you think the monster is from space?

Cloverfield Despoiler says that Hatsui, the satellite, was tracking something that had fallen into the ocean from space (obviously monster, since the satellite couldn't track shit if it had crashed in the ocean). The production notes I've read make it seem like it came from the ocean, but why would they show the scene of something plunging into the ocean if it wasn't significant? ie why would they show a satellite crashing when no one even knew about a satellite unless they followed the ARG hype stuff? Also, wouldn't a satellite mostly break up on re-entry?

 

[fistfulofmetal]

You don't aim very high, do you?

Psh.

 

[Teknoman]

Yeah, even through the "unrealistic" context of the movie, a satellite still should've broken into many parts on re-entry. Im going with the "it came from space" theory. I mean even though the audience wasnt supposed to know anything about...anything, they arent going to just toss in a satellite that only people who were REALLY intrested in the plot paid attention to.

 

[OxtheMidget]

Can someone explain this whole satellite business?

 

[topsyturvy]

As has already been explained, he loved her and figured he was going to do anything to save her. The other guys tagged along because they didn't want him going off by himself.

I also hated that part. When all the riots and shit broke out, why was they following rob? they just made him the typical cliche savior/hero guy that everyone follows to lead them to the promise land. They was crying and screaming his name out the complete blue as if thats the logical thing to do. that was a pretty cheesy part of the movie. Not only that but a military caravan was escorting civilians out at the same time of the riots.

I mean, wheres the sense of emergency?

Spoiler

the secret ingredient for Slusho! causes the transformation. the company likely disturbed the creature while trying to recover the satellite/secret ingredient/oil drilling which are all located in the deep sea.

so basically they expects people that don't read into viral marketing to know that?

 

[border]

Most infuriating thing I've read all week (but then again, it's only Sunday):

These twentysometings, whom the script spends fifteen minutes letting us hang with, are instead people we'd like to hang. Where's Juno when you need her?

I think I'd rather spend an evening fleeing a monster with Hud than I would 30 seconds in Juno's teenage pretentious hipster wonderland.

 

[TheWolf]

Cloverfield Despoiler says that Hatsui, the satellite, was tracking something that had fallen into the ocean from space (obviously monster, since the satellite couldn't track shit if it had crashed in the ocean). The production notes I've read make it seem like it came from the ocean, but why would they show the scene of something plunging into the ocean if it wasn't significant? ie why would they show a satellite crashing when no one even knew about a satellite unless they followed the ARG hype stuff? Also, wouldn't a satellite mostly break up on re-entry?

maybe the

Spoiler

secret ingredient comes from some kind of comet that crashed into the ocean or something then. i just find the idea that a single alien creature would come through our atmosphere only to run around NY knocking shit over while showing no intelligence to be retarded.

 

[Nicodimas]

I just HAVE to have realistic plot lines for my characters.

This seems to be the whole biggest plot complaint.

Funny if this shit was going on and one of my buddies left that message I would go back. If this was my girl that would secure the deal. I might arm myself a bit better consider a massive monster was running around and take a path underground from the beginning. They prolly would have run into the creature if they went either way. i would rather face the little ones then the littles ones + the main baddie.

 

[Teknoman]

I also hated that part. When all the riots and shit broke out, why was they following rob? they just made him the typical cliche savior/hero guy that everyone follows to lead them to the promise land. They was crying and screaming his name out the complete blue as if thats the logical thing to do. that was a pretty cheesy part of the movie. Not only that but a military caravan was escorting civilians out at the same time of the riots.

I mean, wheres the sense of emergency?

Didnt the caravan get busted by the monster's foot?

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I also hated that part. When all the riots and shit broke out, why was they following rob? they just made him the typical cliche savior/hero guy that everyone follows to lead them to the promise land. They was crying and screaming his name out the complete blue as if thats the logical thing to do. that was a pretty cheesy part of the movie. Not only that but a military caravan was escorting civilians out at the same time of the riots.

I mean, wheres the sense of emergency?

Because when all hell breaks loose, god forbid you remember your friends.

 

[OxtheMidget]

maybe the secret ingredient comes from some kind of comet that crashed into the ocean or something then. i just find the idea that a single alien creature would come through our atmosphere only to run around NY knocking shit over while showing no intelligence to be retarded.

:lol And a secret ingredient coming from a meteor/comet isn't?

 

[topsyturvy]

Because when all hell breaks loose, god forbid you remember your friends.

they obviously looked at rob as the typical hero. lets not try to pretend that didn't happen.

 

[OxtheMidget]

Come on, people. Would you really just leave your best friend/girl you've loved forever like that? Just the fact that you'd probably feel the remorse for the rest of your life would be enough reason to take the risk.

 

[topsyturvy]

Didnt the caravan get busted by the monster's foot?

I believe they was going the opposite direction from the military and monster was fighting at

(right after rob got the cell phone batteries and ran in the alley.)

another thing, can the monster throw?? i mean, how the fuck did he knocked down the chopper?

 

[fistfulofmetal]

I also hated that part. When all the riots and shit broke out, why was they following rob? they just made him the typical cliche savior/hero guy that everyone follows to lead them to the promise land. They was crying and screaming his name out the complete blue as if thats the logical thing to do. that was a pretty cheesy part of the movie. Not only that but a military caravan was escorting civilians out at the same time of the riots.

I mean, wheres the sense of emergency?

Lily went with Rob because he is basically her brother. She views him as family. As stated earlier in the movie, she feels very close to him. Moreso then because Jason had just died, leaving Rob as her only immediate "family"

Hud went because he is Rob's best friend. They are obviously very close as well. In this movie, we're dealing with a very close group of people. Hud also went because of Marlena. He doesn't want to see her in danger

Now Marlena is the only contrivance, but it isn't much of a stretch.
She just witnessed a major traumatic encounter, seeing the monster eating people around her. The only person she knows in the immediate area is Lily, so she wants to stay near her. And hey, maybe she's just a good person ya know?

 

[DarthWaiter]

anyone else catch what was said after the ending?


“It’s still alive.” In Reversed English

 

[Teknoman]

Come on, people. Would you really just leave your best friend/girl you've loved forever like that? Just the fact that you'd probably feel the remorse for the rest of your life would be enough reason to take the risk.

Well when you think about it, the only real danger if you arent paying attention (realistically speaking) were the parasites. Once the big monster got clear of things, it should've been easy street, so rescuing someone/checking on them would've been entirely possible.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

anyone else catch what was said after the ending?


“It’s still alive.” In Reversed English

damn man.... good catch!!!!!!!







Probably should have bolded it, though.

 

[Andokuky]

wow. lmao.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

they obviously looked at rob as the typical hero. lets not try to pretend that didn't happen.

...that's so hard to believe? What kind of friends do you have, man?

 

[OxtheMidget]

Well when you think about it, the only real danger if you arent paying attention (realistically speaking) were the parasites. Once the big monster got clear of things, it should've been easy street, so rescuing someone/checking on them would've been entirely possible.

Exactly.

 

[Snidely Whiplash]

Wan't the creature already asleep in the ocean for thousands of years though? So the satellite is still what hit the water isn't it?

 

[DarthWaiter]

To put an end to the space theory

The producer J.J. Abrams says, "The concept for the monster is simple. He's a baby. He's brand-new. He's confused, disoriented and irritable. And he's been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years."

 

[TheWolf]

:lol And a secret ingredient coming from a meteor/comet isn't?

not as retarded.

 

[DarthWaiter]

Note that in the "viral" marketing campaign for the film, there were hints concerning the "Bloop" incident. In 1997, the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recorded an ultra-low frequency underwater sound that was never identified. Scientists who studied the phenomenon said that the creature that produced it would be much larger than a blue whale.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop


the ocean is full of mysteries

 

[topsyturvy]

Lily went with Rob because he is basically her brother. She views him as family. As stated earlier in the movie, she feels very close to him. Moreso then because Jason had just died, leaving Rob as her only immediate "family"

Hud went because he is Rob's best friend. They are obviously very close as well. In this movie, we're dealing with a very close group of people. Hud also went because of Marlena. He doesn't want to see her in danger

Now Marlena is the only contrivance, but it isn't much of a stretch.
She just witnessed a major traumatic encounter, seeing the monster eating people around her. The only person she knows in the immediate area is Lily, so she wants to stay near her. And hey, maybe she's just a good person ya know?

thats irrelevant because a caravan was still there to save them...not only did they almost died on the bridge right before they went in the subway, they saw the emperor state building collapse, statue of liberty head gets ripped off, brother pretty much died in front of them, and saw little fucking creatures eat the military troops on the tv. That alone should tell them to get the fuck out of the city.

 

[OxtheMidget]

not as retarded.

I think it's a hundred times more retarded, but I guess that's just me.

 

[Teknoman]

Note that in the "viral" marketing campaign for the film, there were hints concerning the "Bloop" incident. In 1997, the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recorded an ultra-low frequency underwater sound that was never identified. Scientists who studied the phenomenon said that the creature that produced it would be much larger than a blue whale.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop


the ocean is full of mysteries

Wait...wait, that was real right? I mean it was used in viral marketing, but it's something that actually occured that they used to their benefit right?

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

thats irrelevant because a caravan was still there to save them...not only did they almost died on the bridge right before they went in the subway, they saw the emperor state building collapse, statue of liberty head gets ripped off, brother pretty much died in front of them, and saw little fucking creatures eat the military troops on the tv. That alone should tell them to get the fuck out of the city.

That's what it told you. It told them to actually try to save as much of a resemblance of their old lives as the could. If you had a sliver of a chance to save some one, you wouldn't regret not taking it? And if a friend could've lived through a dire situation, but died because you weren't there to help them, you wouldn't regret it? It's fine if you could, but these people couldn't. Stop trying to tell characters what they should've done - they had different motives from you.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

thats irrelevant because a caravan was still there to save them...not only did they almost died on the bridge right before they went in the subway, they saw the emperor state building collapse, statue of liberty head gets ripped off, brother pretty much died in front of them, and saw little fucking creatures eat the military troops on the tv. That alone should tell them to get the fuck out of the city.

What's irrelevant? Everything I said points to why these people would think about something other than themselves. Lily would never leave her 'brother', Rob go alone. Hud would never leave his best friend alone.

Marlena is the only one who really has questionable reasons. But come on, there are people in the world who would go out of their way to save another life.

 

[DarthWaiter]

Wait...wait, that was real right? I mean it was used in viral marketing, but it's something that actually occured that they used to their benefit right?

Yes this event is actually real.

 

[TheWolf]

I think it's a hundred times more retarded, but I guess that's just me.

then where the fuck is the spaceship? a monster is just hurling through space with it's body?

not to mention the creator said the MONSTER IS NOT FROM FUCKING SPACE.

 

[Spotless Mind]

To put an end to the space theory

The producer J.J. Abrams says, "The concept for the monster is simple. He's a baby. He's brand-new. He's confused, disoriented and irritable. And he's been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years."

Nothing in the movie alluded to where it came from, other than something falling out of the sky. I know part of the allure is having it from the characters point of view and i love that, but inserting links to and explaining it through outside means like the viral campaign just doesn't work for me. It goes against what the movie set out to do, since lots of people in this thread keep mentioning it and disputing other peoples theories.

 

[OxtheMidget]

then where the fuck is the spaceship? a monster is just hurling through space with it's body?

not to mention the creator said the MONSTER IS NOT FROM FUCKING SPACE.

Wow, you turned into a dick really fast.

Anyways, I'm aware of the fact that the monster is said not to be from space. However, I think the idea of a monster coming from outer space without a spaceship more plausible than a company getting the secret ingredient to a huge product from a god damned comet.

 

[Teknoman]

Yes this event is actually real.

Ah gotcha. Heh these days you cant be too sure.

Also both are equally feasible (space and meteor ingredient).

Space: Even though it's been "proven" false, they beat the brakes off of it with huge payloads of explosives, missle volleys, a hail of bullets, and it still brushed them off. Falling through the atmosphere probably would've been easy.

Ingredient: We eat stranger crap in real life. Think about where salt comes from. Technically we use pieces of rock to season our food.

 

[heliosRAzi]

thats irrelevant because a caravan was still there to save them...not only did they almost died on the bridge right before they went in the subway, they saw the emperor state building collapse, statue of liberty head gets ripped off, brother pretty much died in front of them, and saw little fucking creatures eat the military troops on the tv. That alone should tell them to get the fuck out of the city.

If someone you loved was in danger, would you go save them?

 

[topsyturvy]

That's what it told you. It told them to actually try to save as much of a resemblance of their old lives as the could. If you had a sliver of a chance to save some one, you wouldn't regret not taking it? And if a friend could've lived through a dire situation, but died because you weren't there to help them, you wouldn't regret it? It's fine if you could, but these people couldn't. Stop trying to tell characters what they should've done - they had different motives from you.

when you say people, you mean only rob right? Because i don't recall that any of the shitty characters thinking about robs love interest. :/

 

[topsyturvy]

If someone you loved was in danger, would you go save them?

in that situation? it would only have to be family.

and um, didn't whats her face practically got her self out of the chopper? Why didn't she do that in the apartment building?? yeeeeeaaaa.