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[bundylove]

 

[Ogbert]

No this is objectively false, they already threw in the towel for support

And it cost way more money to make than concord, it is far more in the red even if it “sold better” (what a phony victory that is)

I have no idea why you are carrying so much water for this game.

The bottom line is not the only metric. Concord is such a cosmic turkey, in terms of concurrent users, that it is causing reputational damage to Sony. They do not want to be associated with it. They do not want to ‘soft launch’ it again and see the numbers literally double to almost 200 players.

The game is an embarrassment.

 

[clintar]

Yeah, but will they learn?

 

[Fabieter]

Haha holy shit, what a disaster. This has to be the worse game ever no? Such a waste of resources.

go to YouTube and look up riding hell retribution. That was the worst but also one of the funniest games I played.

 

[bundylove]

 

[DryvBy]

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Suicide Squad sold many more copies than Concord did, and IIRC at full price.

No it didn’t it flopped massively

 

[hinch7]

 

[Topher]

I see my reputation proceeds me....

 

[Clintizzle]

This is like when I was in high school. I would post some I thought was funny on facebook and no one reacted to it so I would delete it.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

from purple town

great designs bro

 

[simpatico]

Everyone thinking this could come back as F2P.... do you guys really think Sony is going to start throwing NEW money at this turd? Seriously? Converting it to F2P would take a ton of dev time and effort. I'm sure Firewalk hopes Sony decides to go that route, but I've got a feeling offices are being packed up as we post in this thread.

 

[near]

For a basic pvp shooter? No this isn’t a massive AAA game

$100M is the ceiling for cost

But it is a AAA title. If you factor in the acquisition itself from ProbablyMonsters as well marketing etc. $100m a weak estimation.

 

[GloveSlap]

Yes

Games used to be designed on the rule of cool. Now it's about preaching a message, and that message is about 10-15 years out of date from being interesting or culturally relevant. 13 year old boys aren't going to be buying your game featuring overweight 38 year old millenials. I don't know how this is hard to see

It's the same thing I feel about Marvel style writing. It's not 2010 anymore. We can move on

I have nothing against hiring a diverse team of people. But keep that shit behind closed doors. I do not need to see a reflection of your HR policy in your character design. Like do I have to describe how fucking boring and lame that shit is? If the ideas you bring to gaming are literally skin deep nobody is going to care

Yeah, i have seen the rejection of this stuff in younger people first hand. It makes sense too since this started as a way of rebelling against "the man". The people screeching online still LARP as rebels, but they became "the man" years ago.

 

[CLW]

Yeah, but will they learn?

 

[Revolutionary]

People arguing whether Concord or Suicide Squad is a bigger flop just reminds me of this meme

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Yeah Ill give them credit for this. Game should’ve been canned after the beta and saved themselves the embarrassment, but it’s unfair to have people pay $40 for a dead game. Might as well take it on the chin.

Man I’m so baffled they even launched it. Everyone hated the reveal trailer. Free open beta maxed out at 2,388 concurrent players on Steam, and got a lukewarm reception from those who bothered to try it. There was nonstop bad publicity about how few people played the beta. What in the hell did they think would happen when they launched at $40??

 

[simpatico]

Did experts from Bungie reviewed and gave green light to this title ?

Speaking of which, how bad was Factions if Sony decided it needed to die, but Concord was OK to live? Mega yikes.

 

[diffusionx]

No it didn’t it flipped massively

Suicide Squad peaked at ~13,000 concurrent users on Steam. Concord peaked at less than 700. Yes it did.

And say what you will about SS, you can still buy a copy, and go online, and play with the 99 other people playing it on Steam (a number that Concord dipped below over a long holiday weekend).

 

[FoxMcChief]

Homeboy about to get a bigger pay day from Concord than Sony.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

GO WOKE AND GO BROKE

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

-Star Wars Acolyte being cancelled
-Concord being shut down
-Suicide Squad flopping hard

It's almost like this "mOdeRn AuDiEnCe" doesn't exist!!!!! Let's get some more added to this list before the year is over

 

[alphachino]

Wouldn't even play it if they paid me. RIP in peace Concord.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

At lunch, the game was at 25 people as per Steam charts. Announcement goes out and it literally spiked to 100 fast. Looks like Concord gamers want to get in their last few days of gaming asap.

 

[alphachino]

I think it's good that they're offering refunds, and something like a comeback is possible (FFXIV), but man, that was fast.

taking "fail early, fail fast" to a whole new level

 

[Fbh]

The only way the purchase makes sense to me is that the studio was already in trouble and Sony got it for cheap.

Otherwise, I don't know what the hell the bean counters at Sony were thinking.

That would at least make some sense I guess.
I think there's a real possibility though that they really thought this game was going to be a big hit and wanted to secure the studio before the game came out (at which point, assuming it was a hit, the price of the studio would have skyrocketed and other potential buyers might enter the picture)

 

[user friendly]

As likely already stated.... holy shit. Nobody to play with I guess is the problem...

 

[Boss Mog]

It's nice that Astro Bot will be born into a world free of Concord.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's almost tempting to skim some stores and buy up sealed discs gambling it'll be worth something.

 

[Mozzarella]

Wow what a disaster!

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Speaking of which, how bad was Factions if Sony decided it needed to die, but Concord was OK to live? Mega yikes.

Didnt they move away from Factions because ND decided they need the manpower for other singleplayer projects?

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Indy will be next

 

[Astray]

James Sawyer Ford I'll give you a solid piece of advice, son.

Sometimes you have to know when to take a L. It's honestly not that deep.

There's a conversation to be had about why this game failed, how much it failed, and whether that failure shapes the future of SIE or is just a freak accident. But this thread isn't the time for it lol.

Suicide Squad sold many more copies than Concord did, and IIRC at full price.

Rocksteady can come back with a new Arkham game, and if it's good then they get back in good graces.

What does Firewalk studios fall back on? I think at best this studio gets folded into other ones. At very best.

I think it's all about reputation at this point. They don't want this blemish to sustain in a year where they are launching the PS5 Pro and Astrobot. Get out ahead of it as much as possible. This will carry a narrative for bit before falling into obscurity.

Yep, it's basically them trying to pull the plug on the meme failure story.

The downside of this decision is that now the gaming public knows they will cut and run if a game tanks. That's not a good rep to have in the GAAS space, there's a reason Bethesda stuck by Fallout 76, and it's to avoid that exact rep.

 

[blacktout]

Do you think the physical game or the controller will be a rarer collectors item?

If I had a physical copy, I would pass on the refund, that's for sure. I assume any currently on shelves are being pulled, so there may only be a couple thousand (or even just a few hundred!) in the wild. You can bet those are going to be highly sought after by completionist collectors who don't care whether the game is playable or not, since they have no plans to ever take it out of the box anyway.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Because of this.

This game along with a dozen others came at the expense of the single player narrative driven games playstation fans love to play. 60% of their budget this year is wasted on these games. At a time where costs have risen exponentially, they have cut down investment in single player games, shut down studios, laid off almost a thousand people from talented studios like ND, GG and Insomniac, all to invest in trash like this.

Maybe you are not a fan of playstation. But people who are fans should look at how they cut down the sp investment by FY23 and then only brought it up to FY19 pre pandemic levels when they shouldve been increasing the budgets to keep up with rising costs of next gen game development. Concord survived while other studios got shut down or gutted by herman cunt and his band of morons.

That is why people care.

When those powerpoint slides were done, was Concord part of the GAAS tally they were promoting? If it was, you can cancel another one from the 12.

 

[simpatico]

Didnt they move away from Factions because ND decided they need the manpower for other singleplayer projects?

Not sure, but we can assume it had a quite a lot of budget sunk in when they pulled the plug given how long ND had been done with TLOU 2.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[Buggy Loop]

Dude, the game had an 8 year dev cycle, a new controller, and over $100M invested into this. It didn't last two weeks before Sony pulled the plug. Even Babylon's Fall lasted longer and had a higher player count on Steam. Suicide Squad had something like 12x the number of peak players on Steam and is still being updated. Concord is one of the biggest flops of all time. There's no way to spin this. It might be the costliest video game project ever.

He is the definition of

He'll fucking die on the smallest hills to protect Sony. Concord of all the hills…

Suicide Squad peaked at ~13,000 concurrent users on Steam. Concord peaked at less than 700. Yes it did.

And say what you will about SS, you can still buy a copy, and go online, and play with the 99 other people playing it on Steam (a number that Concord dipped below over a long holiday weekend).

Voila

It didn’t shut down and get into refund mode 2 weeks in

I don’t understand trying to find worse than concord.

 

[Kindjal]

This exactly why I hate online only games, if servers get shutdown then the game is essentially worthless than toilet paper.

This shit was worthless even with the servers online.

 

[twilo99]

 

[GloveSlap]

They are dangling the option of going free-to-play to soften the blow, but i don't think it will. I don't think the ultra slim chance of success will be worth the embarrassment to Sony from the game bombing a 2nd time.

 

[simpatico]

What does Firewalk studios fall back on? I think at best this studio gets folded into other ones. At very best.

If they really want to try and recoup some money for the company they fucked over, put together a nice PPV live stream of the HR office door on Friday. If they could get it on Steam I think it would be their highest player count yet.

 

[Eliciel]

actually an astonishingly fast and strong move, I am a bit surprised by it to be very honest. One must ask himself, if they can be so decisive in such cases, what is really going on behind curtains on showing new games, new console, new path and strategy. Do they even have one at this point? We will find out 2025.

 

[simpatico]

They are dangling the option of going free-to-play to soften the blow, but i don't think it will. I don't think ultra slim chance of success will be worth the embarrassment to Sony from the game bombing a 2nd time.

No chance Sony dumps MORE money into this game. Going F2P requires a ton of retooling. Ain't gonna happen. Sony is going to bury this and hope everyone forgets about it.

 

[DonF]

from purple town

great designs bro

bruh the old lady is just Ana from overwatch and bazz, god damn, thats has to be the ugliest design ive ever seen. Not only that, it doesnt make sense as the character is supposed to be a silent assassin... who also has to reload knives! It doesnt make sense in universe to have HUGE PURPLE HAIR and HUGE PADDED SHOULDER PADS in a RED FUCKING COAT with the most horrible pair of Air Jordans!!

 

[sachos]

I cant stop thinking about the 8 years dev time. The industry has to chill the fuck out with that. So much time wasted... Full Arkham Trilogy was less than that. FromSoft made DS1,2,3 and BB in 7 years...

 

[Draugoth]

 

[lordrand11]

I think I speak for the majority when I say ahhhhhahhahahahahaha. But really, guys fix it, make it free to play

 

[Yoboman]

Yeah, i have seen the rejection of this stuff in younger people first hand. It makes sense too since this started as a way of rebelling against "the man". The people screeching online still LARP as rebels, but they became "the man" years ago.

Same

This is the perception and also why right wing types like Andrew Tate pop off among teenage boys. They are seen as counter culture, and counter culture has always been cool

Woke shit is not counter culture now. Maybe in 2010 it still was. LGBTQ flags are now Coke can designs and pride month PFPs for every corporation out there. Woke communities are not scrappy activists, they are entrenched professionals telling kids how to behave

 

[Danjin44]

This shit was worthless even with the servers online.

My point is even if SP game is niche or didn’t do well you can still play it but online only games highly depends on other people, if there are not many people playing the game or server gets shutdown you litatraly can’t play the game you payed for…..they are worthless.