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Days Gone Creative Director Blames Bugs, Reviewers Not Bothering to Play and "Woke" Reviewers For Lack of Better Reception
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
Great game, it should definitely not have been a victim of review bombing by woke trolls.
custardbun01
Member
It was a middle road post apocalyptic zombie game in a saturated genre. When it was free on ps plus I tried to like it, punched through about half way. But it never grabbed me. Something about the mechanics and tedium of it all didn’t inspire me to keep going.
LRKD
Member
It honestly seems like your standard AAA game, my conspiracy theory is that sony didn't pay journalists for this one. Horizon, GoW, Uncharted they should all be rated closer to how Days Gone did, not that they are bad, it just seems like they all get rated higher than they should. The woke bashing just seemed like a convenient excuse for journalists to rate this game lower, without having to explain why Days Gone was any different than the regular AAA stuff they rate so highly.
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semiconscious
Member
yeah, with days gone, there's lots to like, & lots to dislike. i over-all enjoyed the game, tho it never really made it easy to do so. my advice: hang in there til you've hit iron mike's camp. once you get there, this's the point in the game, imo, where it's firing on all cylinders. peak days gone...
until you eventually make your way to the next camp, at which point the game's all over the place once again...
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
My favourite zombie game. Sony or not.
Shadowstar39
Member
Game was amazing. Did you even play it? I played it at launch on ps4 and it was fine. Playing it again on PS5 and its glorious.The game was a piece of shit at launch and yikes at that tweet what a.
Bend better off without that dude.
No other game has bikers , let alone hoards and grounded complex characters that aren't cartoon cutouts all in one game. Shit I don't recall a game with bikers ever, where you can run out of gas.
As for the tweet, its 100% true. Just look at the group think twitter mob attacking him for an opinion. There are 20+ reviewers and proof in the twitter and review captures of people bitching about "bland white guy protagonist" or mad about a biker talking dirty to his "ol'lady" . Sorry but knowing many bikers the character was highly relatable. They just don't know bikers, or they don't relate to normal people, as most of them work in San fran or nyc , eat avacado toast sipping latte in their 4k overpriced box apartment, spilling vitirol and calling everything "problematic". The twitter new church ladies didn't exist much prior to 2014.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Their future couldn't be any dimmer in my books. They're making a live service.
They can keep that shit to themselves. Something tells me that their technical and creative prowess will only degrade with that project, as most studios experience when jumping on the low rent Destiny/Division bandwagon.
Just... no. Lol
Two things can be true at once. Garvin can be correct about everything he's saying, and Days Gone can still not be as good as any of those games.
It's probably the least technically polished 1st party PlayStation game released throughout all of last gen.
It's zombies without the same level of storytelling as Last of Us.
It's open world without the same visual splendor, mechanical tightness or conceptual uniqueness of Horizon. Uncharted can't really be compared to it in any way, but I don't think anyone who's played these games is going to argue that practically all the Uncharted games are better executed than Days Gone.
That's what this post stinks of: Someone who hasn't played any of the named games.
thegame983
Member
Protagonist's skin colour.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I can't deny this. Although I really, really hope Druckmann didn't intend Manny to be a visual self-insert. Lmao
The story being what it is is a shame. I've seen worse, but it's very very flawed. But there's elements of good in the performances, and the visuals (next gen notwithstanding), animations, gameplay and level design are practically unmatched IMO.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Missed the action. All the tweets on the first few pages are deleted.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Who would have guessed that the Bend Studios Community Manager on Twitter would say positive stuff on the same day to counter whatever negative tweets were done today (which I dont know what they are as they are deleted now).
Give the guy credit. He's watching twitter 24/7 ready to respond to anything.
I thought I worked at a great company. My last company was pretty good too. But nobody in my HR department has ever tweeted anything about how it's such a great cozy place to work at. Going by the Bend Community Manager maybe Im missing out. Going by his tweet, it sounds like the awesomest place to to work. lol
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Batiman
Banned
Who complained about that?
Batiman
Banned
Maybe horizon and GOT. But GOW and uncharted are pretty great. Uncharted 4 not so much as I feel I was in control of the character 20% of the game. Still a great experience if your into a cinematic game
GnomeChimpsky
Member
It's all in the thread man, stop being obtuse.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The bigots were mainly whining about sexual orientation, but a few did go off the deep end when using their lemming language of "white CIS"
I thought it was set in Oregon…
cinnamonandgravy
Member
really hoping for a sequel.
MacReady13
Member
Funny to me how we have MANY games come out in a poor state and not 1 reviewer will mention the bugs UNTIL they have a game they can pick on for these woke points, and all of a sudden the bugs get mentioned non stop.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Face it, people like brown and or female characters now.
The stats speak for themselves.
remember_spinal
Banned
Seems like they’re in a much better place now. People also forget Days Gone took like 7 years to make. A lot of sony studios are getting more resources and funding to be bettter managed.
remember_spinal
Banned
*Looks at the two highest rated games this year
ANIMAL1975
Member
The game is no Pentiment or Wash Simulator, but it was fun to play with its flaws.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People like good games.
This is not a correlation of anything from a small microcosm of indoctrinated bigots that focus on immutable characteristics to make up their entire shallow existence.
Toons
Member
Dude sounds insecure af.
Game wasn't even panned or anything but hes crying like this and blaming reviews were not absolutely fellating his game?
Trying to attach race or politics to it when it got reviewed as a decent game by most outlets just screams of wanting clicks rather than a genuine sentiment. Itd be one thing if its something reviewers hated but most players absolutely loved.
Video game discourse is in the toilet as is because of this nonsense. We never recovered from that stupid gamergate thing apparently.
EDIT: Dude deleted the tweet. He def got what he wanted lol. Hope it was worth it.
Game wasn't even panned or anything but hes crying like this and blaming reviews were not absolutely fellating his game?
Trying to attach race or politics to it when it got reviewed as a decent game by most outlets just screams of wanting clicks rather than a genuine sentiment. Itd be one thing if its something reviewers hated but most players absolutely loved.
Video game discourse is in the toilet as is because of this nonsense. We never recovered from that stupid gamergate thing apparently.
EDIT: Dude deleted the tweet. He def got what he wanted lol. Hope it was worth it.
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Batiman
Banned
Fake
Gold Member
I gave 8, but I decrease to 7 after Deacon last camp. I guess everyone who played DG agree that the last camp about militia was mix bag.
But the game still have a huge base, they could easily reuse most of what is inside there to make a great game.
Most of Sony first party game started in little steps, improving every aspect after sequel. So, my point in this regard is that Sony division read a lot of unecessary hate about this game on social media, with was already proved never the target from this sorts of game.
Just an example, this new Need for Speed. Twitter loved this game, but even with tweeets been pushed, can't saved from a terrible market from EAs part.
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Barakov
Member
I think all of those are a playe a part but the fact the hordes were just unfun to fight was my bigger issue. Overall, I think it's an interesting game but I got gatekept by a horde in an underground section and I just said 'eff it' and watched the rest of the game on youtube.
Fake
Gold Member
SaucyJack
Member
So he's right, those three issues all affected the reception.
But there’s a fourth reason too, the pacing of the first 10 or so hours of the game is too slow, it doesn’t really get going until you get to the second area. They undoubtedly lost reviewers and players alike due to that. Hordes are the best feature of the game and should have been introduced much earlier.
Overall it’s a really good game though.
But there’s a fourth reason too, the pacing of the first 10 or so hours of the game is too slow, it doesn’t really get going until you get to the second area. They undoubtedly lost reviewers and players alike due to that. Hordes are the best feature of the game and should have been introduced much earlier.
Overall it’s a really good game though.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Hope you're ready for their next live service game they chose as the culture shifted in the studio and they pushed the single player adventure designers out.
semiconscious
Member
i approve of your standards...
Toons
Member
Compare this measured, mature response to what this bozo in the OP was doing. World of different how seriously you get taken when you dont resort to childlike "Omg muh wooooookismmmm!!" Responses
SCB3
Member
He's not completely wrong, but there are more factors, such as:
The best part about the game were the Hordes, and they were great spectacles but poor mechanics to handle them
- The Game was so slow to start, the story really dones't get going until 10-15 hours in, even Assassins Creed games arn't this slow and I'm including the Glacial pace of Valhalla here
- It was too long but about 10 hours, there is a part where the game reaches a natural conclusion and even a tease for a second game ... oh wait nevermind, Deacons wife is alive and there is a whole new large second map to explore!
- This second map is awful and hard to navigate around the central part
- The Zombie genre was played out and oversaturated when it was released
- Open world games were outstaying their welcome around this time as well, RDR2 was out and burnt a lot of people out on Open Worlds
- It was a buggy mess on release
- it wasn't that fun to play
The best part about the game were the Hordes, and they were great spectacles but poor mechanics to handle them
The Stig
Member
correct. my bad
Vick
Gold Member
Never had as much fun as taking down hordes in this game.
What the fuck? The entire open world, every inch of it, is completely unpredictable, randomized and hostile.
It's good from the get go, meaning it controls splendidly, looks stunning, and introduces you to the world.
It's just a slow burn, getting better, and better, and better till the end. Structure is perfect.
And people saying it's too long.. be grateful it is, it's all we are ever going to get.
Duchess
Member
That was my issue, too. The game came to a natural end when Deacon was preparing to head south ... but then we went south, and the game basically repeated itself. Shame. I still very much enjoyed playing it.
hyperbertha
Member
THe very fact that you would say woke in quotes shows where your allegiances lie. And yes, any untrained man can easily go up against a trained female ufc fighter, let alone a combat expert like nathan drake.
Fuz
Banned
tmlDan
Member
Nathan is not a combat expert. They even show this in the combat where its messy (the prison fight is a good example), he gets hit often and he is wonky in his movement - he brutes everything. Also, show me a video of a normie fighting a trained fighter, even if they're female.
Remember, it's a video game so your skills don't directly reflect a real life Nathan (he needs to fight something and they cant be civilians) and the trained ops he fights are poor reflections of anything realistic. They're only there for game purposes, where main characters are greater reflections of real life. But remember, it's a game, stop making it more than what it is - you're fishing for some woke agenda at this point, you can make a better case using LoU2, not uncharted.