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[bigol]

I have this feeling that if this wasn't an Hideo Kojima game it would have reviewed worse.
And yeah, this confirms that there is no sudden change in pace after some time, the game is delivery simulator from beginning to the end, with some realistic elements and a pretty interesting story. But at that point, instead of having to bore me to tears playing it, i would gladly just watch the videos.

I really believe people playing it will be even more harsh with the game.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

I have this feeling that if this wasn't an Hideo Kojima game it would have reviewed worse.
And yeah, this confirms that there is no sudden change in pace after some time, the game is delivery simulator from beginning to the end, with some realistic elements and a pretty interesting story. But at that point, instead of having to bore me to tears playing it, i would gladly just watch the videos.

I really believe people pleying it will be even more harsh with the game.

the game is only popular because of Kojima. he could just film himself saying "fuck you", put it on a the disc instead of the game, and people would praise it to no end.

 

[Kabelly]

man these reviews. but if i can finish red dead 2 i can do anything now. plus reviews hardly influence what i buy. if it looks fun i'll check it out. I platinumed Days Gone after having zero interest in it at first.

 

[Coflash]

Seems like gameplay is utter shit but everything else is amazing and in an age where gameplay has become extremely important

...really?

Compare most games that had 90s or early 2000s variants and gameplay has only suffered since then, more and more as the years have passed. As I see it, the cinematic aspect, power fantasies and accessibility have taken precedence.

My avatar is a perfect example of where this has happened

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

No Man's Sky is one of my most disliked games this generation I found it totally unplayable and boring. Hope this is more on the Metal Gear spectrum.

Did you play NMS at launch or have you played it this year with all the updates ? Because it's a massively different game to what it was at launch, with loads more content and things to do (land vehicles, base building, lots more story content, multiplayer) it's actually a very good space sim now.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

lmao i was expecting everyone to suck up to Kojima and label it a 9/10 or 10/10. glad they aren't.

sounds like a borefest to me. i guess i can just wait for the PC version and buy it dirt cheap....if i ever decide to buy it.

the rabid kojima fans will praise it as some kind of misunderstood and underrated masterpiece.

 

[Kagey K]

You talk too much

It isn't that I talk too much, I think it's that you don't like what I have to say.

Just like all the reviewers you wish choked on the other page.

Kojima isn't the magic game maker/storyteller you seem to want him to be and it hurts you somehow.

I don't get it, but I can empathize with it.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Isknt think that its I talk too much, I think it's that you don't like what I have to say.

Justlike all the reviewers you wish choked on the other page.

Kojima isn't the magic game maker/storyteller you seem to want him to be and it hurts you somehow.

I don't get it, but I can empathize with it.

This is the moment you need to stop talking

Because the more you talk the closer you are to another banhammer and another one of your whining post on mods

 

[Macapala]

What's the point of buying this game? It seems I would get pretty much the same experience watching a let's play on youtube.

 

[Kagey K]

This is the moment you need to stop talking

Because the more you talk the closer you are to another banhammer

Oof.

 

[New Yorks Finest]

Hows era doig these days

 

[down 2 orth]

Not used to seeing a review thread front-loaded with poor reviews, but that's OP's call to make.

 

[Bullet Club]

Death Stranding for PS4, PC Reviews

As divisive as it is intriguing, Death Stranding is the sort of game some will loath, but the vast majority have enjoyed Kojima's latest epic. Using strange new mechanics and introducing a...

www.opencritic.com

 

[Airbus Jr]

Oof.

Yes

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

What's the point of buying this game? It seems I would get pretty much the same experience watching a let's play on youtube.

i might wait for someone to make a movie version. i mean cut out all the gameplay and just stick all the cutscenes together.

 

[mortal]

have this feeling that if this wasn't an Hideo Kojima game it would have reviewed worse.

I don't understand this mentality. This game literally wouldn't even exist if it weren't a Hideo Kojima game.
The thought that you could just lift all of the ideas of Death Stranding and divorce them from all of history and experience from his previously directed games that led up to this game, and just graft them onto any lesser known game designer just does't make any sense.

 

[Kagey K]

Yes

Nice to know it's you with all the power.

I'll make sure to respect it from now on sir.

Tell me how to think. I'm your new servant. Sir.

i just wanted to talk about the review scores for this game, or at least it was the topic I clicked.

 

[DoctorEkkoUK]

How can reviewers give a game 10/10, Are they seriously telling me this is the perfect game, nothing can be improved about it? If so then fair play Kojima

 

[bigol]

the game is only popular because of Kojima. he could just film himself saying "fuck you", put it on a the disc instead of the game, and people would praise it to no end.

I honestly felt like i was taking crazy pills when people hyped this game so much even after watching the gameplay loop and even after Kojima himself said it was going to be mostly that way.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

I don't understand this mentality. This game literally wouldn't even exist if it weren't a Hideo Kojima game.
The idea that you could just lift all of the ideas of Death Stranding and divorce them all of history and experience from his previously directed games that led up to this game, and just graft them onto any lesser known game designer just does't make any sense.

jeez. you know what they meant.

IF this exact game was made by any one else it wouldn't be as popular or reviewed as good (as poor as they are). it's only because people think of Kojima as some kind of genius that people are even interested in the game.

I honestly felt like i was taking crazy pills when people hyped this game so much even after watching the gameplay loop and even after Kojima himself said it was going to be mostly that way.

been expecting this all along. his fans will just go crazy and hype themselves up to their eyeballs.

it could have scored lower and it'd still be considered a piece of art. a masterpiece. etc etc.

 

[mortal]

Not used to seeing a review thread front-loaded with poor reviews, but that's OP's call to make.

huh?

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[bigol]

I don't understand this mentality. This game literally wouldn't even exist if it weren't a Hideo Kojima game.
The thought that you could just lift all of the ideas of Death Stranding and divorce them from all of history and experience from his previously directed games that led up to this game, and just graft them onto any lesser known game designer just does't make any sense.

I mean the name Hideo Kojima and all the aura surrounding him and people considering him as some kind of genius are helping keeping scores higher.

 

[GHG]

Nobody cares what you think here everyone already knows youre an xbox astroturfer

Your opinion regarding death stranding or the last of us II doesnt have any weight or significance since we already knew you always have ulterior motives against playstation game in general

My guy was previously banned because of this game but yet he is still relentlessly posting nonsense in these threads.

Show us on the doll where Kojima and Sony touched you.

Those "fuckers" who play FIFA all the time do so for 3 reasons: they're football fans, they're addicted to ultimate team & they're also addicted to the competitiveness of the multiplayer irrespective of the actual gameplay. Ditto Call of Duty, Destiny etc. In any case it's not about "emotions" when playing those games (i.e. which jeuxvideo.com for example used in its 19/20 Death Stranding score). Even at best, such concepts (i.e. emotions) are entirely subjective to the person reviewing it & should merit a caveat: "I enjoyed the emotional experience, some might not..". Video games are not movies, so they cannot (at least in theory) be judged on the same criteria. Reading some of these Death Stranding reviews makes me think certain outlets have forgotten that.

I just don't think most "gamers" have reached the point where feels > gameplay is a reality yet.

So you think competitive multiplayer is not emotional?

You think when the game decides it's going to script things in your opponents favour and make you lose because of some bullshit completely out of your control it's not emotional?

You think that when people spend hundreds/thousands of pounds on microtransactions/lootcrates in these games they are making a logical decision because of the "tight gameplay" and it's not at all emotional?

If you think that this form of entertainment medium is not emotional and doesn't aim to prod at our emotions and vulnerabilities then you are kidding yourself.

It doesn't matter whether you beat a boss in Dark Souls after the 10th time of trying, made it to top rank in a multiplayer game after hundreds of hours of grinding, or beat a story driven game and felt something for the characters, it's all emotional.

That is why ultimately, at a fundamental level, you need to experience and play games in order to decide whether or not you feel positively about them or not. It's all just sensory feedback in one way or another. Everyone's brains are wired differently so we will all value different types of experiences to different degrees.

Thankfully, in gaming there is room for a wide range of different types of experiences. It would be boring if all we ever got was one type of game with "tight gameplay" because a bunch of diehards on a forum decided that is all that's allowed.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Nice to know it's you with all the power.

I'll make sure to respect it from now on sir.

Tell me how to think. I'm your new servant. Sir.

i just wanted to talk about the review scores for this game, or at least it was the topic I clicked.

Indeed

Im glad we could come to good understanding at each other

 

[Kagey K]

I mean the name Hideo Kojima and all the aura surrounding him and people considering him as some kind of genius are helping keeping scores higher.

The name is going to mean less after this and all the ass kissing Geoff did previously.

His games were mostly miss with a couple hits, but those hits were big. This failure won't sink him, but the next one might.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I keep seeing an online component to the game and how important it is but do I need ps+ to be able to use it..?

 

[VertigoOA]

Is it even a fucking game!?

I was a Kojima fanboy but this just looks like escort missions and delivering shit.

where's the action!?

it honestly looks like a pile of shit...

I'm going to have to buy it anyway.


MGSV is the best third person shooter sandbox game there is. Snake Eater is the best MGS game. Kojima is great... but his Hollywood dickriding is disgusting.

 

[Kagey K]

Indeed

Im glad we could come to good understanding at each other

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

oh this is hilarious. i'm looking at all the games with better scores than Death Stranding.

fifa 17, super meat boy, far cry 4, ratchet & clank, super mega baseball, nba 2k14, sonic mania, fallout 4,

just to name a few.....

well done kojima you genius.

 

[GymWolf]

Are there no reviews like: "10/10: the game just keeps delivering"?

underrated post, bravo!

 

[j0hnnix]

oh this is hilarious. i'm looking at all the games with better scores than Death Stranding.

fifa 17, super meat boy, far cry 4, ratchet & clank, super mega baseball, nba 2k14, sonic mania, fallout 4,

just to name a few.....

well done kojima you genius.

Forgot Luigi's Mansion 3. actually it reviewed better.

 

[GHG]

What?

What?

Live footage of Kagey K:

 

[DoctorEkkoUK]

Is it even a fucking game!?

I was a Kojima fanboy but this just looks like escort missions and delivering shit.

Ermmm.. it's a strand game!?!?

 

[Kagey K]

Live footage of Kagey K:

You do you man, I'm done wasting my time.

 

[Ogbert]

Been watching the reviews and chuckling to myself.

You have to hand it to Kojima. His ability to hoodwink the gaming press is outstanding. He's like one of those 18th Century courtesans that sailed from kingdom to kingdom, extracting money out of gullible monarchs.

The game sounds absolutely fucking terrible! It's utter dogshit. He's made a UPS delivery simulator with a backdrop of symbolic gibberish that makes no sense. And it is *GLORIOUS* to see reviewers contort themselves into claiming it's some quasi-religious experience. What a bunch of wallies! They're just terrified of being the one person that says 'lads, it's shit'.

Will definitely pick it up down the line, for shits and giggles.

Well played Kojima. Well played Sir.

 

[bigol]

I watched a review saying "the game wants you to feel bored" and then the 8/10 score.

They say that like there is some grand scheme by Kojima giving boredom a new meaning. Like the game is intentionally boring so it's ok.

A boring game, even if perfectly functional, is a boring game and it doesn't deserve an 8. That's one example of score not corresponding to reviews words.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

Been watching the reviews and chuckling to myself.

You have to hand it to Kojima. His ability to hoodwink the gaming press is outstanding. He's like one of those 18th Century courtesans that sailed from kingdom to kingdom, extracting ever more money out gullible monarchs.

The game sounds absolutely fucking terrible! It's utter dogshit. He's made a UPS delivery simulator with a backdrop of symbolic gibberish that makes no sense. And it is *GLORIOUS* to see reviewers contort themselves into claiming it's some quasi-religious experience. What a bunch of wallies! They're just terrified of being the one person that says 'lads, it's shit'.

Will definitely pick it up down the line, for shits and giggles.

Well played Kojima. Well played Sir.

if it turns out Kojima is just a troll out to make fun of the gaming industry then i might actually start to respect him.

 

[GHG]

You do you man, I'm done wasting my time.

What?

 

[Max_Po]

What?

 

[Moonjt9]

The reviews being all over the place is actually making me more interested in this game!

 

[GHG]

Death Stranding |OT| : What?

 

[GreyHorace]

Just watched the Easy Allies review. Man, not what I was expecting. I thought Kojima would nail the gameplay aspect right despite the story being predictably bonkers as is always the case with him. To hear that the combat and stealth elements get repetitive is disappointing. I expected better from the guy who created the Metal Gear Solid series.

As it said in the review, it looks like the game nails the traversal mechanics and allowing you the freedom to figure out how best to clear obstacles. The fact that you spend a great deal traversing a lonely wilderness doesn't bother me. A lot of people complained about that aspect in Red Dead Redemption 2, but I personally loved it. But I'm kind burnt out on travelling in wide open spaces within games, so it's a pass for me.

As for the story, I figured it would be your standard Kojima gobbledygook with frequent exposition dumps and plot twists that come out of nowhere. Again, he's not a good storyteller and I've known since the first MGS. He really should have stuck to the game design aspects and less on bringing Hollywood talent and production values to what is essentially a fricking walking simulator.

I may try it at some point. But only on sale.

 

[mortal]

jeez. you know what they meant.

IF this exact game was made by any one else it wouldn't be as popular or reviewed as good (as poor as they are). it's only because people think of Kojima as some kind of genius that people are even interested in the game.


been expecting this all along. his fans will just go crazy and hype themselves up to their eyeballs.

it could have scored lower and it'd still be considered a piece of art. a masterpiece. etc etc.

No I don't know what you mean. If I did, I wouldn't have bothered responding as I did, no?

I just don't get the point of that logic. You're gauging the reception and reducing all of the history and trial & error that leads to a game like Death Stranding to cult of celebrity.
The reason why Kojima even has a reputation to begin with is due to his recognizable and particular approach to game design apart from other game designers.

 

[JimiNutz]

It didn't really look like my kind of game based on the footage and the reviews, although not bad, reinforce that I probably won't enjoy this.

It does sound interesting in some ways though so will wait until I can get it cheap/for free.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

The name is going to mean less after this and all the ass kissing Geoff did previously.

His games were mostly miss with a couple hits, but those hits were big. This failure won't sink him, but the next one might.

Not really sure I would call this a failure, it's average score is 84 / 85 on Meta & Opencritic, so it seems like Kojima and his team have made a really good game, it's just not going to be everyone's cup of tea because it's different to most other games.

 

[rashbeep]

was higher than I was expecting

 

[GymWolf]

if you take a look at the ign italy review you can almost read the gl gl gl typical sound of the author trying not to choke himself with kojima's dick in his mouth, hilarious

(game already on preorder and a kojima fan myself so don't bullshit me with the hater thing please)

 

[Kagey K]

Not really sure I would call this a failure, it's average score is 84 / 85 on Meta & Opencritic, so it seems like Kojima and his team have made a really good game, it's just not going to be everyone's cup of tea because it's different to most other games.

Let's wait until we see the Black Friday discounts and the NPD, I agree.

Its not going to blow the doors off the barn though come next week.

 

[Geki-D]

oh this is hilarious. i'm looking at all the games with better scores than Death Stranding.

fifa 17, super meat boy, far cry 4, ratchet & clank, super mega baseball, nba 2k14, sonic mania, fallout 4,

just to name a few.....

well done kojima you genius.

Meanwhile games with the same score and lower include Gears 5, Halo 5, Red Alert 2, Borderlands 3, Modern Warfare 2019, Resident Evil 0, Beyond Good & Evil, Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Halo ODST, Resident Evil 5, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, nearly all Yakuza games... To name a few.

So I guess they're all shit.