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QP3

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So, let's see...farming materials is not the proudest thing I have done. Any word on if they are going to add new/different eayd to acquire the mats for upgrades?
 

X-Frame

Member
So if Gjallarhorn is a 10 in terms of overall rocket launcher strength/damage effectiveness, what would Hezen Vengeance be on the same scale?
 
So, in attempting to complete the Aetheon battle on hard today, here are just some of the issues that we ran into:

-Aetheon having absolutely zero problem shooting blasts directly through the Relic Shield

-Aetheon's blasts hitting the rocky outcrop on the left side of the middle platform, and the splash damage happily crossing through the relic shield barrier and killing people as far as the far-right side of the platform.

-The Minotaur on Venus REGAINING HEALTH WHEN YOU SMASHED HIM WITH THE SHIELD

-Crossing through the gate, only to arrive back on the future/past area, probably close to blind


But THANK GAWD we can't assign teams to head into the portals anymore! That might really have ruined the experience, huh Bungie?

This might be the most successful $60 beta in history.

We encountered all of the above today as well. And all I got was ass mats and a frigging chatterwhite. :/. Was a good group, though.
 

phen0m24

Member
Looking for a few more for Normal Raid, doesn't matter if you are experienced or not. Just be at least 26 with some leveled weapons. No pressure Normal run.

Madgame that was super fun. Thanks for the invite and for being so dang accommodating. If you guys heard my boys trying to titan smash each other the whole time I apologize.

Note to Hawkian: With the Hunter I made the jumping puzzle on the first go. I saved the video! Lol

But thank you guys for the round. My son, like Blaze, wanted a Hawkmoon. (As Nimon was dual wielding them) I told him to pipe down as he got my shards.

All in all, I had a freaking great time. Thank you thank you guys!!!

PSN ColonelOCorn
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
So if Gjallarhorn is a 10 in terms of overall rocket launcher strength/damage effectiveness, what would Hezen Vengeance be on the same scale?
I don't know Hezen Vengeance but a raw comparison isn't super fair- "Is a Legendary" is a really good quality in any gun. From hearsay however, pure comparison, 8.5. No tracking is a major disadvantage, 3 rounds a major advantage. The rest of the mods/qualities are fairly similar, but Gjallarhorn's additional raw damage + the fact that both its main shots and WOLFPACK ROUNDS track for near-guaranteed damage make it objectively a better launcher.
Note to Hawkian: With the Hunter I made the jumping puzzle on the first go. I saved the video! Lol
lol! well done. I'm gonna be trying for the first time with my warlock very soon.
 

chewydogg

Member
So today I noticed that my ammo packs were not working all the time. Maybe 1 out of 3 would actually give me ammo, but the cool down would still activate every time. Anyone else having this happen?

Also, I hit 29 today. Now I just need the raid boots like everyone else...

Edit:

if you don't have a free space your in inventory under the consumable menu when you use it, it will glitch.

Well then...
 

JayEH

Junior Member
So, in attempting to complete the Aetheon battle on hard today, here are just some of the issues that we ran into:

-Aetheon having absolutely zero problem shooting blasts directly through the Relic Shield

-Aetheon's blasts hitting the rocky outcrop on the left side of the middle platform, and the splash damage happily crossing through the relic shield barrier and killing people as far as the far-right side of the platform.

-The Minotaur on Venus REGAINING HEALTH WHEN YOU SMASHED HIM WITH THE SHIELD

-Crossing through the gate, only to arrive back on the future/past area, probably close to blind


But THANK GAWD we can't assign teams to head into the portals anymore! That might really have ruined the experience, huh Bungie?

This might be the most successful $60 beta in history.

My group was having trouble with him too. Bugs would always happen when we either got a lot of damage on him in one go or were close to getting him. Splash damage inside the shield, regaining health, we even had it once where we he telepored 2 of us on one side and 1 on another.

We were making jokes that soon Bungie will release patch notes saying: "Fixed bug where players were killing Atheon." lol
 

rNilla

Member
Well crap, missed my hard raid group - I don't suppose there's anyone out there looking for one more for Gatekeepers or slightly earlier? Or five other people that want to do hard raid starting at Gatekeepers? I have a 29 Hunter with maxed VoC, IB and Horn.
 

LiK

Member
Sucks but it's not your fault this game has a lot of work to be done for the flawless run. Ran so many times after the patch and it's just a glitch fest.

Yea, was still fun and now I know your strategies for the Atheon glitch fight. But everyone was tired by that time. The lag was hilarious at the end.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
So if Gjallarhorn is a 10 in terms of overall rocket launcher strength/damage effectiveness, what would Hezen Vengeance be on the same scale?
8 or 8.5 maybe.

I have both maxed and Hezen hits hard but it's not as efficient due to the lack of homing on the cluster bombs.

It's definitely a worthy stopgap. Gjallahorn really is in it's own class though.
 
I don't know Hezen Vengeance but a raw comparison isn't super fair- "Is a Legendary" is a really good quality in any gun. From hearsay however, pure comparison, 8.5. No tracking is a major disadvantage, 3 rounds a major advantage. The rest of the mods/qualities are fairly similar, but Gjallarhorn's additional raw damage + the fact that both its main shots and WOLFPACK ROUNDS track for near-guaranteed damage make it objectively a better launcher.

lol! well done. I'm gonna be trying for the first with my warlock very soon.

As a Hezen user, I'd say this is an accurate statement. A couple other disadvantages are the reload speed (though again, 6 rounds of 3 round clips vs the G's 5 rounds of 2 round clips) and the velocity, which is noticeably slower even before factoring in the monumental benefits of the tracking and Wolfpack Rounds.

Still though, it's a fantastic mob clearing weapon in a situation where you otherwise would have been overwhelmed due to the good cluster effect. If you can't get a hold of the G-Horn or rocking an exotic in another slot, Hezen is probably the best alt to run with.
 
Since the raid was made available i can happily say i have only done it 3 times, currently i am sitting on a Lvl 28 Hunter as my highest level character and it feels like i'm going no where, i've been at that level for almost a month now. Why you may ask .. well i know if i upgrade any of my gear i will easily get to level 29 BUT not 30 as i need to do the raid countless times in order to get the right gear.

I feel like i'm being punished for not choosing to raid. Its not that i hate doing the raid, i just dont see the point in it, I dont find it as much fun as other aspects of the game. Yet Bungie make it a mandatory feature of the game in order for you to get to level 30 and probably 32 when the expansion drops. AND IT PISSES ME RIGHT OFF!!

The game as it stands its broken beyond disbelief and with the random gear drops who knows how many hours i have to pump into this game to get any good gear. I work 9-6 5 days a week so in the evenings i tend to hop on for at least 2-3 hours of gaming ( i tend to mix it up between Diablo, Destiny and COD) and my days off are the only time i get to socialise with other people i.e the GF.

Heres my solutions to this dilemma that i know many people have with this game.. Instead of just having the raid to get good gear Bungie should also have Gear Bounties that are just as challenging to do and are guaranteed to take some time but the pay off is a piece of armour that will help you reach level 30 or 32. To help make sure that these do not get farmed Xur should be the one who gives them out as an item to buy for an amount of strange coin .. for example he will sell the bounty for a chest piece for x amount of strange coin and each week its a different piece of gear. This will allow players to mix up their style of play and not just restrict them to doing the raid. However the bounties are much harder than the Exotic weapon bounties and once you are done with it, you simply return to Xur for your new shiny piece of gear..

Just a thought i had while i'm eating some Chinese.. what do you guys think. Would this idea be viable in destiny
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Yea, was still fun and now I know your strategies for the Atheon glitch fight. But everyone was tired by that time. The lag was hilarious at the end.

Yeh, I was definitely feeling the fatigue at that point anyway. If we'd made it to Atheon a few tries before I think we'd have done really well.

We got very, very close on that last run with Matt. Closest we've been since the patch.

And now we know exactly what to do in that spot next time it's just about execution now. Just a matter of time.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
Since the raid was made available i can happily say i have only done it 3 times, currently i am sitting on a Lvl 28 Hunter as my highest level character and it feels like i'm going no where, i've been at that level for almost a month now. Why you may ask .. well i know if i upgrade any of my gear i will easily get to level 29 BUT not 30 as i need to do the raid countless times in order to get the right gear.

I feel like i'm being punished for not choosing to raid. Its not that i hate doing the raid, i just dont see the point in it, I dont find it as much fun as other aspects of the game. Yet Bungie make it a mandatory feature of the game in order for you to get to level 30 and probably 32 when the expansion drops. AND IT PISSES ME RIGHT OFF!!

The game as it stands its broken beyond disbelief and with the random gear drops who knows how many hours i have to pump into this game to get any good gear. I work 9-6 5 days a week so in the evenings i tend to hop on for at least 2-3 hours of gaming ( i tend to mix it up between Diablo, Destiny and COD) and my days off are the only time i get to socialise with other people i.e the GF.

Heres my solutions to this dilemma that i know many people have with this game.. Instead of just having the raid to get good gear Bungie should also have Gear Bounties that are just as challenging to do and are guaranteed to take some time but the pay off is a piece of armour that will help you reach level 30 or 32. To help make sure that these do not get farmed Xur should be the one who gives them out as an item to buy for an amount of strange coin .. for example he will sell the bounty for a chest piece for x amount of strange coin and each week its a different piece of gear. This will allow players to mix up their style of play and not just restrict them to doing the raid. However the bounties are much harder than the Exotic weapon bounties and once you are done with it, you simply return to Xur for your new shiny piece of gear..

Just a thought i had while i'm eating some Chinese.. what do you guys think. Would this idea be viable in destiny

Iron Banner is supposed to let you buy lvl 30 gear next time it rolls out supposedly.
 

Ambitious

Member
I don't know Hezen Vengeance but a raw comparison isn't super fair- "Is a Legendary" is a really good quality in any gun. From hearsay however, pure comparison, 8.5. No tracking is a major disadvantage, 3 rounds a major advantage. The rest of the mods/qualities are fairly similar, but Gjallarhorn's additional raw damage + the fact that both its main shots and WOLFPACK ROUNDS track for near-guaranteed damage make it objectively a better launcher.

lol! well done. I'm gonna be trying for the first time with my warlock very soon.

8 or 8.5 maybe.

I have both maxed and Hezen hits hard but it's not as efficient due to the lack of homing on the cluster bombs.

It's definitely a worthy stopgap. Gjallahorn really is in it's own class though.

And what about Truth?
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Maxed Sunsinger and hit 26 on my Warlock. Voidwalker time! Can any experts give me a rundown on the pros/cons of the voidwalker grenades?
And what about Truth?
7.5 (but 10 during Void Burns) ;)

Not a legendary, no clusters at all, 2 rounds, but awesome homing and if you shoot it at something you're almost guaranteed to do damage. It's just a little less fantastic overall as a launcher than either of the others. During Void Burns though it erases everything in front of you, god it's fun.
 

Agent

Member
Thanks to Agent/Phantom for the Hard raid group. We almost choked at the end but we pulled through. I can't tell you how happy I am that I finally have the helmet for my Hunter. :)

Congrats again and to everyone who got loot! Sad I didn't get a helmet, but there is always next week. Took a bit to get over the weird glitches but we made it through.

Its frustrating these glitches still exist almost 2 months after release with no acknowledgement from Bungie.
 
Yeh, I was definitely feeling the fatigue at that point anyway. If we'd made it to Atheon a few tries before I think we'd have done really well.

We got very, very close on that last run with Matt. Closest we've been since the patch.

And now we know exactly what to do in that spot next time it's just about execution now. Just a matter of time.
Yeah I felt everyone was in zombine/auto pilot mode for that last Templar battle since it suddenly got all quiet after the chatters :p . Defend, shoot, run to the cave and then repeat it again.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Halfway in between. Doesn't have the mob clearing with the cluster bombs, but the tracking is very aggressive and great for pretorians and atheon. Feels like like rof and reload is really fast too, but I haven't compared stats.
in between on the "pure" comparison, but it DOES take your exotic slot which puts it below Hezen- of course Hezen and Gjallar are both Solar and Truth is Void so it's great to have regardless.
 

kuppy

Member
Oh well, gonna organize a new team myself.
Level 30 would be nice, but if you think you can do it just fine on 29 then go ahead, no problem.

I haven't done a raid this week so that's why I prefer to start from the beginning and take all chests (not including the 5th, unless everybody really wants to).

Starting whenever the team is full:
  1. kuppii930 (Hunter, 30)
  2. -
  3. -
  4. -
  5. -
  6. -

Just message me on PSN, I gonna invite you to a party till the team groups up.
 

EL CUCO

Member
I would say

Henzen 8.5
Truth 9
Godhorn 100

Truth gets that extra nudge from me is the lock on, Holy Shit, I just have to aim it stupidly, watch that rocket chase after someone is an amazing experience

watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjDVS3uXOjg

You lock on, shoot, and move away, let it do the work

I can vouch for this. I find Hezen great for crowd control. Blasting a rocket into a crowd of adds is awesome with it, due to cluster bombs. Bosses, I'll give to to the Truth.

I was running Hezen on Atheon and everything was missing :( switched to Truth and goodnight. Only The G-Horn tops it.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
The issue I have with Hezen is that it has no Tracking. I use a void Exodus Plan for 2 months now, and it rolled with Tracking. Its probably the 4th best rocket launcher in the game, as it has the fastest reload of all and a potential 3 in the mag due to clown cartridge. One shots Minotaurs on Hard Vault.

But I only want Gjallerhorn (and mostly to deal serious damage to Praetorians and Gatekeepers... I enjoy machineguns more). Its why I skipped Truth.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Just unlocked another exotic bounty!

Should I go for the Pocket Infinity, Super Good Advice or Bad JuJu?

Pocket Infinity

You will love that FR even with the nerf, trust me
Remember that kill 2 enemies with FR 20 time bounty, can be a pain to line up, with this 5 minutes, bounty is done lol
Still great in PvP =D

Bad Juju is a work in progress by bungie who keeps saying they'll buff it, but no clue when
It's decent with the perk, but holy shit Legendary Pulse Rifles smoke the ever living shit out of it
My strange suspect is more beastly than this thing

SGA sucks major donkey dic
Like a goddamn earthquake going off on your screen while you are shooting it
There's a reason why there's a perk that all bullets missed return back, cause you will miss 90%

I grabbbed SGA 4 times already because it can be done in < 1 hour if Xur is around (which he is for another 8 hours)
I dismantled them for the energy
3 energy for 1 Strange coin is a not a bad swap
 
So, what should I do now that the raid/weekly/nightfall/daily have all been completed for this week? I'd like to find some exotics or legendaries so I assume Crucible? I've been a player since day one but after I do the weekly and daily missions I tend to feel like I should put the game down again until Tuesday.
 

Xamdou

Member
Pocket Infinity

You will love that FR even with the nerf, trust me

Bad Juju is a work in progress by bungie who keeps saying they'll buff it, but no clue when

SGA sucks major donkey dic
Like a goddamn earthquake going off on your screen while you are shooting it
There's a reason why there's a perk that all bullets missed return back, cause you will miss 90%

I grab SGA cause it can be done in < 1 hour if Xur is around (which he is for another 8 hours)
I dismantled them for the energy
3 energy for 1 Strange coin is a not a bad swap

Ok Pocket Infinity it is then!
 
Just unlocked another exotic bounty!

Should I go for the Pocket Infinity, Super Good Advice or Bad JuJu?

Pocket Infinity if you don't have it. Bad Juju pops up more often than it does and we don't have details on the future buff, and Super Good Advice is just a shit MG.
 

forrest

formerly nacire
Just another day in Derpstiny. :(

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My PS3's GPU is on its deathbed.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Yeah I felt everyone was in zombine/auto pilot mode for that last Templar battle since it suddenly got all quiet after the chatters :p . Defend, shoot, run to the cave and then repeat it again.

Yeh. You can tell when we're coming to the end.

Soon man. Each set of attempts has one run that nudges a few steps closer.
 
So, what should I do now that the raid/weekly/nightfall/daily have all been completed for this week? I'd like to find some exotics or legendaries so I assume Crucible? I've been a player since day one but after I do the weekly and daily missions I tend to feel like I should put the game down again until Tuesday.

Start a new character and run through all of those again!

Effect on sanity TBD
 
in between on the "pure" comparison, but it DOES take your exotic slot which puts it below Hezen- of course Hezen and Gjallar are both Solar and Truth is Void so it's great to have regardless.

True. I'm thinking in terms of raid where void is a plus, a missed rocket could cost the game, and personally I don't have any other exotics I want to equip. Out in the rest of PvE, whatever you find the most fun. Any 300 rocket will clean house. If you need the exotic spot, Hezen is a very solid choice.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Ok Pocket Infinity it is then!

Just be on the lookout in this thread when people post Gunsmith selling rare fusion rifles
You'll need 10 to dismantle rare or higher to get one of the tasks done
Save at least 16,000 Glimmer if you can for it

Also I updated my post you quoted for a more detail reasoning
 
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