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So we need 4 more i guess, and yah fresh whole run would be awsome.
One person gets teleported, they go, "fuck the oracles" grab the relic and bail out straight away.
Someone who got the flawless trophy yesterday posted about it.
Ah, that.
I'm up for a hard raid if we can find 3 more people.
PSN Kopyasu
Make that 3, don't mind redoing the earlier parts on hard as long as we get gatekeepers and Aetheon done.
Edit: okay 2.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
I am down however I have to do some reading and have classes in the next few hours. I can be on in ~6 hours
depending how fast I can drive back home
DrDrizzay101
Member
You really have to ask?
Helping some random guy I met during a daily finish his first raid with his buddies, but we are at GKs. Shouldn't be much longer.
Sleepy Buddha
Member
Any videos showing this? Maybe I'm missing something but won't the oracles still kill everyone? And Time's vengeance won't be activated either, right?
I'm down as well, 29 Sun bro. PSN Exhumed1
No need for a video.
Oracles will only kill you inside the portal if you don't take the relic outside. Oracle's wait a set amount if time then kill any marked player, if you escape the portal with the relic and cleanse then they have nothing to kill.
You only need to kill them for Time's Vengeance.
When a single person gets teleported you want to minimise risk. Instead of them trying to stay alive and kill oracles alone while they wait for others to get inside, you just run straight out and don't worry about the buff for that round. Next round, all 3 should get ported and you can carry on as usual.
Dhruv_hanom
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Yes but thats just the first time. After that 3 people will be teleported and you'll get the buff.
My question is that can the portals be opened in time?
Right, does the person with the relic still need to kill oracles until the portal is open? Say, kill 2-3 then just run as fast as they can?
Didn't think about that, maybe a video would be good (or just a detailed explanation).
Ha. I was wondering...
Steroyd, Dhruv? Anyone else up for a flawless?
Mechanics wise it makes sense, when you succumb to oracles the people in the portal get killed first, they then drop the relic and the people outside get killed in that order, if everyone is cleansed it's not an issue, which explains why I'd get killed even if I left the portal.
Also it's a flawless run, survival above all else, the reason we made contingency plans was to survive long enough for the telelporting to un-glitch itself and then it's light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes they can if 3 and 3 are hovering around each portal, the lone ranger would get to the portal by time it opened, my only concern is getting shot up making a break for the portal and getting harpied when they cleanse themself because they're going to need to cleanse themselves the second they leave the portal which is just infront of it (where the harpies spawn.).
Another concern is the making a straight break for the portal, on the left side the hobgoblin placment needs to be kind, don't know about the right though, becuse of that goddamn minotaur.
I'm always up for a flawless, but because it's the day before the reset I'm leaning more towards wanting a hard mode clear done asap.
Also we should do a practice run on Aetheon, we should still have the checkpoint there right?
Ardenyal
Member
I can join if you need one, got you on my friends list from last time.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Yeah, I knew the oracles wouldn't wipe if you got the relic out, but I didn't think the portal could come up in time. According to the other group that got flawless yesterday, it is possible to do.
Edit: Flawless trophy will only take ~1 hour. Next run is the run. I believe.
Great. Looks like we have 3 set.
1. Zakalwe
2. Boguester
3. Ardenyal
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Flawless. Please be jump puzzle perfect. :3
DiscreteCat
Neo Member
Anyone interested in running the vault on normal?
DrDrizzay101
Member
All the cool kids are doing flawless runs. Well, at least 1 flawless run to test the "run out with the relic" theory.
Sleepy Buddha
Member
Still pretty confused about this theory. How do you make sure only one person gets teleported the first time?
And how does it make teleporting safer the afterwards? Do you mean we keep the relic on the other side to help cleanse the people that go through the portal?
And how does it make teleporting safer the afterwards? Do you mean we keep the relic on the other side to help cleanse the people that go through the portal?
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
From what I notice, if no one activates the sync plates when the atheon battle begins, atheon will not teleport anyone. I also think no one has to die as well getting to him. There could be a few rounds where no one gets teleports and over X rounds, ~1 person will be teleported. After the ~1 person is teleported, every round after that, the proper amount of people will be teleported.
edit: Guess I mixed up the sync plates and getting to atheon with no one deaths
You're definitely confused.
You're not trying to get one person teleported. This is what happens:
When you get to Atheon with 0 deaths a set of glitches tend to happen (almost guaranteed).
1. He'll teleport 0 players. This can happen once or it can happen a few times in a row. If this happens you wait it out, kill supplicants, and dps Atheon as best you can.
2. He'll teleport only 1 player. If this happens you have to try to solo while others get the portal open and rush through to help. Instead of doing that, it seems you can simply rush out with the relic and play it safe.
After he teleports 1, if you survive, it (for us at least) always resets to teleporting 3 and you can carry on as normal.
Tactic is for "What if only 1 gets teleported?" -situation.
ethomaz
Banned
It Is a workaround to not lost the flawless trophy if the game glitches and teleport only one guy.
PS. The game glitches a lot... one guy teleported is more common than acceptable.
It's really horrible how totally bugged the final Atheon encounter in the game is... And it's funny how do many people are finding interesting strategies to get passed the terrible bugs.... And it's really sad that Bungie is fixing non-bugs in the encounter because their mad at the player base for cheesing and in the process they create worse and bigger encounter destroying glitches.
Sleepy Buddha
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From what I notice, if no one activates the sync plates when the atheon battle begins, atheon will not teleport anyone. I also think no one has to die as well getting to him. There could be a few rounds where no one gets teleports and over X rounds, ~1 person will be teleported. After the ~1 person is teleported, every round after that, the proper amount of people will be teleported.
edit: Guess I mixed up the sync plates and getting to atheon with no one deaths
Huh, I had not noticed that. Our group is trying to kill Atheon on hard, but since we're all 29s it's really hard. Maybe if we don't get teleported for a few round and are able to dump on him for a bit with Icebreakers we can do a bit of damage to make it easier. Will still have to deal with the suplicants though...
Is this happening? :3
Doesn´t look like it, still missing that one person, and if it is to happen i got like 4 - 5 hours before i gotta go work.
Johan Liebert
Member
I'm down. Unknown837.
I added you on psn. 3 of us waiting in party chat. It won't take 3-4 hours. :3
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
You have to make it to Atheon without any deaths for that to occur. Sorry if I somehow confused you more. if you guys need help, I can assist later on today. The issues is without any teleports, killing Atheon will take much longer eps for lvl29 on hard. If that happens he will enrage and summon alot of suplicants on crack, which moves extremely fast and come out of the walls as well. And its game over.
noomi
Member
Getting real frustrated with Atheon on hard mode. Tried with 5 different groups through lfg and we just can't down him. Can't come close, need more 30's I guess....
Will be trying again tonight for one last time after work before the reset, I'll probably ask around here if anyone is interested in a couple of hours.
Will be trying again tonight for one last time after work before the reset, I'll probably ask around here if anyone is interested in a couple of hours.
ethomaz
Banned
If my Titan alt reaches 30 until night I will be glad to help...
Ok adding you.
Steroyd, myself, and Geneijin are waiting in party chat now.
Trying to invite exhumed and aengeredx.
We're ready to go whenever everyone joins.
Johan Liebert
Member
Alright, just finishing up the daily.
The only thing bad about this gun is that it is not Ice Breaker
Sleepy Buddha
Member
Oh ok. I had missed that this is exclusively for flawless.
Ah, we're just trying to get some raid gear. The raid has been really stingy with us, only ass mats and cosmetics. I participated in a hard raid with a couple of 30s and we managed to get to Atheon but didn't have time to kill him.
I shared the checkpoint with my regular group just to see if we could kill him and get something, but we haven't managed so far.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Anyone down for fresh run of raid on Normal this morning starting around 9-930am Central (3-330pm UK time I think??, daylight savings throws me off)
I've run it with my 30 and 29 this week, still need to do a quick run on my 28. I can do the raid in my sleep, so I'd prefer experienced players, but all are welcome. In case you're wondering, I just don't bother with hard mode much anymore b/c it's mostly a waste of my time since the only drop I would use would be the helmet, and even then I don't NEED it on any character to get to 30.
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I've run it with my 30 and 29 this week, still need to do a quick run on my 28. I can do the raid in my sleep, so I'd prefer experienced players, but all are welcome. In case you're wondering, I just don't bother with hard mode much anymore b/c it's mostly a waste of my time since the only drop I would use would be the helmet, and even then I don't NEED it on any character to get to 30.
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ethomaz
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The drops seems the same since Destiny launch for me... I guess it is Bungie side (when they post patchs the drops are more constants).
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Flawless runs happening today? I'll be ready in 1 hour. Need to clear my head after too much drinking at the PAX after party.
Had one or two the last two nights. One during a Nightfall and one patrolling. Frustrating for sure.
I have a checkpoint at atheon but I am willing to start from the beginning
Around 2 est
DrDrizzay101
Member
We tried to get a group going a little bit ago but didn't have enough people. Right now we've got a group of 6 scheduled to meet at 2:30pm EST. If anyone has to drop out and you can meet then, definitely let us know.
Talked with some folks earlier and right now the lineup is:
1.) Me
2.) Matt
3.) Cyborg
4.) Astro
5.) Dhruv
6.) Steroyd
If anyone can't make it just send us a PSN message or post here.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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So like in 6 hours? I should be awake.
If anything earlier and there is a spot, I'll hop on.
If anything earlier and there is a spot, I'll hop on.
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