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Destiny |OT9| Suros Business
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You're under the assumption that the entire destiny user base is aware of arc, void and solar damage concepts and are forgetting that it a two-edged sword mechanic in these strikes.
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You work for bungie don't you?
scarletham
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Good point, adds really are the biggest pain in the ass on that fight. Appreciate the tip.
figadapaura
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You don't have to decrypt green engrams at your level. They automatically decrypt on pick up. If you picked it up at the same time as the reward drops it would appear on the screen with the rewards.
BMO = GOAT
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Who is doing normal raid? Or weekly?
milkham
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I actually found out today a guy i have been playing with for weeks didn't know about elemental damage, or he forgot
Sleepy Buddha
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Seems like someone is asking for more ascendant materials to upgrade another exotic armor piece...
I sure am! If I get another Heart of the Praxic Fire with more Discipline than mine in tonight's Nightfall, I'll be very happy and will absolutely max it.
Hell, I bought another Voidfang Vestments last Friday from Xur because it had more base strength than mine maxed. Had it fully upgraded by Sunday night. Only regret having dismantled the old ones, could have used them on an alt if I get around to starting one.
Since raid gear keeps eluding me, gotta use those shards on something...
PrivateWHudson
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Hard to reply to the quote in the quote, but I'll try to address what I can. I think (not sure thought) 3 people get teleported, and 3 people get detained. Were you down a man when you got detained in the portal? If you only have 5, then there would be overlap, portal and detained.
So many things can go wrong during a fight that may leave you marked. Not sure if I could tell without a video.
Portals were wonky before the patch.
Relic would allow splash damage if not used correctly before the patch.
I'm not sure about the Templar fight. I don't know how that could be related to the Atheon patch.
I don't know how four could get teleported, that could truly be a new bug.
Bottom line, I think we were inadvertently cheesing Atheon before we even started cheesing him, and now that it's been patched, we have to rethink what the actual mechanics are of the fight.
I was with an experienced crew, but some of the guys used to always be outside guys and didn't have a clue that the oracles needed to be killed in order. Small stuff like that is all throughout the fight and can cause the encounter to feel buggy.
Cool!
No but even if we were not sure why you should get detained in the portal.
Bottom line: the ultimate encounter in Destiny contains numerous game breaking bugs... And many more post-patch than there were pre-patch.
I agree with you. The only machine gun I like better is the Thunderlord but that's an exotic (and not worth the exotic slot, probably). The corrective measure is basically a super powered auto rifle. Just so accurate.
I've never heard of forcing everyone to be a jack of all trades in a raid. In fact it sounds stupid as hell.
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
Anyone who just started playing and wanna party please add. I'm just level 6 and already getting my ass kicked sometimes and it feels boring playing alone.
PSN: nortonff
PSN: nortonff
Please tell me why you'd believe this.
Honestly, guys, it's usually incompetence before malevolence. Same here, it's probably just RNG.
I pretty much always grab the relic nowadays, but when I didn't we'd mow the oracles down quick enough where the order isn't a problem.
Is this true, though? If so it would explain an issue I saw last night.
Well, there's not really a tank or medic class. Everyone is DPS.
The mechanics for relic, oracles, or supplicant duty are pretty simple to grasp. I don't think it's asking much to know the entire fight.
Random teleports are not an issue if the encounter was bug free.
Rockets > MGs in PvE is my opinion
.It's a great MG, though, and you have the option between more bullets and stability. Great gun.
Rockets > MGs in PvE is my opinion
It's a great MG, though, and you have the option between more bullets and stability. Great gun.
My other heavys are shit
PrivateWHudson
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I may be inclined to agree with the first part, but I can't say that it's MANY more since the patch. At most, a couple. Hopefully they will get sorted out soon. I'm just trying to gt the point across that we should yell "bug" every time. We won't get better if we chalk everything up as a bug.
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Well that's a design decision, not a bug. That would be a separate discussion.
Dr Nope- AE without the stability, and shards. My rewards for the week, on top of a few more shards and a scooter for staying up til 5am to work on HM. Bungle can blow this game and their RNG-based loot system out of their ass.
Yup. As much as I'm worried the game might eventually turn out fantastic, right now it's not worth keeping. I'll just keep my save data and we'll see the state of affairs this time next year. Would rather put the cash towards GTA V, a game I know is almost bug free and fun to play with friends.
Good luck getting enjoyment from this stone guys, you're more patient that I am.
EDIT: Shit, even the game stores know. £15 is the best you can get.
Yup. As much as I'm worried the game might eventually turn out fantastic, right now it's not worth keeping. I'll just keep my save data and we'll see the state of affairs this time next year. Would rather put the cash towards GTA V, a game I know is almost bug free and fun to play with friends.
Good luck getting enjoyment from this stone guys, you're more patient that I am.
EDIT: Shit, even the game stores know. £15 is the best you can get.
Thunderlord is an awesome MG. Does good damage, extremely stable, good range. It's devastating in PvP.
Jolder's Hammer and, depending on luck with perks / upgrades, MGs like Deviant Gravity (not the store version) can also be good. Jolder's looks very good. Thunderlord just seems to hit hardest / stable of them.
Another thing, the negative ammo "feature"? My Gjallahorn isn't leveled up, yet, so I was using Thunderlord on hard Atheon last night with +ammo. If we died, I'd only lose .... one bullet.
Was nice. Also, it shredded supplicants pretty easily and does good damage on Atheon from under the relic shield. I've been lazy about it since prior I had only used it for PvP, but it was 1100+ per bullet on Atheon and it's only a 267 weapon currently. 60 bullets and it fires quicker as you hold down the trigger....
Yeah, definitely leveling it to 300 with Gjallahorn. That way if I'm in a crew with all G-horns we can annihilate and if not, can use the T-lord.
hillsighed
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Wait, so what strike is the Nightfall this week? Please don't say the Moon.
Union Carbine
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I'm not sure they ever explain the elemental damages and shields directly in game. I can easily see players not picking it up and it's not super important until you get to the end-game.
PrivateWHudson
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Pretty sure it is. Anytime someone would pop in through the portal to help and they shot the wrong oracle everything would go to shit. This "bug" is more apparent on hard since the oracles have a better chance of piling up and it's hard to keep the order.
The tank and the sponge on mars
GraveRobberX
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I'll solo it for you, give me 20 minutes of y'o time and some sexy lovin' talk to keep me entertained
hillsighed
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God damnit...
I have a regular fireteam that runs the dailies and weeklies together and I have a little bit of trepidation about this week's Nightfall. I wonder how well it works to have three people hiding behind the crates? I'm also game to try and get up on top of the light fixture (or tell my hunter buddy to do it, he's a platforming fiend) but I feel for whoever has to stay on the floor and deal with all of those psions and phalanxes.
Bungie is constantly tweaking the game, and being extremely reactive to what the player base is doing and how the game is progressing. This is why I think the changes are deliberate.
And the changes wouldn't be out of malevolence, but perhaps a poor way to try to make the game harder and slow down progression.
It could also be RNG.
What is your loadout on a solo run?
We only have so many strikes, and also the fact that we have one left out because the xbox doesn't have it yet.
I don't know, Hudson. I swear I've seen people kill them out of order. I wouldn't stand by the thought with a gun to my head, but I'd love for someone to intentionally try it and verify.
It just doesn't seem right. Reason why is I usually try and leapfrog with the relic and use the super on the oracles my team hasn't gotten to, yet, since 5k+ damage helps them along....and I've seen damage numbers every time except once.
Could they have killed the last one just before my blast hit? Sure, definitely, but it doesn't seem intuitive.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Cheese method to kill Phalanx in one shot
Have Ice Breaker maxed
Now don't move too forward that they start moving
The Phalanx "breathe" motion makes their shield show their head for like a split second
I was popping off headshots on Phalanxes left and right by doing so
Give yourself a huge gap that a shot you shoot, doesn't make them retreat/flank
Hell I killed the 3 Colossus-es from like the max range possible, they just ate 3 IB headshots and died
Totally. When there's a solar burn on this one it's gonna be crazy, everything will hit like a truck but so will We (the GjallarForce)
I can't not use my vault, scary as that concept is, I just have to go about my business.
Best machine gun in the game; it is God during Arc Burns. Not worth the Exotic slot other than that, typically.
Why don't you believe that? I've seen basically no evidence to suggest it's anything but completely random, of course with the Weekly Nightfall and Heroic being set to always go to the same strike.
yeah. grumble on this one, though it's sort of a good opportunity for me to try my hand at soloing it.
...no, there just doesn't happen to be one this week, and no they don't. Content with Burns is my favorite because you have to plan your loadout as well as know which of your enemies will benefit from it. Depending on the particular burn and strike in question it can get either easier or harder and its difficulty to the individual trying it really all depends on what weaponry you have. there's nothing at all wrong with the Nightfall difficulty, or even the HP values of bosses where there's a burn active. It's basic content without burns that's not tuned well re: all the bullet sponge complaints
I did mine with legendary scout rifle, legendary void fusion, fire grenades, patience and time. Had a regular rare fire machine gun.
Found verdict. I've found that in MP if I can't get a one shot with the Comedian I'm more likely to die before I can get the next shot off. If I'm rolling with a shotty, it's going to be either Found Verdict or Invective. I really only used the Comedian for the Thorn bounty to be honest, and didn't care too much for it.
Bungie is constantly tweaking the game, and being extremely reactive to what the player base is doing and how the game is progressing. This is why I think the changes are deliberate.
And the changes wouldn't be out of malevolence, but perhaps a poor way to try to make the game harder and slow down progression.
It could also be RNG.
.....fair enough
. Not like we have evidence either way, so yeah....I can't say it's not intentional, either. Still think it's RNG, but yep....possible.Don't have to shoot them in order on hard, last night I was relic holder in a group, they were going way to slow and I just supered one that appeared later while they were still shooting one before.
Nah, it's all RNG.
Do you really think people who manage to somehow forget they had an Iron Banner event automatically planned for each month would bother having to come up with weeklies / nightfall / xur each week by hand?
Those things are automated so they don't take someone's time each week.
And this is actually the clever way to design such events. So that they can concentrate on other matters.
GalacticToast
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Knocked out the Nightfall and Weekly pretty painlessly. A little cheese was had. Glad it's done and over with.
GraveRobberX
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Primary: Vision of Confluence/Atheon's Epilogue (for the Psions), if you don't have those, best Scout Rifle on ya (267-300 Attack) if you have the AF1.XRYL it's still good due to firefly perk, Auto Rifles lose a lot of their bullets to those fucking shielded assholes Phalanx
Special: Ice Breaker/Praedyth's Revenge (Psions so I can pick those fucks off from a mile away)
Best is the IB <-> Prae swap for unlimited ammo
Heavy: I have Unfriendly Giant (Solar) Rocket Launcher or Deviant Gravity A (Solar) Light Machine Gun, you can do Godhorn here and swap your special to Prae
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