It's a... scout rifle. It doesn't do a particularly amazing job at being a scout rifle, but its a good one. The biggest problem I have with MIDA is justifying it's place in my only weapon exotic slot. It's good for farming runs because of agility, but I don't find myself using it in the raid/strikes or anything. That's not to say its not good there, I just have exotic secondaries I prefer.
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It's a... scout rifle. It doesn't do a particularly amazing job at being a scout rifle, but its a good one. The biggest problem I have with MIDA is justifying it's place in my only weapon exotic slot. It's good for farming runs because of agility, but I don't find myself using it in the raid/strikes or anything. That's not to say its not good there, I just have exotic secondaries I prefer.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Mida is the best exotic SR in the game. VoC is the best overall SC.
Byron Bluth
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Re: asking before joining a fireteam, I feel that it would just be expected etiquette. I've never popped into someone else's fireteam unannounced nor would I ever.
With that said, I always keep my fireteam open even when I'm trying to "Destiny Souls" solo some content. I have people on my friends list (Gaffers and otherwise) pop in unannounced all the time. If they're not very skilled or underleveled for the activity, I don't mind carrying them through. I totally get why it's viewed as an annoyance and it absolutely should be, but I just enjoy playing the game so I'm pretty chill about it.
If anyone happens to be lurking this thread and has a habit of popping in unannounced feel free to add me. You may be asked to leave if I'm waiting on someone, but otherwise I'm typically down for whatever.
PS4 PSN: EinFurDieDamen
Well said, people need to be friendly and civil. Don't just boot them right away, tell them whats up. In the end, the options are there in the game and people should and will use them.
The social features are awful enough, we don't need to be an added barrier for the community.
AmateurHour212
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I was never not over it. I just find it a bit laughable/immature. Guess I'll boot people whenever I please and not really worry about it. It's not difficult, right?
Sending and reading messages on PSN is so slow and clunky that it's impractical to message people before joining a Fireteam. If you're patrolling Mars and I need some Relic, I think it'd be cool to just join you and ask right away "Hey man mind if I tag along?". If you want to run solo you can just say "hey sorry I'm actually waiting for 2 people" or whatever and it's all cool.
I've had bad experiences with people here who get really rude and dump me immediately with apparent offense at my having joined their Fireteam without notice. Result? I run solo exclusively unless I get a partner through the message board previously. I'll post here and wait until I find someone who answers. I guess it's OK but I won't lie: it kinda bums me out that people aren't a little nicer about this.
If I'm doing something and you randomly join my team I'd never feel it's OK to be rude to you. If I don't want to play with you for any reason and had forgotten to set team to Private or Invite Only, I can be nice about it and just say it decently, no hard feelings.
I've had bad experiences with people here who get really rude and dump me immediately with apparent offense at my having joined their Fireteam without notice. Result? I run solo exclusively unless I get a partner through the message board previously. I'll post here and wait until I find someone who answers. I guess it's OK but I won't lie: it kinda bums me out that people aren't a little nicer about this.
If I'm doing something and you randomly join my team I'd never feel it's OK to be rude to you. If I don't want to play with you for any reason and had forgotten to set team to Private or Invite Only, I can be nice about it and just say it decently, no hard feelings.
Sent you another one. Add me as FR, might help: Wretched_Walrus
Please tell me who it was. My PM is ready
Dont wrry, I probably do hard raid with u, nobody wants to do it from beginning, im joining others on oracles and templar, might not even do gatekeeper it seems.
Hell yeah. I mean if I see you or Roth or someone doing a strike/nightfall or otherwise I'll drop in to help. But if you're in a raid I know you're trying a flawless run, so if I just dropped in without asking that's unfair and rude, especially since it's likely you're waiting for someone already.
"can I join you" takes seconds. Voice chat can be a pain, but you know it never takes me more than a few minutes to get it fixed if it stops working. It's not so much a problem for me, considering I plan activities here and with friends before doing them so the fireteams are always full- but if someone drops and a random joins, you can be sure you're getting booted.
I don't hate when people join- if you're a pain, you get booted, if you die a lot I'm not gonna keep reviving you- I just find it rude for people you hardly know to jump in without asking. Even my RL PSN buddy invites me to a chat so we can talk about what we need to do.
Same as Bizazedo. It's open so actual RL and good friends can join me whenever they want. I don't mind a good buddy sitting at my table without asking, at least not most of the time. It's open for people I know, not the people I don't or have played with maybe once.
I wouldn't join without asking, so that's the behaviour I expect. If it's too much trouble for someone to ask, it's too much trouble for me not to boot them for a friend or someone that did.
Random joining a raid is just a huge nono. I've had strangers do that and I hate it. Usually if my fireteam has a spot open, it's because someone's been disconnected or we're waiting for a guy, though.
Slight tangent- who really wants to sit in on my fireteam if all I'm doing is collecting mats? Nothing to see here folks.
I'm unfriending you
Vasilisk 2038
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PS4 here, we need one to the Vault of Glass, Hard, just opened. At least 29 and decent weapons please, we speak English and Spanish. Add me PSN Vasilisk.
Fixed1979
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Dude play the game however you want, I don't really care. But your comment about MTV generation etc was silly, and honestly if that's what you're breaking your argument down into then I feel you're missing the point.
Well, they're solving different problems
But I guess I will set my fireteam status every time, I see the other argument.The one thing I'll hate about this is
yes arg. when I'm playing Crucible I'd want to have it open. lots of swapping in my future
I thought I was the only one that liked it, I never bring it up cause it's usually "lol hope you like getting shot out of the sky"
Well that's the long and short of it yeah. to clarify I haven't ever kicked someone out of a fireteam that joined me regardless of how they did so (unless it was for a reserved slot, and I will send a message to apologize for having to do so)
Byron Bluth
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So very much this. PSN messaging is awful. Like I've said, be civil. Bungie needs to enhance their social features (well, add entirely because there barely are any) so messages can be sent in game, or status' or whatever to help this as well.
AmateurHour212
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Cømet;137471779 said:
Oh good, someone here gets it.
:| Now I really feel trying Flawless will be a nerve-wrecking experience. Such pressure haha
Squall ASF
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There is no excuse for not setting it to invite only if random drop-ins are a big deal to you. None. It's lame and needs to be addressed that you can't save your preference right now but jesus do you have to be extremely lazy to not make this very quick change before setting out on whatever activity you're going to begin. There are multiple privacy settings for a reason people, use them! It only makes sense that if you have it set to "Friends Only" you're saying it's ok for anyone on your FL to jump in. The permissions set the edict for us and you don't have to deal with awkward situations.
Going from the beginning is cake for me now. People keep wanting to cheese stuff and Im like its easier to just do it. Weak dicks.
Qwell
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+1
I randomly join people all the time, not trying to be carried just trying to accomplish stuff and have some fun. I ask when I join just to make sure its cool and don't mind leaving if they were waiting. The flawless run ... yah that sucks... but again you know now that you should set to invite only if you are trying that, I can't think of another scenario where it would totally screw up something if someone accidentally randomly joined. You are still the fireteam lead so even if the person is a jerk, you can just boot them out.
Also totally agree about the PSN message speed, you are lucky if the person can even see the message 5 minutes after you send it, so you are stuck waiting. Or you take 20 seconds, join the fireteam, ask if it was cool and leave if you need to.
Kor of Memory
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Any groups forming for hard mode raid on ps4?
What about person like me who usually don't have any PS4 audio enabled when doing solo stuff as I don't expect need for communications and put something to my 2nd monitor?
I guess I would be that "rude person" from which you would need to take a hint from
I boot you if I don't want you there, if no coms on
Also option to ask before joining is there so there really isn't good excuse to crash in unannounced. You just assume that everyone with "open" fireteam is ok with you just joining in.
My bad excuse for letting people crash in is that I rarely remember adjust that toggle each time I start the game or swap characters. Funny how game saves every other setting user puts in, but not this one.
lol i was just poking fun at lik, and yeah there can be a lot of pressure, just gotta chillax hard and remember its just a game and these people that you make angry cant titan punch you through the tv
Johan Liebert
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Yeah I could use regular Crucible friends too. Gets boring playing with randoms.
Alright, lol
I'm pretty locked down with the platforms now. Not even an issue anymore. I just fly past them.
That was actually my first Flawless run so yea, I fucked it up. Other than a lag that caused my death recently there, I've had no problems.
The worst is worrying about everybody else dying there for whatever reason.
This times
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It takes 5 minutes to send a message on PSN, and 20 seconds to say "Need a hand?"
MADGAME
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Which is more of a hassle - giving a player the boot every time one joins your fireteam unannounced or changing the setting once per session?
The laziness is laughable, you have tools at your disposal to get the desired result. If you would rather try to drive community behavior instead of 3 button presses to get what you want, more power to you.
The laziness is laughable, you have tools at your disposal to get the desired result. If you would rather try to drive community behavior instead of 3 button presses to get what you want, more power to you.
lol i was just poking fun at lik, and yeah there can be a lot of pressure, just gotta chillax hard and remember its just a game and these people that you make angry cant titan punch you through the tv
Every time I run Normal VoG now I try to make it all the way without dying so I'm ready for a flawless group when the time for that comes. I've made it all the way to Gatekeepers without dying (other than Gorgon maze wipes where I wasn't at fault) but haven't nailed Gatekeeper down yet. I've had better luck clearing Atheon without dying (again, discounting team wipes when someone else messes up). Gotta keep practicing I guess
I woke up a little earlier than usual since I'm still getting used to the daylight savings time change. I figured I should try to solo the Nightfall since I had the free time. I was awarded with The Last Word, and a blue engram that I picked up turned into the Epitaph legendary sniper w/ Void. Since I had some time to spare, I ran the Daily too. I was awarded a legendary helm engram along with shards. It turned into 2 ascendant energies, but still. I felt like I won the lottery this morning. I was contemplating whether or not I should call in sick to work just to see how far I could ride the good luck.
Every time I run Normal VoG now I try to make it all the way without dying so I'm ready for a flawless group when the time for that comes. I've made it all the way to Gatekeepers without dying (other than Gorgon maze wipes where I wasn't at fault) but haven't nailed Gatekeeper down yet. I've had better luck clearing Atheon without dying (again, discounting team wipes when someone else messes up). Gotta keep practicing I guess
Yea, just practice and you'll get better. The glitches make it harder but adapting to that shit is part of the challenge until Bungie fixes this shit.
HawksWinStanley
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Gotcha. Makes sense but considering how many low hanging ceilings there are in almost every map I think it would just frustrate me.
Plus I don't know if it's worth the trade off traversal-wise. I'm one of those assholes that blinks over people's heads and drops down for the two piece melee shotgun/handcannon combo so the super slow glide would eff with my play style.
I can see both sides kind of. I never join someone's session unless i know them in real life or if it was arranged in here or destiny lfg. As far as people joining up with me,I really don't mind. I do have a couple of Co workers that play and one of them I game with most of the time, the other is kind of annoying so I try to act like I didn't see him just join my fire team. I'll log off quickly, log back on and set my team to invite only lol.
I did run into someone a week or so ago thru destiny lfg that I cheesed atheon with. Sent friend request and a week later the dude randomly joined me while I was doing a solo Nightfall. He saw that I was at the beginning and bounced without saying anything. That just made me think dude was just trying to hop on at the end for a quick reward, which is fine if i post in here that I'm at the boss and offer for some of you guys to join in for the reward, but not as cool for some random I met on destinylfg.
I guess bottom line is if someone joins and contributes, it's all cool with me.
I used to think Bladedancers were a little OP. Then I made one and discovered all the limitations. Went back to my Titan and now I just plain murder those guys. When I see someone pop bladedancer super I switch to the shotty and grenade'em. Usually keep a super around for'em for extra security.
It's gunslingers that scare me. I run far when I see golden gun. Was so pissed at a random other day. I was dead already and saw a hunter go Golden. Teammate decides to be dumb and rez me so we can both die to golden gun.
/begin rant -> This game really fucking needs the ability for randoms to talk to each other in Crucible. It's so stupid. Even Halo had this. Bungie has gotten so awful since working on Halo. Been playing CoD: AW lately to take a break and cooldown. /end rant/whine/tears
Sword Of Doom
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I think it's common courtesy to ask before joining. Just because there is an opening it doesn't mean you can just join. Maybe the group is waiting for someone or maybe someone got booted which happens quite often.
I've played around with it just a little bit and I think it's underrated. Cool to be able to swap out Knucklehead and retain that functionality. That said, it could use a buff to justify spending your exotic slot on it.
You can send a voice message on PSN... I do so, and receive them, all the time. It's quick and easy :X I don't think it should be considered impractical by a long shot to do this, considering how many times I've been on the sending or receiving end and done so successfully.
If you just join (my fireteam ingame) without warning and ask "Mind if I tag along?" out loud and I'm on Vita or playing in my bedroom without my headset or watching TV or something, it's going to seem like I'm ignoring you and that sucks. Generally speaking, I'll shoot them a PSN message at this point to let them know what's up and apologize that I'm not doing something more exciting or able to talk at the moment. But I get that I should just switch to invite only any time there's a risk of this and then switch back when I'm ready for anything, have my headset on, and would be happy to have people join blindly. If the status were persistent it would be much easier to manage.
yeah... I always try to err on the side of common courtesy, for sure.
Dhruv_hanom
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I'm extra quite during the flawless runs :-D
Also I need to send out Friend Requests :-\
Yeah I have my parties set to Invite only for this reason. I had to boot a guy from friends list because he'd join me and just play horrible. He had no mic. He screwed up in a Heroic weekly and normal raid.
If you get booted from a fireteam, there's no reason to take it personally. Everyone has their reasons. I drop in randomly on people, and sometimes I message or join their party first to ask. It depends on my mood and the task at hand. If I get booted, I don't sulk or fret. I've booted people from my fireteam when I've been trying to solo Atheon, or when a friend and I are trying to keep our fireteam size down. If they can't hear me before I issue the kick, that's their own fault. It's never personal, as I don't personally know most of the people on my friend list.
If you're finding this is an inconvenience for you, maybe you should add more friends to your list (the GAF friends list threads are excellent for this) in order to increase your hit rate. Most of the time someone drops in randomly on me, and I don't know them, I can guess they're from GAF. Most of the time I welcome it. Nothing better than getting an extra, helpful gun when shorthanded on a mission. PEACE.
If you're finding this is an inconvenience for you, maybe you should add more friends to your list (the GAF friends list threads are excellent for this) in order to increase your hit rate. Most of the time someone drops in randomly on me, and I don't know them, I can guess they're from GAF. Most of the time I welcome it. Nothing better than getting an extra, helpful gun when shorthanded on a mission. PEACE.
What about person like me who usually don't have any PS4 audio enabled when doing solo stuff as I don't expect need for communications and put something to my 2nd monitor?
I guess I would be that "rude person" from which you would need to take a hint from
I boot you if I don't want you there, if no coms on
Also option to ask before joining is there so there really isn't good excuse to crash in unannounced. You just assume that everyone with "open" fireteam is ok with you just joining in.
Tovarisc hey, please understand I wasn't trying to say you or anyone was rude, if you or anyone else has a legit reason for not wanting someone on your fireteam - it's a free country. But whether it was you or the number of folks saying "I cleared out my friends list" type statements just sound really edgy to me. Basically - why? Here's this epic gathering of freaking cool people that I'm psyched to game with - and we're talking about dropping friends like clearing a browser cache? gulp
I'm not someone that would be offended by Hawkian, or you, or likely anyone else saying "Hey man, I'm waiting for someone - catch you next time" even if you were having a bad day or whatever else. I get it.
I'll gladly comply with requests for permission rather than forgiveness, but would think with classy people as such as inhabit this forum the golden rule would be the norm. shrug
If we ever get the chance to play together, maybe you'll put your headphones on. I promise I'll be nice. hehe Thanks for your reply.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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I tried the sparrow surfing from that video posted a few hours ago. It's really funny, especially when randoms near you stare at you and wonder what the fuck is going on
Got 5-6 messages from randoms asking me how I was glitching the game.
Also, one random sent me a message saying I misspelled ruthless in my psn id (ruthlesbarbarian).
Got 5-6 messages from randoms asking me how I was glitching the game.
Also, one random sent me a message saying I misspelled ruthless in my psn id (ruthlesbarbarian).
That argument cuts both ways. If e.g. I'm "lazy" for not each time remembering switching toggle then you would be "lazy" for not sending short message before joining my fireteam. Both actions are low effort, but can result in better experience for all parties involved.
Community doesn't behave as "party joiners" as a whole, some people within said community does. Just like some people [e.g. me] at times don't want "party joiners" in their fireteams even if option to join is there.
So basically if you would laugh at me for being "lazy" and not remembering toggle then I would laugh at you for being "lazy" and not typing up 3 words :S
If we ever get the chance to play together, maybe you'll put your headphones on. I promise I'll be nice. hehe Thanks for your reply.
If I'm organising group stuff [nightfall, raid, pvp...] or just expecting friend
Thats all.
I tried the sparrow surfing from that video posted a few hours ago. It's really funny, especially when randoms near you stare at you and wonder what the fuck is going on
Got 5-6 messages from randoms asking me how I was glitching the game.
Also, one random sent me a message saying I misspelled ruthless in my psn id (ruthlesbarbarian).
Yea, major typo dude
Ruthless_Barbarian
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