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Destiny |OT9| Suros Business
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Hawkmoon is not on PS3 too?
lol
400+ strikes and still no Hawkmoon
We are brothers...
Robdraggoo
Member
Lol, I actually did that earlier. Force of hbatabat I guess.
Looking for a couple of gaffers willing to take my alt 26 warlock through weekly heroic. Rely need the rep. Anyone down
Yup that happened to me too.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Just reached 30 on my main! So pumped. Should be able to give hard raid a shot. Also got my alt Titan to 27 this weekend, so 3 nightfall and raid ready characters.
Qwell
Member
Well, decided to just spend the shards on non raid gear for my hunter since he has yet to get a single piece of raid armor after more clears then my other 2 characters that are both lvl 30... so 29 Hunter with maxed AE, IB, CM, PR among a bunch of other stuff looking for HM at GK / Atheon, or a full clear.
PS4 = Qwell
PS4 = Qwell
Qwell Ive got an Atheon hard checkpoint and need more players. You down? I wanna do it in about an hour. Watching F1 race right now.
sagat2036
Member
Quick video i made with a lot of minotaur gaining HP when near death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGb_MH-xFWo
I think the stairs bug him and cause he to gain HP??!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGb_MH-xFWo
I think the stairs bug him and cause he to gain HP??!!
HawksWinStanley
Member
You should get way more crucible marks if you win. Only getting one extra over the losers is lame. Should be at least 5.
grimlock33
Member
I'd be willing to jump in with my level 30 warlock. Haven't done it on HM though.
Qwell
Member
Yah if I'm not in the middle of one, just getting Crucible rep until I can find an HM to join.
Yup I hate when that happens. It is probably a bug when the Minotaur regains health... But could it also be lag? We usually just try to have the other too fire rockets and throw grenades in the middle before anyone starts shooting oracles.
I don't mind spending shards... It's doing all the farming needed to level up my equipment that I really hate.
Edit sry for the double post.
BMO = GOAT
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Does anyone have an alt they would like to raise up? My titan needs to lvl up so it wouldn't hurt to help each other out.
Qwell
Member
Yah I just took my relic iron down to 1 ... as in 1 single relic iron left <sad panda>
Still looking? PSN same as GAF. Looking to do Normal with Titan or Hard with Hunter.
It's lag. We sometimes play with a guy that we know lags hard and it always happens when he is with us.
Id cry. I love my final boss.
MrChowderClams
Member
0.92 Mbps:
edit: ah I think you mean the upload bandwidth on my PS4's connection. I think it's around 10Mb/s
BMO = GOAT
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I have two, they are just stored in my vault. Mainly use IB and Patience & Time, so i have little use for them.
Oh and next time give the Titan the relic. His super is useless in the portal.
What the..
Uh, just making sure: That's the speed of the network the PS4 is connected to, right? Not the connection at your family's house.
hoo boy.
I know I'm more dialed in to this stuff than the vast majority of people who post in this thread- why would you (not just Nathan/Boguester, I mean, anyone) care, anyway? If the thread has value to you that's more important than boring metrics about it.
But I pay quite a lot of attention to what's going on here. And first things first... the rates of posting in these threads is not consistent throughout their lifespans- it never has been. The biggest spike in activity comes on Tuesdays; after reset, everyone looks for groups for all of the weekly content, discusses what the Weekly Strike, modifiers, and relevant cheese are, and post strategies and tips as well as little comments about how effective their gun setup will be for X in particular (due to a burn/the strike in question/Ice Breaker being Ice Breaker, etc.). The next biggest spike comes on Friday mornings (in my timezone) with Xur's visits. You get people asking where he is/if he's there, people posting and/or, ahem, stating their feelings about what he has in stock, people asking for advice regarding the best value for their coins, people posting their engram gambling results, and of course the weekly debate about whether or not Xur is a good idea/design element for the game in general. Speaking of which I forgot to buy Sunbreakers. >_< Next biggest spikes have come any time there has been a hotfix/patch, news or information (or non-information) about a patch, or external comments that pertain to a coming patch. Next biggest, for better or worse, have come any time Bungie says or does something perceived to be stupid by the community. Next biggest were on Monday nights where people scrambled to try and get checkpoints/HM cheese before the reset (though I imagine this has been cut down because the cheese is harder now, from the sound of things). Next biggest, the Weekly updates.
If you look at what the thread is doing at any given point in the week you're not getting totally useful information because it's a variable rate. Considering this thread to have been made roughly 14 full days ago, and having 19,618 posts as of my last check, that's an average posting rate of 58.3 posts per hour. Sure, that's less than one post per minute, and it's a bit removed from the multiple posts every minute of the first few OTs. But it's still nuts. Nutso. Nutsola.
Yes, of course, the overall speed of the OTs is slowing down over time, but that's an unavoidable reality for any game; so with that in mind you really need to compare it to other games. Let's do that. Destiny, for whatever reasons you choose to believe... is a pretty big deal on GAF.
This is largest gaming subcommunity I've ever been a part of, by far. It is overwhelming. I consider myself a "low-stress" gamer, and with so many opinions flying around in here, tempers can flare sometimes- even and especially when the game's Community Manager decides to see if it would be valuable to interact with us directly. There are a LOT of people playing this game and talking about it. I try to stay on top of it and be as useful to the community as possible, but I've still missed entire pages of discussion myself.
It seems like we might need a little perspective check. I'm very involved in the GW2 subcommunity here, and consider it (and our guild) active and healthy. That game released over 2 years ago and is on its OT4, creeping toward OT5.
In this thread, Destiny's ninth, 907 unique individual posters have posted at least once. Nine hundred and seven. That's bonkers. That's lunacy. Halo's twentieth and current OT, the only one to my knowledge that eclipses Destiny's total count, features 413 unique posters. This thread also has more views, at 588,184 to 548,915. 347 posters in here have posted 10 times or more, and the top 100 posters all have at least 48 posts.
Destiny was released 61 days, or 2 months ago, as of today.
Here are some other examples of games you may have heard of and their OTs on GAF:
Dota 2 |OT7| What the fuck have they done (released in July 2013)
League of Legends |OT8| Goodbye, Promos (released in Oct. 2009)
World of Warcraft |OT6| This wolf still has teeth (released Nov. 2004)
Pokémon XY |OT4| Don't Bank On It (released Oct. 2013)
Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion (released Oct. 2007)
Dark Souls |OT5| Definitely better than the sequel (released Oct. 2011)
Minecraft |OT3| Dig Your Way to Fortune! Build Your Way to Glory! (released... well, whatever)
No Call of Duty OT on GAF has ever advanced past the first, although MW2 did have the equivalent of an OT2 as it was for whatever reason allowed to go to 342 pages.
Feel free to choose your preferred explanation as to why these numbers "shouldn't count":
Hopefully you already get what I'm driving at, but if not: in terms of what the industry cares about, Destiny isn't a "failure" or "struggling" or a "mild success." It is a phenomenon on GAF, and as we cruise leisurely into OT10, the only thing keeping it from being the absolute #1 most active, fastest-moving and populous subcommunity here is the flagship franchise developed by the same studio. Seriously. I checked:
It's your prerogative to decide why Destiny has been successful and popular here. You don't have to believe my interpretation ("for all its problems, this game is REALLY FUCKING GOOD"), and I hope everyone does form their own conclusions about it. But more important than worrying about how fast the thread is moving or whether or not Destiny will have 6 players left by January is this: decide what you want your role to be in whatever eventual community results.
Maybe OT10 will be the absolute last Destiny thread on GAF, ever. It's possible. That should have no effect on whether or not it's somewhere you want to be. Are you having fun playing, and particularly playing with GAF comrades? Then stick around. I guarantee you others will do the same. If not? God, please don't do another daily or pick up another Spirit Bloom. Return the game (if you weren't unfortunate enough to buy it digitally :<). Spend your time doing things you enjoy.
Destiny isn't shaping up to be a ghost town. It's shaping up to be the second-biggest city in all NeoGAF country. But even if it does turn into a ghost town, I'll be there to put on a sheriff badge. Because while our problems with the game do matter, and much criticism is incredibly justified, the fact that we're talking about it at all is a win, full-stop.
Yes, there are annoying fucking glitches that need to be fixed.
Yes, it's easy to lapse into tedious repetition if you want to max out your characters.
Yes, changes to balance and itemization could improve the game.
Yes, the game is starving for new content.
None of that comes close to "we don't really care what's wrong with it; we're done talking about it."
TL;DR: if Bungie pops its head onto the gaming community forum and sees this:
They aren't thinking "I can't believe how bad we fucked this up, we're losing players left and right, we have to make it up to them somehow" no matter how much you might want that to be the case.
They're thinking "holy fuck, does anyone know how to liquefy cash because I want to bathe in it."
I hope and believe the game will improve dramatically from here on out. I really do. But the sooner you adjust your perspective to what's really going on here and decide what that means to you, the more fun you'll have.
So... you guys talked me into the new OT title. It's gonna be Destiny |OT10| Working As Intended. But I might mean it just a shade differently than you do.
write down the exact time and date you made that call.
Ok, so...
I know I'm more dialed in to this stuff than the vast majority of people who post in this thread- why would you (not just Nathan/Boguester, I mean, anyone) care, anyway? If the thread has value to you that's more important than boring metrics about it.
But I pay quite a lot of attention to what's going on here. And first things first... the rates of posting in these threads is not consistent throughout their lifespans- it never has been. The biggest spike in activity comes on Tuesdays; after reset, everyone looks for groups for all of the weekly content, discusses what the Weekly Strike, modifiers, and relevant cheese are, and post strategies and tips as well as little comments about how effective their gun setup will be for X in particular (due to a burn/the strike in question/Ice Breaker being Ice Breaker, etc.). The next biggest spike comes on Friday mornings (in my timezone) with Xur's visits. You get people asking where he is/if he's there, people posting and/or, ahem, stating their feelings about what he has in stock, people asking for advice regarding the best value for their coins, people posting their engram gambling results, and of course the weekly debate about whether or not Xur is a good idea/design element for the game in general. Speaking of which I forgot to buy Sunbreakers. >_< Next biggest spikes have come any time there has been a hotfix/patch, news or information (or non-information) about a patch, or external comments that pertain to a coming patch. Next biggest, for better or worse, have come any time Bungie says or does something perceived to be stupid by the community. Next biggest were on Monday nights where people scrambled to try and get checkpoints/HM cheese before the reset (though I imagine this has been cut down because the cheese is harder now, from the sound of things). Next biggest, the Weekly updates.
If you look at what the thread is doing at any given point in the week you're not getting totally useful information because it's a variable rate. Considering this thread to have been made roughly 14 full days ago, and having 19,618 posts as of my last check, that's an average posting rate of 58.3 posts per hour. Sure, that's less than one post per minute, and it's a bit removed from the multiple posts every minute of the first few OTs. But it's still nuts. Nutso. Nutsola.
Yes, of course, the overall speed of the OTs is slowing down over time, but that's an unavoidable reality for any game; so with that in mind you really need to compare it to other games. Let's do that. Destiny, for whatever reasons you choose to believe... is a pretty big deal on GAF.
I'll tell you something, activity will pick up with the DLC, but man it could use a little dwindle.
This is largest gaming subcommunity I've ever been a part of, by far. It is overwhelming. I consider myself a "low-stress" gamer, and with so many opinions flying around in here, tempers can flare sometimes- even and especially when the game's Community Manager decides to see if it would be valuable to interact with us directly. There are a LOT of people playing this game and talking about it. I try to stay on top of it and be as useful to the community as possible, but I've still missed entire pages of discussion myself.
It seems like we might need a little perspective check. I'm very involved in the GW2 subcommunity here, and consider it (and our guild) active and healthy. That game released over 2 years ago and is on its OT4, creeping toward OT5.
In this thread, Destiny's ninth, 907 unique individual posters have posted at least once. Nine hundred and seven. That's bonkers. That's lunacy. Halo's twentieth and current OT, the only one to my knowledge that eclipses Destiny's total count, features 413 unique posters. This thread also has more views, at 588,184 to 548,915. 347 posters in here have posted 10 times or more, and the top 100 posters all have at least 48 posts.
Destiny was released 61 days, or 2 months ago, as of today.
Here are some other examples of games you may have heard of and their OTs on GAF:
Dota 2 |OT7| What the fuck have they done (released in July 2013)
League of Legends |OT8| Goodbye, Promos (released in Oct. 2009)
World of Warcraft |OT6| This wolf still has teeth (released Nov. 2004)
Pokémon XY |OT4| Don't Bank On It (released Oct. 2013)
Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion (released Oct. 2007)
Dark Souls |OT5| Definitely better than the sequel (released Oct. 2011)
Minecraft |OT3| Dig Your Way to Fortune! Build Your Way to Glory! (released... well, whatever)
No Call of Duty OT on GAF has ever advanced past the first, although MW2 did have the equivalent of an OT2 as it was for whatever reason allowed to go to 342 pages.
Feel free to choose your preferred explanation as to why these numbers "shouldn't count":
a. it wouldn't be as active if there weren't so many problems to complain about
b. every post is just looking for groups/getting raid checkpoints and it wouldn't be active at all if there was matchmaking
c. the game is too casual, getting exotics is too easy and the Crucible is just cheap no-skill multikills and it keeps the game full of newbs
d. the game is too hardcore, only people who love the ridiculous grind are here and they post a ton and skew the numbers
Probably missed some.b. every post is just looking for groups/getting raid checkpoints and it wouldn't be active at all if there was matchmaking
c. the game is too casual, getting exotics is too easy and the Crucible is just cheap no-skill multikills and it keeps the game full of newbs
d. the game is too hardcore, only people who love the ridiculous grind are here and they post a ton and skew the numbers
Hopefully you already get what I'm driving at, but if not: in terms of what the industry cares about, Destiny isn't a "failure" or "struggling" or a "mild success." It is a phenomenon on GAF, and as we cruise leisurely into OT10, the only thing keeping it from being the absolute #1 most active, fastest-moving and populous subcommunity here is the flagship franchise developed by the same studio. Seriously. I checked:
It's your prerogative to decide why Destiny has been successful and popular here. You don't have to believe my interpretation ("for all its problems, this game is REALLY FUCKING GOOD"), and I hope everyone does form their own conclusions about it. But more important than worrying about how fast the thread is moving or whether or not Destiny will have 6 players left by January is this: decide what you want your role to be in whatever eventual community results.
Maybe OT10 will be the absolute last Destiny thread on GAF, ever. It's possible. That should have no effect on whether or not it's somewhere you want to be. Are you having fun playing, and particularly playing with GAF comrades? Then stick around. I guarantee you others will do the same. If not? God, please don't do another daily or pick up another Spirit Bloom. Return the game (if you weren't unfortunate enough to buy it digitally :<). Spend your time doing things you enjoy.
Destiny isn't shaping up to be a ghost town. It's shaping up to be the second-biggest city in all NeoGAF country. But even if it does turn into a ghost town, I'll be there to put on a sheriff badge. Because while our problems with the game do matter, and much criticism is incredibly justified, the fact that we're talking about it at all is a win, full-stop.
Yes, there are annoying fucking glitches that need to be fixed.
Yes, it's easy to lapse into tedious repetition if you want to max out your characters.
Yes, changes to balance and itemization could improve the game.
Yes, the game is starving for new content.
None of that comes close to "we don't really care what's wrong with it; we're done talking about it."
TL;DR: if Bungie pops its head onto the gaming community forum and sees this:
They aren't thinking "I can't believe how bad we fucked this up, we're losing players left and right, we have to make it up to them somehow" no matter how much you might want that to be the case.
They're thinking "holy fuck, does anyone know how to liquefy cash because I want to bathe in it."
I hope and believe the game will improve dramatically from here on out. I really do. But the sooner you adjust your perspective to what's really going on here and decide what that means to you, the more fun you'll have.
So... you guys talked me into the new OT title. It's gonna be Destiny |OT10| Working As Intended. But I might mean it just a shade differently than you do.
Robdraggoo
Member
Weekly heroic final boss. Need help join psn robdraggoo
Psh like I don't have that 300/300 god damn Icebreaker? Got that P&T too.
Final Boss was my legendary sniper backup though when I use an exotic in another slot
Might just buy whatever legendary sniper Vanguard is selling.. is it... Final Boss?
Psh like I don't have that 300/300 god damn Icebreaker? Got that P&T too.
Final Boss was my legendary sniper backup though when I use an exotic in another slot
Might just buy whatever legendary sniper Vanguard is selling.. is it... Final Boss?
Nah vanguard sells arc epitaph. Crucible vendor sells solar final boss.
BMO = GOAT
Member
Psh like I don't have that 300/300 god damn Icebreaker? Got that P&T too.
Final Boss was my legendary sniper backup though when I use an exotic in another slot
Might just buy whatever legendary sniper Vanguard is selling.. is it... Final Boss?
Yea, Crucible sells Final Boss.
irrotational
Member
I totally agree on a lot of hawkians points, I don't play a lot of games or have much time but I've put 90 hours into it which by my standards is insane!
I am getting to the point where I am not interested in the content...but that's absolutely fine.
I really want to level up my shiny new raid weapons and fiery gloves....and I wish I had a new world or story missions to do it. As it is I can keep dabbling until the DEC and then jump in again.
The raid has also pushed me into hooking up with other gamers, and 6 person co-op is a great feeling when it goes well. You *could* view the raid as bungies next big contribution to online shooter play? They basically invented shooters on consoles, online play and the party system...
I am getting to the point where I am not interested in the content...but that's absolutely fine.
I really want to level up my shiny new raid weapons and fiery gloves....and I wish I had a new world or story missions to do it. As it is I can keep dabbling until the DEC and then jump in again.
The raid has also pushed me into hooking up with other gamers, and 6 person co-op is a great feeling when it goes well. You *could* view the raid as bungies next big contribution to online shooter play? They basically invented shooters on consoles, online play and the party system...
names2hard4you
Member
Got over 100hrs here, and I plan on putting many more. Hawkian, you deserve a slow clap. That post was beautiful.
Guys I just got the pocket infinity bounty. What have I done to myself D:
Guys I just got the pocket infinity bounty. What have I done to myself D:
Bungie really needs to remove the weekly limit on raids. Considering how vital raid gear is they need to let players run it as many times as they need to.
Not only that, but the raid is actually really damn fun too. The most fun part of the game shouldn't be locked down to once a week.
Not only that, but the raid is actually really damn fun too. The most fun part of the game shouldn't be locked down to once a week.
That's really interesting, that's how I thought it worked but gatti-man said it's only after a certain point. The mode stayed the same every time you looked though, or did it switch at some time?
Thank you, and definitely hope you can join us sometime!
Don't hesitate to go for a spot in the Thursday newb raid even if you consider yourself well-versed in the vault. We also use it as an opportunity to try things we aren't comfortable with yet and improve.
Yeah that is definitely the right approach. I mean once you get bored of what there is, I would never suggest anyone keep playing "just because."
shhh
SkylineRKR
Member
Not sure about a limit removal in its entirety. But they could limit it to 2 or 3 times a week over your account. People make alts anyway and all it takes from there is a gear switch.
That's really interesting, that's how I thought it worked but gatti-man said it's only after a certain point. The mode stayed the same every time you looked though, or did it switch at some time?
Thank you, and definitely hope you can join us sometime!
Don't hesitate to go for a spot in the Thursday newb raid even if you consider yourself well-versed in the vault. We also use it as an opportunity to try things we aren't comfortable with yet and improve.
Yeah that is definitely the right approach. I mean once you get bored of what there is, I would never suggest anyone keep playing "just because."
shhh
Still says control and still have the boost 4 games in
Hung Wei Lo
Member
I'd like to get in on this too since I've (finally) got my alt up to 27
k1t4j
Member
And I assume that applies to weapons..... damn
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