ramuh
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Digital Foundry Performance Analysis: Fallout 4
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FaintDeftone
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Wow, looks like I'm definitely going for the PC version. It's a shame the console versions ended up a bit rough. Hopefully they're get resolved in a few patches.
Exact area I had a lot of lag too. DF are lame for not including this area in their video, its near the beginning of the game and it should be addressed as its more laggy then any part of their video
Gamersyde has some videos of both versions. Don't see those freezes in the XB1 version but the framerate goes down to 20fps or less in some loading areas.
edit: youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ7DGVNgY-ZRc6LrnBQeZPg/videos
edit: youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ7DGVNgY-ZRc6LrnBQeZPg/videos
I think JeffG is saying the two consoles versions look close to each other.
Dick Justice
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No, just post your username and a dumb smiley at the end of your posts like a bellend.
ethomaz
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Seems like texture loading issue...Someone posted this gif, I can definitely see the difference.
JeffG
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Someone posted this gif, I can definitely see the difference.
Thats not a difference between consoles. (Not saying there isn't a difference...but that ain't it)
wonder if time played will change performance? It has to a certain extent with other bethesda games.
All i'm saying is a performance test that happens directly out of the vault won't matter much if your load times and fps decrease the longer you play and the more items you have or collected/changed.
All i'm saying is a performance test that happens directly out of the vault won't matter much if your load times and fps decrease the longer you play and the more items you have or collected/changed.
dealer-
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I'm not entirely sure, I know there are three or four guys who work for Digital Foundry and reviewers are part of a separate team I think.
Someone posted this gif, I can definitely see the difference.
My eyes! The bone version looks like a barren wasteland of post processing effects.
Orthogonal
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There are a few missing assets, but the XO version does not have any shadows. The PC version does.
Someone posted this gif, I can definitely see the difference.
Probably the biggest LoD/Shadow difference this generation, but the PS4/XBO versions look similar.
No, that's just draw distance/LOD on consoles being lower than PC at higher settings.
XenogearsX
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damn the shadows make such a difference, too bad they couldn't make it look like that on the consoles even if it was at a lower fps
AstroNut325
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So the Gamebyro engine strikes again from the looks of it. Will Bethesda ever step away from that engine?
ethomaz
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I don't know the house is missing walls... looks like it is loading it in the Xbone version yet... maybe with some more time the Xbone get a better picture.
Of course there is less assets in Xbone version but half asset seems to be loading issue.
Cave Johnson
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Take a look at the reviews and how they openly sweep their issues on the side.
Lol, whut? That's aggressive LOD for both the meshes and shadows. The draw-distance on consoles is vastly lower than PC.
El-Pistolero
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It is far from ideal on the PS4. But the horrible Xbox One version puts things into perspective...
What is it with this franchise and the lackluster performance on consoles?
What is it with this franchise and the lackluster performance on consoles?
What you're actually seeing is the PC version drawing in shadows in the distance thereby filling the openings in the house with darkness, and the XBO version not drawing those shadows. Add to that the models themselves having a higher level of detail on PC because that can be pushed out farther on PC, and more assets like bushes/grass because again the draw distance is pushed out farther. This isn't a streaming/loading issue.
It's the aggressive LoD (Level of Detail) in the console versions. It basically removes objects from the gameworld until you're close enough, then it 'pops' them back in.
I mean, that's in comparison to the PC version. The PS4 likely also has pretty short draw distance on shadows.
I think he was talking about the "console pair" in that tweet:
@ciaranmck: @dannyodwyer How does the Xbox version hold to PS4. I want the Xbox version ye see?
@dannyodwyer: @ciaranmck15 Better. I played 10 hours on Xbox One and it was fine.
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Look at the picture full-sized: There aren't walls being loaded in, it's just the shadows.
They're not being drawn in on Xbox because it's too much strain on the engine. That's what LOD is there for - to cut elements from the distance that aren't deemed necessary so that performance increase.
ethomaz
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And what about the PS4 and these shadows?
They're the same.
Kssio_Aug
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Experienced the same issue in the XB1? Or you played the PS4 version aswell?
Aenima
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I just looked at the X1 performace analisis and right in the begining thers a frame drop to 2fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-A1aWmQw0
The Mad Draklor
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"Very slightly more janky"
Gies might as well add every qualifier from the dictionary xD
Blackthorn
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The only major gripe I have with the graphics on PS4 is the obnoxiously short shadow rendering distance, looks like a near constant distraction.
Portugeezer
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Collateral22
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Damn here I was panicking about the PS4 version and going to get it on XB1. Yesterdays thread made it look like the XB1 version was solid 30fps and the ps4 version was frequently 15fps
yep and they'll keep getting away with it.
Zombie James
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How do people not notice this? It's so obvious and there's data to back it up.
This is when he is in the armor menu. In normal gameplay I only see a drop to 17fps when he is walking back in the deathclaw fighting.
The other videos without the framerate counter I didn't found a freeze like in the DF videos.
Are you fucking kidding me? Lol ok.
CloakedPuppet
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Figured that the PC version would be safe this time around (unlike the Arkham Knight disaster). Glad I have that option this generation. May wait for a patch or so still (or a sweet GMG discount). Good to know that I'll be getting the best version when I decide to pull the trigger.
Silent-blades
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So the Alienware alpha will run this better? I have the I3 version.
The fact that at no part of the PS4 vs XB1 video do they go inside any building isn't getting pointed out enough. I understand it from their perspective.. like if you test performance in games the last spot you expect drops in an open world game is inside a buildings interior. Esp one that has a load screen before it.
Almost every video showcasing the fps drops have been inside a building.
Almost every video showcasing the fps drops have been inside a building.
That seems like their FPS tool getting confused when the menu is opened, rather than a legitimate drop to 2 fps. Blimblim mentioned this:
XenogearsX
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PC is the "best" version in terms of raw performance, but other people prefer to play on consoles, despite the poorer fps and graphics, so it's all up to the user to decide what is "best" way they want to play the game
Extra Sauce
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PS4 version performing better than XBO doesn't mean it runs well...
AgentOtaku
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Yeah it's unfortunate
Anyone if the console versions still have the gross microstutter the engine is known for?
Kssio_Aug
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Yeah. Actually the XB1 version seems way more solid by Gamersyde videos, compared to the DF anaylsis. I'm a bit more releived.
It's the same. Here's a good example of what LOD does btw. One is ultra and the other one is ini tweaked max LOD
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-co...-001-ugrids-13-fully-tweaked-vs-ugrids-5.html