Not quite, but there are several hard counter picks.
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Not quite, but there are several hard counter picks.
Hmm, alright. I have a problem of cornering myself when I'm just building meter but I'll try to come out with more get away strategies.
I get myself killed whenever I get aggressive, which usually happens whenever I get Kick Factor or just after getting a headshot. I actually burn meter to avoid kick factor.
storafötter;77911433 said:
Actual quote from Keits when Jefailey was introduced: "He's the Dan of this game."
SolarKnight
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YOLO Shoals/Stream vs Jefaily might as well be 10-0 really.
This game isn't broken/imbalanced especially when you consider that the 2-3 best characters in the game are easily beatable with fundamentals/reads. Compared to other fighers the top tiers in this game are very fair. Some characters can definitely use some buffs though and there are some hard counter picks especially Shoals vs Jefailey which is the one true 9-1 match up in the game.
SolarKnight
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Yeah, for the most part I'd say it's all about 3 things: fundamentals, reads, and match up knowledge.
FriedConsole
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I guess I am dumb. I thought I had to hold down the "Select" button too when navigating.
Is there a way to go back in the menus on the Vita version? Holding the dive button doesn't work.
A Sentient Keyboard
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I guess I am dumb. I thought I had to hold down the "Select" button too when navigating.
Is there a way to go back in the menus on the Vita version? Holding the dive button doesn't work.
Nope, not as far as I can tell. I don't find the 2-button menus annoying, but not being able to back out of menus is an issue for me.
There are these two guys on PSN, wartutle and compsi, who I keep getting matched up against, who both have hundreds less points than me and who both pick kick with meter gem every game and spam kick+kick to build meter and use party starter over and over again. Every time I chain headshots and win.
What is going on? Who are they, anyone else face them?
What is going on? Who are they, anyone else face them?
A Sentient Keyboard
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They're just trying to see how you respond to their partystarter game. First 6 matches are data.
I am starting to think there are some serious matchmaking problems, I notice this too. I get the same like 2 or 3 people over and over.
Yes. I played wartutle a bunch of times this morning, and he kept doing exactly what you're describing. I frauded him like four or five times before I left for work. I don't get it either.
That's shoals.
A Sentient Keyboard
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That's Dr. Shoals. Shoals' kickback is a straight up backdash (moves very horizontally, can't be divekicked from'), so I guess that's why it's visuallized with Stream's 'kickback wings'.
The other one with wings is Dr. Shoals' stance. Her kickback goes really far.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Any reason why Kick is so absent from the (PC) leaderboards? It's mostly Dive, Shoals, Markman and S-Kill.
QisTopTier
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I would have been fucking pissed xD
It makes me rage enough to lose after a parry vs Shoals
So I switched to an arcade stick from an Xbox 360 and PS3 controller on a whim after I was extremely frustrated with my performance. Suddenly, moves are coming out when I want them to and I've started winning again.
Didn't realize an arcade stick would make such a dramatic difference compared to the controllers.
Didn't realize an arcade stick would make such a dramatic difference compared to the controllers.
I've encounter a bug enough times I need to complain. After engaging kickfactor the screen zooms in and pulls out, but sometimes when you kick again it will zoom in a little bit more and stay there. Or the zoom carries over into the next. Playing DK cropped is possible, but not great.
There's also a bug (might only be with Stream, not sure) when it transitions to the next round he'll instantly jump straight up. It happens before the round starts so it doesn't effect the match. It's possible it only happens when he gets headshot, not sure.
There's also a bug (might only be with Stream, not sure) when it transitions to the next round he'll instantly jump straight up. It happens before the round starts so it doesn't effect the match. It's possible it only happens when he gets headshot, not sure.
Dives jump+kick angle is more aggressive so people choose him. That's probably all there is to it. Dives specials are probably more appealing too.
Speaking of bugs, there's one with Kenny where if he dies or kills the opponent after he had activated his air special soon before, the vibrating sound of that special will persist throughout the whole match and it can happen multiple times (so two of those sounds are occurring at the same time at different intervals).
I bought a stick just for Divekick.
It's not a fancy sanwa button stick but it works.I've witnessed similar bugs where the camera zooms in and won't zoom out. Usually in laggy conditions where the game thinks a death happens and zooms in for the death animation. If the game rolls back, the zoom does not undo and you're stuck fighting with a limited viewing space.
Yay, just snagged the #1 spot on PSN. Time to take a break, I've played way too much of this game.
I can't say for certain, I main dive, but if I had to guess I'd say it's because of his relatively low dive. Most of the top tier characters have an air advantage over him.
Also, anyone know what's the difference between your PR and your CR? My CR is around 20 below my PR. What is it and how is it calculated?
I can't say for certain, I main dive, but if I had to guess I'd say it's because of his relatively low dive. Most of the top tier characters have an air advantage over him.
Also, anyone know what's the difference between your PR and your CR? My CR is around 20 below my PR. What is it and how is it calculated?
We know about all this stuff.
The zoom getting stuck is a problem with the GGPO rollback happening.
The Stream bug we know about but haven't solved. The Kenny audio bug we know about and should be able to solve.
Ah, that makes sense, thanks. I think I played one games as Shoals, which would explain the 20 point difference.
People see Kick as a Dive clone and most people play Dive because he's the main character (sort of like the Ryu of the game). It will take a while before people realize that Kick is pretty damn good too and worth playing.
The R is for Rating, so its actually you Player Score and Character Score.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Woo, finally broke 200 PR, current w/l 24-25. Feel like I'm finally getting the hang of this game. I'm gonna play my match for the GB tournament in an hour or two so here's hoping I can make something happen.
I can't play Redacted to save my life. I feel that if I play anything other than super-defensive I might as well be playing Mr. N, since he has better escape options and thus isn't at as much of a risk when pushing.
I can't play Redacted to save my life. I feel that if I play anything other than super-defensive I might as well be playing Mr. N, since he has better escape options and thus isn't at as much of a risk when pushing.
with the dive gem it's just so easy to punish wiffed kicks from pretty much anyone. she especially counters doctor shoals because i can get up in the air so quickly. in most matchups i play hyper aggressive and try and force them to kick and punish it
A Sentient Keyboard
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Art is streaming Divekick right now with Joe Sixpack: http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
A Sentient Keyboard
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Lost my GB tournament match but won my GAF one!
The twist: the guy I lost from in the GB tournament could be my next opponent in the GAF one.
The twist: the guy I lost from in the GB tournament could be my next opponent in the GAF one.
ian to the max
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Oh shit, we got storylines!
Same here. High Five!
I feel ya. I accidentally threw a spring onto my starting area as Markman and it lasted for two rounds with me starting the round jumping on it. I guess positioning is just another skill needed for good MM play.
Orpheus Telos
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Anyone up for some matches on PSN right now? I was hoping the tournament bracket would catch up to me but that seems to be a pipe dream for tonight.
Me and ian had the same thing. Quoting from the tournament thread:keits!!!!
chracters where dive/dive
gems kick/dive
stage dont actually remember
what whats happening, middle of the fight diving around it was 0/4 at that moment.
We had 2 desyncs. The first one I don't remember, I think it was 4649 maybe? Or 4642. Don't quote me on that.
The second desync was Frame: 14362. I was hosting. ian was Dive with dive gem. I was Kick with style gem. We just started the match, keeping our distance doing kicks and it desynced 2-5 seconds in. I think it was kennys stage.
Edit: With the steam chat problem I pinpointed that the game was affected any time me or ian typed in the chat box or sent a message. That's when it would slow down to 15 fps. The warping seemed to happen when the chat box was open.
ian to the max
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If Tobe is posting from our game, I guess the issue has to lie with me. I had some problems playing online (teleporting, lag, etc.) when the game was first released, but those appear to have cleared up over the past couple of days.