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Doctor Who Series 2011 |OT| Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff
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PhoncipleBone
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I always think of him from Battlestar Galactica and Supernatural. But a DS9 crossover would be cool. The Doctor and Sisko.DrForester said:Finally, the Deep Space Nine crossover we've been waiting for.
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DrForester said:Finally, the Deep Space Nine crossover we've been waiting for.
Looks like a pink Abzorbaloff.
Android18a said:The Writers Tale pissed me off. I couldn't even finish reading it. I wanted to throw it out of a window. Instead I sold it
Christmas Invasion was pretty good, but I generally found RTD's scripts, more than anything else, extremely childish. Whether it's farting Slitheen or Tennant running around with Cassandra inside of him acting extra-camp it just reeked of Panto rather than Serious Television.
Having said *that*, I think Midnight remains one of the strongest episodes of the Eccleson/Tennant era and when he managed to keep it fairly subtle and interesting, he was capable of some darn good writing.
Perhaps if they got him to do 1 script in the next season, it would shine. I'd like to think so.
Anyway, loved this special. Leagues ahead of the last three.
Said it before, will say it again.
Davies is great at dialogue and shit at plots.
Midnight is constructed like a play, with one set and lots of dialogue and played to his strengths, rather than letting him cut loose and doing some camp, shit plot like he usually does with Xmas or the finales.
That said, keep him away from Who. Would rather let Moffat be Davies-free.
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So with the season break, does that mean they aren't making the while season all at once like previously?
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The Doctor can regenerate 507 times now?! :lol
There goes The Deadly Assassin and Trial of a Time Lord. :lol
There goes The Deadly Assassin and Trial of a Time Lord. :lol
Whimsical Phil
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Really loved this episode. Easily the best of the Christmas specials. I like Matt Smith more and more with each new episode.
I got a kick out of the Sherlock-ish deduction scene at the beginning, and the Ghost of Christmas Future
reveal took me by surprise--probably my favorite part of the episode.
There was even a little nod to Penn & Teller (
).
I got a kick out of the Sherlock-ish deduction scene at the beginning, and the Ghost of Christmas Future
"I'm showing it to you right now"
There was even a little nod to Penn & Teller (
when the Doctor immediately guessed the Three of Clubs
Dead Man Typing
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Loved it, I can't wait to see this episode in HD, when I get Series 6 Blu Ray set for next Christmas.
I got the Series 5 Blu Ray set, but my PS3 is quite far away right now, and I'll have to wait 3 weeks to watch it. Torture.
It's been nice dropping in on this thread again, but I'm avoiding the preview and any analysis. I'm annoyed about 2 details I've read on this page, but hopefully I'll forget those by the Spring.
I got the Series 5 Blu Ray set, but my PS3 is quite far away right now, and I'll have to wait 3 weeks to watch it. Torture.
It's been nice dropping in on this thread again, but I'm avoiding the preview and any analysis. I'm annoyed about 2 details I've read on this page, but hopefully I'll forget those by the Spring.
BenjaminBirdie
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This was absolutely beautiful. I gave up on the most recent season around that two part Weeping Angels episode. Just sort of lost interest. Doctor Who never really clicked for me until he showed up in Karzan's old movie. Then I kind of got it.
Now I need to go back and watch Season 5 again.
Now I need to go back and watch Season 5 again.
PhoncipleBone
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GAH! Go finish it, STAT! And you have seen the previous four seasons of new Who right? But "Time of Angels" was awesome. But wait until the last couple, they are awesome.BenjaminBirdie said:
BenjaminBirdie
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PhoncipleBone said:
No, that was my first season.
PhoncipleBone
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It is a good first season, but the Angels episode is not as scary without seeing "Blink" from season 3. That is still the pinnacle for new Who to me.BenjaminBirdie said:
If you have Netflix instant, they have the first four seasons on instant watch. There are some clunkers in there, but a lot of gems. Season 5 was probably the most consistent and strong though.
PhoncipleBone
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Yup. Was there in Eleventh Hour, but I remember it most from The Lodger.maharg said:
mightynine
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I think Abigail's Song might be some of the best work Foster's done. Of course, it's not hurting him having those pipes involved.
Hope that's a good sign for the music this season.
Hope that's a good sign for the music this season.
infiniteloop
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bengraven said:
Definitely one of the best looking Who eps. ever. That post-opening titles shot panning down the city was gorgeous.
DrForester
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Just caught on that "Silence Will Fall" is in the last line of the song....
PhoncipleBone
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Caught that when viewing, and had a smirk on my face when they said it.DrForester said:
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DrForester said:
'Splain!
PhoncipleBone
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Prisoner Zero left that as a warning to the Doctor in Eleventh Hour. "The Silence will fall!"devildog820 said:
Big Papa Husker
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Just for fun I watched Blink on Netflix tonight. Man, what a great episode. The angels are much scarier in that episode than Series 5.
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Big Papa Husker said:
Definitely. It helps that there were only 4 in Blink. A whole army of them kind of dulls it.
Still, the moment they turn their head in series 5 brought the episode to blink heights for me if only for a couple minutes.
Almost forgot to catch this at Xmas, was not bothered due to previous Xmas efforts but watched it last night anyway, I loved it!
Plus it helps that I think Jenkins is one of the hottest women in the world. I think she did alright for a first outting plus listening to her sing makes me feel genuinely funny inside.
8/10 for me and they are getting much better CG artists in now!
Plus it helps that I think Jenkins is one of the hottest women in the world. I think she did alright for a first outting plus listening to her sing makes me feel genuinely funny inside.
8/10 for me and they are getting much better CG artists in now!
Got time to sit down and watch the special last night.
Loved every minute. One of my favourite specials, and Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor, easily. I cant say a bad word about Tennant, but Smith just does something incredible with the role.
Was laughing at the snowman line. "Yeah, ive been busy", implying he built all 20 of them :lol
Loved every minute. One of my favourite specials, and Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor, easily. I cant say a bad word about Tennant, but Smith just does something incredible with the role.
Was laughing at the snowman line. "Yeah, ive been busy", implying he built all 20 of them :lol
infiniteloop
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I wanna see a face spider :lol
"big...big colour"
"what do you call it if you don't have any feet and you're taking a run up?"
Promo from BBC America from Spring season:
http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2010/12/series-6-promo-from-bbc-america.html
"big...big colour"
"what do you call it if you don't have any feet and you're taking a run up?"
Promo from BBC America from Spring season:
http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2010/12/series-6-promo-from-bbc-america.html
JoshuaJSlone
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Checking Wikipedia, it doesn't seem like Moffat has really had anything to do with science fiction outside of Doctor Who. Dude must've just been hoarding away time travel ideas through the years.
There is one bit of the episode that bugged me a bit.
Abigail: One more day and I die. *freezes*
Kazran: *thinking to himself* My beloved is dying, and there's nothing we can do about it! What can I do? If only I had access to some sort of genius who himself had access to all of time and space, and has shown a great willingness to save people, especially his friends. Hell, maybe someone who could prevent her catching the disease to begin with. ... Hey... wait a minute... Doctor! Just a second, Doctor!
Doctor: Yes?
Kazran: Fuck you!
There is one bit of the episode that bugged me a bit.
Abigail: One more day and I die. *freezes*
Kazran: *thinking to himself* My beloved is dying, and there's nothing we can do about it! What can I do? If only I had access to some sort of genius who himself had access to all of time and space, and has shown a great willingness to save people, especially his friends. Hell, maybe someone who could prevent her catching the disease to begin with. ... Hey... wait a minute... Doctor! Just a second, Doctor!
Doctor: Yes?
Kazran: Fuck you!
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Maybe Abigail's death is a fixed point in time or some shit.
JoshuaJSlone
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Doctor not being able to help is possible, and could even work well for Kazran's turn to bitterness and unwillingness to help the Doctor. But that he just thought it was better to hush it up seems weird to me.Regulus Tera said:
Android18a
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Am I the only one who was crushing slightly on 20-something Kazran? Who is the actor? Him and the girl who played Abigail were both gorgeous. They would have produced like perfect kids together.
mightynine
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I know what I'm adding to my Christmas music mix next year: The Doctor Who Cast with "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas".
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Danny Horn
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Actually, a question if you don't mind:Nickiepoo said:
Russel T Davies went (at least initially) for a more documentary aesthetic with the show, the ultimate look being something closer to an episode of Eastenders than Battlestar Galactica. Moffat's approach has been, for lack of a better term, more cinematic in presentation, something that looks like it was shot on film rather than digital. How much did this shift in show aesthetic affect the work you guys do, if at all? When designing effects or monsters, does such a change even need to be a concious part of the process?
PhoncipleBone
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I for one love the more film like look to things. I am fine with documentary style camera work like BSG had, but the cinematography of this past season of Who has been fantastic and makes it look leagues better than the previous seasons.
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For the most part the 'film look' is down to the physical camera/filming techniques (for memory they splashed on new cameras at the start of S5) and the grading (colour correction, which is what gives you those cold blues and warm oranges which never occur naturally together but modern films seem to be obsessed with) so it doesn't really effect us directly at all.
Boring answer I'm afraid
Oh, yeah, I suspected it was probably a mostly colour grading thing on the technical side, what I meant was if it affected the design process itself, rather than the creation of the effects proper. For instance, I don't think the Adipose critters would exactly fit the new aesthetic - with the current show's look, would those probably have been conceptualised differently?Nickiepoo said:For the most part the 'film look' is down to the physical camera/filming techniques (for memory they splashed on new cameras at the start of S5) and the grading (colour correction, which is what gives you those cold blues and warm oranges which never occur naturally together but modern films seem to be obsessed with) so it doesn't really effect us directly at all.
Boring answer I'm afraid
... or does that conceptualisation stuff just not fall into your remit at all?
Suairyu said:
Not really. While we do do a lot of the concept work the director generally already knows roughly what he wants so it's mostly about getting it on paper so that the modelers and textures have something unified to work to. The artist does get creative freedom, but he's given guidelines directly from the director so the actual process doesn't change per-say.
PhoncipleBone
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They switched to HD cameras with Planet of the Dead, which probably plays a big part in how good it looks compared to the other shows and the kind of lighting they use for the cinematography. Also using the HD cameras does allow for easier color correction, much like how they did BSG.Nickiepoo said:
Ivan A Nguyen
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Great Christmas special! It threw some of the rules out the window in service of story, and I'm ok with that. Bearded doctor for the win!
Dr Zhivago
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I enjoyed the Christmas ep, but I did have a few issues with it. As already mentioned,why didn't Kazran tell the Doctor about Abigail's illness? What's happened to Blinovich Limitation?
But my main issue is that if the Doctor can manipulate someone's life to that degree, it makes him too powerful. Why doesn't he do that all the time? In the days when the Doctor couldn't control the Tardis this wasn't an issue, but these days he can land it with supreme accuracy (except when he can't).
Gorgeous looking episode though, and another great Murray Gold song.
But my main issue is that if the Doctor can manipulate someone's life to that degree, it makes him too powerful. Why doesn't he do that all the time? In the days when the Doctor couldn't control the Tardis this wasn't an issue, but these days he can land it with supreme accuracy (except when he can't).
Gorgeous looking episode though, and another great Murray Gold song.
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My impression is that the show is just a highlight reel of his travels and adventures, and that most of the time he can control the TARDIS with some accuracy, but that the TARDIS has a bit of a mind of it's own when it comes to important events. Naturally, important events are what we see almost exclusively.
Likewise, if being accurate is important, like in the case of Abigail's eight days of Xmas, it can accommodate that.
The whole thing at the end of S5, to me, was them bringing in the "will" of the TARDIS itself. I believe Moffat even said in a pre-S5 interview that he wanted to start exploring that.
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