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Dota 2 |OT| To Hell and Back and Back to Hell
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shira
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Can't wait to buy my TPL tickey
balladofwindfishes
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there's also the animation looping fix for wards and couriers confirmed for this week.
So we are getting a patch eventually... just stands to see how big it turns out.
So we are getting a patch eventually... just stands to see how big it turns out.
The tutorials are great. I've only played ~35 games so far but I'm really enjoying the game (even if I'm pretty bad at it still).
Where does all of valve's love go now? Want to get ahead of the curve.
balladofwindfishes
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I can't even imagine the Dota 2 community with the release schedule the game will have in 3-5 years.
If 2 months without a new hero means the game is dead and 30+ new item sets since then isn't any content, they should look at TF2's update history over the last year haha.
If 2 months without a new hero means the game is dead and 30+ new item sets since then isn't any content, they should look at TF2's update history over the last year haha.
I don't know, I think that's acceptable when you've reached a certain point (like ikuu said above). Dota 1 is different because dota 1 is a finished game. Dota 2 is a promised direct port that hasn't been 100% ported for over 3 years now. Missing core heroes, missing core game modes, and cluttered with faulty mechanics here and there that haven't been fixed in forever. I think people expect more because of this.
Dota 2 is a wonderful game and I love it to death, but to go from the 2011-2012 content release cycle to this... is just disappointing to say the least, especially when there is still a chunk of content to add.
I noticed that both s2 and Valve's content releases slowed significantly after their stores/cosmetics were released
. I guess it makes sense that when the game becomes profitable they start to move people to cosmetics (chests, keys, item verification duty idk), store management, monetization features (compendium/fantasy teams), and quite simply, to other games.Left 4 Dead 3!
Really? Like what? I never played dota 1, so am not familiar with everything that was in the game.
Not looking for a full roster of heros, just which ones are the most prominent ones that are missing. And what other game modes were there?
SteveWinwood
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http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Unreleased_content
there are even still missing neutral creeps that no one ever seems to give a shit about
Once I get past all the "training" how was community and learning curve when you were thrown in with the wolves? Was it pretty rough for the first 10 or so games?
Schweinehund
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valve's approach to dota 2 is much different than other dota games, they seem to be mostly hands off and let the community generate content (barring the international, which was partially crowd funded this time around). I don't know if this can compete with riot's take on esports in the long run.
SteveWinwood
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Play with friends. Make new ones if yours don't play dota.
Interesting, thanks. So if these updates on that page are made, would Dota 2 reach feature parity of Dota 1?
Yeah, I dont have any that play Dota. Just CS. Ill just make some in game as quick as I can I think, because that seems to be the response Ive seen a lot for these types of games.
I don't know, I think that's acceptable when you've reached a certain point (like ikuu said above). Dota 1 is different because dota 1 is a finished game. Dota 2 is a promised direct port that hasn't been 100% ported for over 3 years now. Missing core heroes, missing core game modes, and cluttered with faulty mechanics here and there that haven't been fixed in forever. I think people expect more because of this.
Dota 2 is a wonderful game and I love it to death, but to go from the 2011-2012 content release cycle to this... is just disappointing to say the least, especially when there is still a chunk of content to add.
I noticed that both s2 and Valve's content releases slowed significantly after their stores/cosmetics were released
With the way valve's employees can do what they like, it may be that a number of them have simply decided they don't want to work on things like heroes for a while, which may be why the rate has slowed down so much. Also, the rumoured horde mode, getting the mod tools and/or a possible map editor ready and other miscellaneous features could be holding their interest, and therefore effort. Of course many including me will think they should just focus on reaching parity before any of that but unfortunately with valve's structure it comes down to the whim of the worker's really.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Aside from the control style it's not going to help.
There are a couple of game modes in Dota 1(give me captains draft already damn it.) that are not listed on that page. But other than those, yes.
It wasn't bad. I mean I still get yelled at from time to time and haven't purchased a ward yet but I'm not playing against the best players in the world either (outside of a random smurf now and then).
Captain Fish
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NotoriousPUG
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How long did it take most of you guys to leave normal and get into high and very high games? Any ideas on what contributes to it?
The Technomancer
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If I buy wards then I can't buy my other items as fast
So basically don't tell me to buy wards, tell me to get better at last hitting so I can afford the wards along with my shiny gear
Let me shit on your parade further:
If you're the one buying wards, you shouldn't be doing a lot of last hitting.
Have they made any indication that they plan to support future enhancements after that? Or are people expecting just a bunch of minor tweaks/balancing/bug fixes after they roll out all the Dota 1 stuff?
I'm sure just making everything balanced & competitive for the pro scene takes a lot of time, energy, and resources. And the game is already rich and deep enough to me (who still hasn't played every hero and still isn't good at game) that it really doesn't need more stuff, really. But I'm guess those of you who have hit 2000+ hours would want some sort of idea of what Valve's future plans for the game are beyond Dota 1 feature parity.
The Technomancer
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If I buy wards then I can't buy my other items as fast
So basically don't tell me to buy wards, tell me to get better at last hitting so I can afford the wards along with my shiny gear
If you're a support you shouldn't be last hitting as much anyway. The vision from wards is probably more valuable to the team then most of your early items. Sorry, but a Null Talisman or whatever doesn't have as much impact as good warding.
If you're in more of a carry role then yeah, you should be last hitting and farming but then other players should be the ones buying the wards for you. But in the low tier the chances of that are unfortunately slim...
balladofwindfishes
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I have no idea, they're being all weird and unpredictable these last few weeks.
TI3 couldn't have possibly tired them out this much...
No updates til Oct 31st, then none til Christmas cause "they're recovering from Halloween updates"\\
It's happening.
SteveWinwood
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guys this just means when we do get an update it will be HUGE
right
right
30 new sets!
balladofwindfishes
Member
Maybe they're waiting for 6.79 and working on implementing it for a parity patch next week. They did this sort of stuff with 6.78 (the weeks before were very light)
I don't know, something must be up. Before TI3 they said they had enough unshipped fixes and content to last for weeks after TI3 while they rest. Evidently they seem to have shipped the entire load in one patch and called it a day.
Shorty11857
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Honestly I got out of Normal very quickly once I started playing properly, it just felt like one game Dota just clicked and I went on a big win streak.
Half of what contributes to it is just getting better and maybe staying away from heroes that don't impact the game a lot by themselves. also I wouldn't recommend hard carries or playing super hardcore support. Try not to rely on your team's hard carry being able to farm well or your support being able to create space for you to farm, go mid if you can with someone like QoP or Puck, anyone who can setup kills really. Some supports are good too if you can set up kills with them, doesn't matter if your carry can't last hit if you can get some kills in lane
SteveWinwood
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You're already worrying about it too much.
Just focus on getting better. The game's matchmaking will keep up don't worry.
You mean zyzz
all u gotta do is be ownage at dota if ur ownage at dota it means that you can get into very high matchmaking which isnt really a big deal at all really there are alot of awful players in there that honestly make gaffers look halfdecent so dont worry about matchmaking and where valve places u as long as youre having fun its all that matters
shira
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If I buy wards then I can't buy my other items as fast
So basically don't tell me to buy wards, tell me to get better at last hitting so I can afford the wards along with my shiny gear
My god, you almost finished the I by yourself
Schweinehund
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dead game.
parity by 2015, believe.
parity by 2015, believe.
only half joking
If you're playing a support character, buy the god damned donkey, buy the god damned wards, buy a god damned salve and some tangos and don't get god damned hit so you can give them to the carry when he runs out of his. If you have brown boots before 10 minutes you are BAD AT DOTO.
Yeah, so I've gotten accustomed to taking my role as the oft sole support in solo queue pub games a little too seriously, but if I won't then who will? WHO will??
Yeah, so I've gotten accustomed to taking my role as the oft sole support in solo queue pub games a little too seriously, but if I won't then who will? WHO will??
SteveWinwood
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I actually just wrote out a post about this but thought it was too serious and mean so I pressed back.
I'd be upset if my support didn't have boots before ten minutes.
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