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[poppabk]

Keep in mind there were 25 hours today, so we need to normalize the CCUs by the correction factor 25/24 which gives us 93,143 24hr-day CCU hours. So if we are being fair then it got well over 90K, and you can pretty much round that up to 100,000.

Hopefully we can petition SteamDB to update the all time peak or at least put an asterisk next to it.

EA Play Pro. They have taught EA gamers not to buy games.

 

[LMJ]

I'm just going to leave this here



Such mediocre writing

 

[Raven117]

The game they accused of being bigoted actually did better. 7 years ago when Steam had less users. Made by an indie developer. Also a single player action rpg. Would love to read the spin how this isn't a failure for Bioware.

This is some poetic justice.

 

[Gaiff]

Seems it reached its peak. If this game had a good reputation, next week could have seen it go higher due to word of mouth, but this isn't happening. I was confident it would have reached over 100K, but it won't.

I'm not sure what Bioware expected for this title, but Metaphor, which had a comparable peak, sold 1 million in 1 day. That's great for a AA game, but for a AAA game like this that is several times the budget? I think it underperformed, but we'll know soon enough. PlayStation has to be outselling PC 2 or even 3 to 1 for this to be successful.

 

[tkscz]

Veilguard has 28k viewers on Twitch. For a big AAA game that’s been out for 4 days, that’s kinda terrible.

Well 70k players on steam is bad for a game that more thank likely cost $100M+ just to develop, let alone publish

 

[FunkMiller]

Seems it reached its peak. If this game had a good reputation, next week could have seen it go higher due to word of mouth, but this isn't happening. I was confident it would have reached over 100K, but it won't.

I'm not sure what Bioware expected for this title, but Metaphor, which had a comparable peak, sold 1 million in 1 day. That's great for a AA game, but for a AAA game like this that is several times the budget? I think it underperformed, but we'll know soon enough. PlayStation has to be outselling PC 2 or even 3 to 1 for this to be successful.

The fact we don’t get to see Playstation sales figures will give EA and the games press all the excuses they need to claim the game was a success, whatever it does on Steam.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Now that we know Bioware is dead on PC, It's time for Sony to use some of that black ops 6 money and secure Mass Effect as an exclusive.

 

[SJRB]

Now that we know Bioware is dead on PC, It's time for Sony to use some of that black ops 6 money and secure Mass Effect as an exclusive.

Sony should buy Bioware from EA (because EA sure as shit isn't keen on keeping these bozos around after yet another epic failure) and fucking fire everyone, blacklist every lead dev working there and close the studio.

For the greater good.

 

[clarky]

Now that we know Bioware is dead on PC, It's time for Sony to use some of that black ops 6 money and secure Mass Effect as an exclusive.

If this is the shit they are turning out, you can have it for free.

 

[clarky]

Sony should buy Bioware from EA (because EA sure as shit isn't keen on keeping these bozos around after yet another epic failure) and fucking fire everyone, blacklist every lead dev working there and close the studio.

For the greater good.

Well they have experience in that field with Firewalk, no point it going to waste.

 

[Brakum]

Said it a few times before, it'll have at least 100k concurrent players and it's going to reach that. Big budget single player AAA fantasy games always sells a lot. Although with the work and budget they put into it, it'll need like 300k to 400k concurrent player for it to be a decent success on Steam. It won't need crazy high concurrent numbers like the 800k of BG3 or 2.4mil of Wukong but 200k to 300k at least or more.

well..

 

[Thief1987]

Sony should buy Bioware from EA (because EA sure as shit isn't keen on keeping these bozos around after yet another epic failure) and fucking fire everyone, blacklist every lead dev working there and close the studio.

For the greater good.

Yeah, sony lol, which very well might be even worse in woke retardation part

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I'm just going to leave this here



Such mediocre writing

Yup pretty much indistinguishable from Veilguard. Weird how the CHUDs criticize Veilguard but they had no problem with Witcher 3.

 

[Gaiff]

Now that we know Bioware is dead on PC, It's time for Sony to use some of that black ops 6 money and secure Mass Effect as an exclusive.

Have fun with your non-binary Krogans.

I'm just going to leave this here



Such mediocre writing

This is a great example, but can you guys please stop linking that freakin' idiot Asmongold? His commentary provides nothing of value and is actually detrimental. He always links the source, use this instead of having his useless ass talk over the video.

 

[Hookshot]

Bioware going to Sony? You think the Concord devs would have improved this?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Have fun with your non-binary Krogans.

Sorry I can't hear. I was too busy

 

[Setzer]

Couldn't even reach 90k and all the clowns were saying it would surpass 100k on Sunday.

 

[rm082e]

I may have missed it. Has this been discussed here in relation to what EA's expectations might be?

EA Boss Says BioWare Has Returned to Its Strengths With Dragon Age, Predicts 'Breakout Potential' Thanks in Part to 'Limited Competition'

Looking ahead to The Veilguard's release, Wilson praised its solid reviews and suggested that it has "breakout potential" thanks to BioWare's existing fanbase and the relatively clear release calendar. "We're going into a market with limited competition for this category of game given some of the moves that has happened across the broader industry," Wilson said, likely referring to Ubisoft's decision to delay Assassin's Creed Shadows into 2025.

This sounds like he was expecting it to do well, and maybe be a surprise hit. I can't imagine he's going to be happy with what it's done.

It sure seems like this game must be under 2 million units sold, and the word of mouth doesn't seem like it's going to lead to a "long tail". I have no dog in this fight, but it's hard to see a positive narrative here, even if you're trying to be generous.

 

[Last Hearth]

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I may have missed it. Has this been discussed here in relation to what EA's expectations might be?

EA Boss Says BioWare Has Returned to Its Strengths With Dragon Age, Predicts 'Breakout Potential' Thanks in Part to 'Limited Competition'



This sounds like he was expecting it to do well, and maybe be a surprise hit. I can't imagine he's going to be happy with what it's done.

It sure seems like this game must be under 2 million units sold, and the word of mouth doesn't seem like it's going to lead to a "long tail". I have no dog in this fight, but it's hard to see a positive narrative here, even if you're trying to be generous.

This game needs to sell about 5 million units at full price to break even. I think they got to 2.5, maybe 3 if you’re feeling optimistic.

 

[SJRB]

Have fun with your non-binary Krogans.

This is a great example, but can you guys please stop linking that freakin' idiot Asmongold? His commentary provides nothing of value and is actually detrimental. He always links the source, use this instead of having his useless ass talk over the video.

 

[Mayar]

This game needs to sell about 5 million units at full price to break even. I think they got to 2.5, maybe 3 if you’re feeling optimistic.

We don't know the budget of the game, so let's not guess based on information we don't have, there's no point in that. What we do know is that - "Dragon Age: Inquisition sold over 12 million copies. Its success surprised even the publisher, EA. The game set new standards for RPGs." And it was far from the most successful game, and what the bosses at EA definitely won't like is that the game won't reach the sales of DAI it looks bad in the documents when the previous part of the series outsells the new part, especially if the difference is big. That could negatively affect the overall situation in the studio, and investors definitely won't like it.

 

[Gambit2483]

Now that we know Bioware is dead on PC, It's time for Sony to use some of that black ops 6 money and secure Mass Effect as an exclusive.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I may have missed it. Has this been discussed here in relation to what EA's expectations might be?

EA Boss Says BioWare Has Returned to Its Strengths With Dragon Age, Predicts 'Breakout Potential' Thanks in Part to 'Limited Competition'



This sounds like he was expecting it to do well, and maybe be a surprise hit. I can't imagine he's going to be happy with what it's done.

It sure seems like this game must be under 2 million units sold, and the word of mouth doesn't seem like it's going to lead to a "long tail". I have no dog in this fight, but it's hard to see a positive narrative here, even if you're trying to be generous.

The breakout potential surprise hit would be them half expecting it to reach insane numbers closer to whatever BG3 got. Doubt they expect it to get BG3's peak CCP but probably close to it like 600 to 700k. The other half of them were probably thinking it'll hit above 300k peak ccp even if it doesn't have a big huge surprise moment. These kind of games don't just want to break even, they have much higher expectations than that. 200k ccp on steam wouldn't even be a good look. Consoles usually sells more than PC but they'll need to sell a lot more there since the PC numbers aren't even close to being good at all. They still got a chance but a small one with consoles.

 

[Kacho]

EA was definitely thinking this could be another Baldur’s Gate 3.

They don’t understand why a game like Baldur’s Gate hit it big. They look at Veilguard and think it’s close enough.

 

[pasterpl]

If you look the part of a clown, people will think you’ll play the part of a clown.

Is it only similarity to the clown that you claim to see bothers you - if so, what do you have against the clowns? Or maybe it is something else - his hair, his clothing? Or maybe it is the whole presence of that person that concerns you?

 

[Raven117]

I may have missed it. Has this been discussed here in relation to what EA's expectations might be?

EA Boss Says BioWare Has Returned to Its Strengths With Dragon Age, Predicts 'Breakout Potential' Thanks in Part to 'Limited Competition'



This sounds like he was expecting it to do well, and maybe be a surprise hit. I can't imagine he's going to be happy with what it's done.

It sure seems like this game must be under 2 million units sold, and the word of mouth doesn't seem like it's going to lead to a "long tail". I have no dog in this fight, but it's hard to see a positive narrative here, even if you're trying to be generous.

You do have a dog in this fight if you play video games as a hobby.

Like Marvel/Disney is learning, you can’t just shovel down whatever message you want (at the expense of quality writing… this is key) and expect to have your traditional audience.

 

[captainpat]

Is there some secret effort going on to make sure this game's concurrent player numbers never surpasses BG3? lol

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

so.... it's downhill from here, right?

 

[Wildebeest]

EA was definitely thinking this could be another Baldur’s Gate 3.

They don’t understand why a game like Baldur’s Gate hit it big. They look at Veilguard and think it’s close enough.

The CEO wants the sales of Baldur's Gate, but the people below him wanted to turn it into a young adult fiction God of War.

 

[kruis]

87.9k.... As the Europeans go to bed America has failed us all

That's indeed interesting. The CCU peaks every time at 20h UTC, that's 8 PM/9 PM in Europe. So most buyers are from Europe, US gamers seem to have rejected the game. I wonder why that is. Are US gamers more aware of the controversies surrounding the game compared to Europeans?

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

That's indeed interesting. The CCU peaks every time at 20h UTC, that's 8 PM/9 PM in Europe. So most buyers are from Europe, US gamers seem to have rejected the game. I wonder why that is. Are US gamers more aware of the controversies surrounding the game compared to Europeans?

Possible, wokeness is a much bigger issue in the US/Canada than Europe. In the US there is no real left, just radical cultural liberalism masquerading as a left, whereas Europe has a tradition of actual left-wing economic politics and much less space for this kind of stuff

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The game they accused of being bigoted actually did better. 7 years ago when Steam had less users. Made by an indie developer. Also a single player action rpg. Would love to read the spin how this isn't a failure for Bioware.

KCD2 is going to be fucking insane huh

Assuming it ships in a non-jank state anyways

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Possible, wokeness is a much bigger issue in the US/Canada than Europe. In the US there is no real left, just radical cultural liberalism masquerading as a left, whereas Europe has a tradition of actual left-wing economic politics and much less space for this kind of stuff

Despite the worst efforts of the Americans to infect the Europeans, they have stayed relatively sane

"In France we have just 2 genders and that's plenty for us"
- Emmanuel Macron

I'm not making that quote up, Google it assuming that it hasn't been censored out of Google Search

 

[TintoConCasera]

Meanwhile, an actual good game with 0 marketing:

 

[Gambit2483]

EA was definitely thinking this could be another Baldur’s Gate 3.

They don’t understand why a game like Baldur’s Gate hit it big. They look at Veilguard and think it’s close enough.

Yea, except Larian had multiple years of feedback and actual talented writers behind it.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Yea, except Larian had multiple years of feedback and actual talented writers behind it.

I'm not sure I'd call Larian's writers talented lol. They only seem that way in relation to Bioware's

 

[StereoVsn]

Noooooooooooooo they got cock blocked .............. erm sorry I mean non-binary organ blocked. No 90k for them, maybe tomorrow.

No, tomorrow gamers are preparing for the election. Tuesday is Election night. Wednesday half of the audience is going to cry.

So clearly next Friday and Saturday is when it will peak. To 90K and Beyond!

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I'm not sure I'd call Larian's writers talented lol. They only seem that way in relation to Bioware's

Personally I don't even like BG3 and never played it, prefer Rogue Trader a lol more for the CRPG department despise being a much lower budget game. But yeah when I watched videos from it. I could at least understand why people would like BG3 compared to Veilguard.

 

[TrebleShot]

Lol these are pathetic numbers for a tent pole franchise a decade in the making.

Can't say I'm surprised.

Not allowed to say that though. Proper in line with the writing.

Almost forgot the only review worth listening to.

 

[Mozzarella]

That's not good imo, this game is supposed to be big and its day 1 on PC.
Steam is now bigger than ever, imo for a big game anything less than 100k is bad.
Between 100k-250k is Alright
250k+ is good

 

[StereoVsn]

That's not good imo, this game is supposed to be big and its day 1 on PC.
Steam is now bigger than ever, imo for a big game anything less than 100k is bad.
Between 100k-250k is Alright
250k+ is good

Yeah, it really depends on the budget which is why DD2 and Space Marine 2 did great for their 220k or so CCUs.

A Western AAA Open World RPG from a known franchise not even hitting 100K on launch weekend is not good at all.

 

[Lorianus]

Bioware is the ship of Theseus, is it still Bioware when every person who made it great is gone ?

 

[TrebleShot]

That's not good imo, this game is supposed to be big and its day 1 on PC.
Steam is now bigger than ever, imo for a big game anything less than 100k is bad.
Between 100k-250k is Alright
250k+ is good

I'd say the standards have shifted a little.

250k bare minimum for a title with cash like this behind it.

500k for "breakout hits" like helldivers 2.

 

[PeteBull]

Is there some secret effort going on to make sure this game's concurrent player numbers never surpasses BG3? lol

Nope, bioware simply alienated half of their potential customers so game is getting low numbers, both players and sales wise.

Logic would dictate game like new DA should be dark, gritty and all the woke stuff should be totally optional and not forced(just like in DA:I from 2014 which sold 12m copies), so series veterans get hyped to buy it, and yet, logic is not how those ppl like to operate on, instead they chose preaching to us like we are in HR office about to get the DEI training video.

Some players like it, some tolerated it and bend the knee(those that saying game is "ok", "fine", "avg" but still forking out 70usd/euro at launch , huge chunk decided to not support such behaviour, hence the terrible results

 

[StereoVsn]

Nope, bioware simply alienated half of their potential customers so game is getting low numbers, both players and sales wise.

Logic would dictate game like new DA should be dark, gritty and all the woke stuff should be totally optional and not forced(just like in DA:I from 2014 which sold 12m copies), so series veterans get hyped to buy it, and yet, logic is not how those ppl like to operate on, instead they chose preaching to us like we are in HR office about to get the DEI training video.

Some players like it, some tolerated it and bend the knee(those that saying game is "ok", "fine", "avg" but still forking out 70usd/euro at launch , huge chunk decided to not support such behaviour, hence the terrible results

Thing is with these numbers even if you want to check out the game, might as well wait a few months for patches and this will be like $30-40.

 

[ClosBSAS]

veilguard is so far off from being the dragon age game i wanted or should have been. inquisition was utter trash, 2 i understand EA wanted to capitalize on the success of the first one and they rushed it but it still has some good stuff in it. Veilguard is not terrible, its ok at most, the terrible art style and monster design is so far off form dragon age as well and the writing is the worst its ever been for a bioware game.

 

[PeteBull]

Thing is with these numbers even if you want to check out the game, might as well wait a few months for patches and this will be like $30-40.

Imho its not a problem of price, its 60$ on steam , in many countries even lower, some ppl posted screenie in this very thread with spreadsheet.

Can only say from my pov, back in 2014 i didnt need to wait for pricecut but was hyped for new western rpg(DA:I) and simply bought my ps4 copy right away, why would i wait and save 10-20 usd/euro after few months when i wanted to play the game right away- i saw trailers, knew its gonna be good, was a no brainer purchase.

This time tho... well, we all know how it looks this time, 0 hype, only annoyence

 

[RodriGames40]

The weekend's almost over and the game hasn't cracked 90k, yet there are people here still thinking the game "barely" or could have broke even... Industrial grade copium even after the fact.

 

[Conflict NZ]

Game is doing atrociously on the console achievement tracking sites, for however much that's worth. A comparison with Dragon Age Inquisition from Trueachievements and TrueTrophies

Xbox:
Inquisition: 288K (360 & One)
Veilguard: 8K

Playstation:
Inqusition 111K (PS3 & PS4)
Veilguard: 2K

I see a lot of people claiming that this heavily skews towards consoles.

 

[lmimmfn]

Take that chuds!

Oh wait....

Moving forward, tbh I'm going to do what I do with movies/TV shows:
1. Play/Watch things pre 2017
2. Only buy games/movies/boxsets post 2017 if I'm 100% sure there is no woke crap in the product.
3. Dont pre-order anything, because a products woke influence won't be visible until consumers react(not crappy access media)

That's what I'm doing moving forward, and I already have a huge steam backlog to attack, these woke companies won't get a cent from me