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Dragon Quest 7: Fragments of the Forgotten Past |OT| Roman numerals are hard
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You could also have situations where you realized you screwed up and it'd be easier to go to the old save. Learned that the hard way with Wild Arms.
Elaugaufein
Member
Shields show up too.
Teenage Riot
Neo Member
Did it play the traditional, absolutely terrifying Dragon Quest "save has been deleted" jingle?
I'ma take that part back cause I'm dumb an could've been misunderstanding what was being said. It'd be wrong for me ta mistakingly call peoples out. I think what was being said was that you're not meant to save frequently which is silly, but not specifically fussing about keeping backup saves! Howevers as for quick save, from that same thread:
Having to exit the game back to the 3DS menu then go back into the game adds another layer of crap over a bogged down saving system. The only time I'll use quick save is when I actually wanna turn off the game/system. Save & Continue is my way ta play, 'specially since sleep modes there ta use an abuse! Besides if the system screws up while quick saving I'd be in the same boat!
If ya rotate like that an the unfortunate happens you'll still have some lost progress. Well this is only the 2nd time the 3DS has borked out on me, an only the first time I'd lost save to it, so its not like I'm expecting or super wary of this kinda thing happening again. So I may just go the rotation route. May be alil paranoid about saving at that specific save point though >.>
After some looking around I think it was the system that messed up rather than the game. Which may be worse since it means it could happen to any 3DS game you're playing!
Nopenope. Just deafening silence and a momentary stopped heart upon starting the game up an getting that message!
Magicpaint
Member
Yep. Party chat is one of the most defining parts of the DQ experience for me. And it's completely up to me how much of it I want, and when. Really cool feature.
T.Slothrop
Member
This game is fantastic looking. Especially compared to the original. I'm generally not a fan of remakes, but this is something special. It feels so snappy. The original had fast battles but super sluggish over world trudging.
Love the faces. There's just so much life here. I feel really lucky to have gotten this. It's clear they put so much work in on this. Everyone needs to get this game.
Love the faces. There's just so much life here. I feel really lucky to have gotten this. It's clear they put so much work in on this. Everyone needs to get this game.
GodParticle
Member
The perspective changes when you enter an area from a different direction are really disorienting. The overworld map is also really annoying to traverse. Wish this thing had a camera. I promise, that's my last bitching session 
Edit...err, maybe there is a camera control. L/R? Turned it off before trying that
Edit...err, maybe there is a camera control. L/R? Turned it off before trying that
It's almost shocking how much characterization you can miss, but yeah great that it's not forced on you.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Yes, L/R is the camera control.The perspective changes when you enter an area from a different direction are really disorienting. The overworld map is also really annoying to traverse. Wish this thing had a camera. I promise, that's my last bitching session
Edit...err, maybe there is a camera control. L/R? Turned it off before trying that
GodParticle
Member
Ok, that solves a huge headache. I was trying the nub and figured it didn't have one >_<
Depends on your definition:
only Ruff will not leave the main character as I recall. But everyone you command BUT Kiefer will not be permanently gone.
Pressing both at the same time recenters the camera to btw! Also worked the same in the DS Dragon Quests!
goldenpp72
Member
Hey, I'm lost in a likely dumb place. I was in the fire place (second island) and now I'm looking for a lay about with a bottle of something. I assumed it would be that pire guy but can't find him. Any direction? I may ask for help at times, this is my first DQ game so in learning as I go.
I just don't want to waste stat boosts. Good that I know who not to use them on now.
Wha? When I was at that part I already had the needed item from him. Well places I'd think he could be is at his home in Estard, the bar there, or the hero's home in Pilchard.
Megalosaro
Banned
Main characters uncle. Gotta go to the present.
GodParticle
Member
Interesting. Can't believe I spent over an hour and never tried those buttons...
The town next to the first dungeon is named after a Scottish Childrens BBC Show (and uses Scots, though thankfully not that thick soup that was barely comprehensible to me, who is actually Scottish, they used in DQ 4) so I'd hedge my bets on it being an refrence.
This is a long shot but that might actauly be a swing at Tenchi Myou, one of the few anime to actfully air on our Toonami (before it went to shit) which pretty much went about hiding drinking in much the same way.
I finished Rexwood and Engow earlier. They are exactly how I remember them, besides some small details.
Mt. Flame took me a long time to clear. The tight corridors in the dungeon kept getting me into so many battles and unfortunately Maribel can't take very many hits.
What level were you guys when you completed Orph? I remember the boss there being somewhat challenging.
Edit: Oh right, I forgot they changed the names for those places. I'm so used to what they were called before.
Mt. Flame took me a long time to clear. The tight corridors in the dungeon kept getting me into so many battles and unfortunately Maribel can't take very many hits.
What level were you guys when you completed Orph? I remember the boss there being somewhat challenging.
Edit: Oh right, I forgot they changed the names for those places. I'm so used to what they were called before.
aww just beat the first island. my theory was so cool
doesn't everyone grind till they can buy all the new equipment every time they get to a new shop? i thought that was standard. i even extra grind afterwards to make sure i have a nice little nest egg for the next round.
Yeah, I used to play JRPGs that way, but I felt like it starting making the games too easy so now I just buy what I can afford and move on. If I'm really close to an item I really want, like 5 battles or less away, I'll grind out those battles, but basically 5 is my limit. Don't want to over level AND get good gear.
You should be, but I'm more confused by how you could have been torn between Style Savvy and DQ, haha. Completely different types of games.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
I just ended my first play session at the first town you reach after you start battling.
I've never played a Dragon Quest game before and so far I'm enjoying this a lot. My only concern at the moment is limited inventory space.
I've never played a Dragon Quest game before and so far I'm enjoying this a lot. My only concern at the moment is limited inventory space.
The re-used character models is super iritating and boring, but doesn't bother me tooo much. in the Automaton-storyline, tho, there is one example where it's kinda ridiclious.
Don't like that at all...
The fat Ambrose switching close with the soldier... WOOSH... what a thin man he is all of a sudden, huh?
Teriyaki Blues
Member
I thought that was hilarious, especially since his
son-in-law
Anyway, on for my obnoxious question: when CAN you use Quick Save? I've tried 4 times and the game just yells at me that Quick Save isn't an option!
I wish all RPGs would take a page from Mother 3 and have truly unique NPC sprites.
I've only been able to quicksave when in the map view, you can't use it in towns/dungeons
I have the feeling that this game is going to sell decently well. No real indications, just a hopeful feeling. I think the world is more ready for Dragon Quest these days. I'm sure it really helps that this remake looks much more modern and appealing in screenshots (I love the DS remakes, but the look is certainly not for everyone).
When I'm in the field, I usually just press up and steer with L and R.
In dungeons, I prefer the more subtle movement of the circle pad to go around corners and dodge monsters.
When I'm in the field, I usually just press up and steer with L and R.
In dungeons, I prefer the more subtle movement of the circle pad to go around corners and dodge monsters.
During that quest they even have the same model of a dude who is clearly dead at this point right next to each other three times. At first I thought he cloned himself to survive into the future.
Especially with that past and present stuff it's a bit confusing sometimes.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
So I just played through the whole PSX opening, and you guys are right. It actually seems impossible to die - I defended with all characters, and after just seven or so rounds, all the slimes had fled - it's not even set up as a "boss fight".
Going to the town, Matilda heals you when you hit 14HP on a character, so it's impossible to die - so it seems the game actually makes it impossible for you to die until you've reached the town and "seen" the church, and once you've been to the town you'll just wind up back there in the open air church when you die.
Also - and I had completely forgot this - just before the landshard rooms, there is a book that lets you save your game - and it's right in the middle of a corridor, pretty much impossible to miss. So I now have no idea what he was talking about. Kiefer seems to have too much HP for it to be possible for the slimes to kill you before they run away, and in every other fight before you reach town, you're "protected".
I'll be interested in the revised opening now that the original is fresh in my mind. There's certainly some stuff that is obviously and painlessly cut-able in the back-and-forth between the town, ruins, and the castle, but the ruins themselves are pretty fun.
Ballymolloy is Irish though, the innkeeper even says "top o'the mornin"
I got wiped for the first time against a tablet boss that one shotted everyone and I had to reset because the cost I had to pay to revive everyone wasn't worth it. You might not get a game over but right now dying is very punishing.
I wish there had been an easy way to know that I wasn't prepared to tackle that dungeon.
I wish there had been an easy way to know that I wasn't prepared to tackle that dungeon.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Was the English localisation for this done by a UK team or something? The accents, especially the Emberdale one which screams Yorkshire are making me believe so. Only a UK team would be able to make an in-joke like that, if it's alluding to what I think it is.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Very subtle reference to Emmerdale really sells it for me.
I knew I wasn't going crazy!
Yeah, reviving gets really expensive. Coupled with the fact that you lose half of your gold you might end up in a situation where you would have to grind solo just to afford getting your team back,running around with a tail of caskets in the meantime.
Teriyaki Blues
Member
Ah, thank you! People were offhandedly dropping hypothetical situations about "If you Quick Save right before the boss...", leading me to believe it was possible to use it indoors.
Alltrades Abbey unlocked! Already wasted a couple of hours taking Vocations. Need to make some actual progress again soon, because I miss having
a 4th party member.
Put your money in the bank.
RickFrick'n
Banned
I am LOVING this game! I had only done a single run through of the PS1 version a long time ago, and replaying the game on the 3DS is wonderful. Already in 10 hours deep, and i still feel like I'm just getting started! So, so happy this game was localised!
Oh, one funny thing I noticed: for anyone out there who finds any "single phial" items, the description reads "it heals a bit of HP," but it actually heals MP! sorry if it's been brought up already, haha. MP healing items are super valuable in DQ games, I find!
Oh, one funny thing I noticed: for anyone out there who finds any "single phial" items, the description reads "it heals a bit of HP," but it actually heals MP! sorry if it's been brought up already, haha. MP healing items are super valuable in DQ games, I find!
The concept of a tail of caskets sounds fun, even in tragedy there are some funny details.
I had less than 1000 gold so it wasn't a problem of losing money. Reviving people is expensive, what a business.
Ah, well swing and a miss for me I guess.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Oh god, please tell me they're not doing different accents for each major town again
And I say this as someone from the UK. Really didn't enjoy it with the DS releases.
As to your question, if its the same people who did the other DQ translations (and from what you say it sounds like it), then yes, they're from the UK.
http://www.plusalphatranslations.com/
I find this kind of hard to pick up in the mornings/when I get home for some reason, but when I do get to it, I find it even harder to put down. Like I just end up playing the game for hours on end.
Think I might actually wait on Cold Steel 2 a bit if I ever get my copy and maybe even finish DQ VII completely before starting it.
Are there really no other banks in the game than the one in the castle, though? I never end up using the money I've got deposited there cause I can never be arsed to run all the way back to the bank from the fragment cities lol
e: after 12 hours, I finally found my first mini medal. Wonder how many of these I've missed.
Think I might actually wait on Cold Steel 2 a bit if I ever get my copy and maybe even finish DQ VII completely before starting it.
Are there really no other banks in the game than the one in the castle, though? I never end up using the money I've got deposited there cause I can never be arsed to run all the way back to the bank from the fragment cities lol
e: after 12 hours, I finally found my first mini medal. Wonder how many of these I've missed.
So just to make sure, you can revisit bosses via that travelers tablet thing later on, right? Because some of these guys are hilarious and it would be a shame to only fight them once.
Really looking forward to the endgame / post game. DQ starts off so simplistic but then really gets quite intricate when the classes and skills unlock.
Really looking forward to the endgame / post game. DQ starts off so simplistic but then really gets quite intricate when the classes and skills unlock.
Teriyaki Blues
Member
There are banks in other locations, Alltrades Abbey and Estard are probably the most conveniently located ones in the Present that I've run into so far, thanks to Zoom. Traveling around in the Past is way too much of a hassle. I've finally started stashing some dosh myself, since most of the purchases I can make are sidegrades at best.
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