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Dragon's Crown |OT| Knock down the crown
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Onion_Relish
Member
Any tips on how to beat killer rabbit on infernal with elf? I've killed 7/9 infernal B path bosses solo, but i'm feeling like I just dont have the horsepower to kill the damn thing because so many of my arrows miss... Obviously I load up on the Salamander Oil and Poison extract but even then once i run out i just don't have the gas to make it work. I start the round off by whipping out a dagger and backstabbing the shit out of it but i have so few points in backstab it doesnt make much of a difference.
also why is deadly boots such a shit skill?
also why is deadly boots such a shit skill?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
No, I just addressed specific points from the reviews which I thought were myopic or flat-out stupid.
I haven't used the others, but since I switched from the default dude to the sorceress I haven't felt a need to, her voice is pretty good.
She cracks me up so much when she imitates the voices of male characters, such as lowering her voice to sound more male, or when she voices the old hermit with that crazy old man voice. It manages to sound cute and funny and over-the-top without being grating and just stupid, that certainly takes talent.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Kind of grating and try-hard. I use the Japanese voice on my amazon myself because even the "They're here!" and other in-game soundbytes were a bit annoying, she sounds so much nicer in Japanese.
Anyone knows what she says when it sounds like uh... "Kakatekinasai" or something? What does this mean? Haha.
It's kind of strange, I was really dreading this boss on Hard mode with my solo Amazon. I was just at the suggested level of 60 (I sometimes struggle against some bosses even when I'm slightly over the suggested level, so when I'm at the exact level or lower it's really hard) and then I proceeded to beat the crap out of him without losing a single life and using only one Small potion.
Yet the gazer, level 45, still kicked my ass. Go figure. I did stack all my best anti-draconic gear, but still, I was shocked at how much I slaughtered him. How do you get those respect potions? I'm almost done with Hard, I have all the talismans and ready to kill the last boss again, but I haven't encountered any such thing. Is it only through the LoC?
I use the salamander oil, then just jump and power shot. That's all you really need to do to kill it, the rabbit is weak to fire. Once you've gotten used to the angle of the shot it's not difficult.
They're in the LoC
Giolon
Member
I wasn't trying to start anything - it's just a viewpoint I found well articulated and refreshing after all the negative backlash against the art style without anyone trying to dig any further than "OMG boobs!" and lumping in all sexualization the same regardless of intention. You don't have to agree - but not everything has to be a fight.
Amnesia Elixirs are rewarded for floors 3, 6, and 9 of the Labyrinth of Chaos the first time you beat them with any character. Every time you clear floor 99 you apparently get one but at that point...do you really need them? (maybe to farm them for other characters)
AgentOtaku
Member
Those were just prototypes no announcement yet on the Elf and Amazon. Hopefully soon!
Chrono Helix
Member
It means something like "Bring it on!"
One part of the Vita version that bothers me is during the intro/title sequence--the dragon seems to be animated in a weird framerate. Is it the same in the PS3 version? (Trivial, I know.)
Guess it's been mentioned here before but the Sorceress VA is the same one who did Chie from P4G.
My main right now is the Sorceress so I'm using the Elf narrator for contrast. Will use the Sorceress narrator for my next character.
Guess it's been mentioned here before but the Sorceress VA is the same one who did Chie from P4G.
My main right now is the Sorceress so I'm using the Elf narrator for contrast. Will use the Sorceress narrator for my next character.
shiftplusone
Member
depends on if it+the rest show up in diamond's previews magazine in the import section
i get a discount through my comic shop for all that stuff
The_Joker1721
Member
I racked up some skill points. Don't know what to do with them. My level ain't high enough to level up some skills I want. hmmm. Using the Wizard and casting the storm is crazy awesome. I unlocked the meteor storm and I regret it immediately. Game is awesome so far.
New patch for the Japanese version : http://dragons-crown.com/info/2013/09/ps3psvita2.html
Bolded is so good.
Google Translate said:
Bolded is so good.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I love how much post-launch support Vanillaware is giving this game. They're really taking player feedback to heart and improving things. Really nice to see.
Liferebooted
Banned
Holy shit a company that listened and fixed online instead of ignoring it.
call_kotaku
Member
Parry increasing the berserk meter seems almost too good; Parry is already insanely useful (more useful than the Warrior's block, I'd argue), and now there'll never be any justification for using incite rage.
I don't really understand the neck splitter cancel change, though? It's already got a pretty fast startup, does it mean canceling the recovery animation? Might be cool but with the parry change there's no reason to jump unless the enemy can't be hit while grounded.
I don't really understand the neck splitter cancel change, though? It's already got a pretty fast startup, does it mean canceling the recovery animation? Might be cool but with the parry change there's no reason to jump unless the enemy can't be hit while grounded.
namethatno1uses from GameFAQs said:Hands-on:
- Online matchmaking has replaced options. Have no idea what they mean now... *sadface*
- New durability "line" under each gear in the start button equipment menu that shows how damaged equipment is. (at least that's what I think it is. It's full for everything I have)
- New triangle arrow on bottom of the screen is.. meh. Kind of annoying, it looks out of place.
On to the good stuff:
- MP "supercharge" has 3 stages. All of them have a blue aura, takes 2.5 seconds to reach full charge at max MP. Lasts 5 seconds. Gives a 30% damage bonus (wow) to wand spells AND spellbooks too!
- Size of spells grows much larger, at least double the size. I'm talking HUGE area effects here. Meteor FILLS THE ENTIRE *****-ing SCREEN.
- Slow has double the radius now. Without charging. Charge has seemingly no effect? Maybe it makes enemies slower...
- While the aura disappears while casting "big" spells (meteor), the damage and size bonus applies.
- Rapid fire "Snowflake" (Ice rod up+O) is... fills the screen... the damage.. oh my god... beautiful!
This super charge is Wizard-only. Sorry Sorceress!
I had my doubts about this update, but I'm speechless. And I thought Wizard was the 2nd best before this with the right gear, above Elf. No contest any more.
Haven't seen any radical changes to other classes.
EDIT: Forgot something. Multiplayer menu has a LoC option where you select a floor, and then wait for someone else to join. I thought it put you on a random floor with others, but no.
Still hard to find LoC players this way.
namethatno1uses from GameFAQs said:
Good, my Wizard wasn't already powerful enough ( ≖‿≖
And still not going to bother with neck splitter.
super-famicom
Member
What does the Elf's elemental lore skill do, exactly? I'm only level 25 right now, but have been pumping all my points into the arrow skills and boot skill.
CrazyTank940
Member
Larger area sorceress spells, network improvements, I can dig it.
Technoweirdo
Member
Still can't evade-cancel the Elf's standing charge shot de-draw? Bah. >.> Sometimes, I want to dodge downwards but pressing down while doing a charge shot enters her uncancellable de-draw animation instead, leading to me getting hit.
I am not a figure collector, but I want dat Elf. Also, that is a nice Velvet figure.
Does anyone know whether you need to have all of the talismans yourself to join someone else to fight the Ancient Dragon? I'd rather not have to grind all of the talismans again myself to get the Normal/Hard speed trophies.
Sanctuary
Member
Might actually make playing a Wizard worth it now over simply playing the superior class. It also makes it harder to give up the +20% on Concentrate (Sorceress stops at 30%, Wizard 50%). Problem is, you're really only gaining that additional damage for 2.5s (in the middle of a fight) since you have to charge it for 2.5 as well. And it looks like that's on top of already having to charge to full mana first. In terms of wand spam, it's not really enough of a change to matter.
For precasting a single spell, in conjunction with the +%damage increase if spell is repeated (works also when you start to cast a book spell, but cancel before it happens and you can do this up to ten times for a 30% - 50% increase in damage) it may have an impact.
Typical internet hyperbole. If anything, all this does is improves Slow. The damage change won't affect much for the class.
-Amon-
Member
Aaaand done.
Holy Shit this game is pretty ! I've watched tons of vids about it but nothing beats this thing on Vita's oled, not even Muramasa Rebirth i guess.
Weltall Zero
Member
Lovely news about the patch, even though I won't benefit from arguably the biggest change since all of my characters have unlocked online (and IIRC Talismans did drop for all characters in a party). Eager to see the Wizard change in person. Berserk on Parry is also awesome.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
The P2 story progress thing is awesomely good if true. Please let it be true. I might actually resume playing with my boyfriend now.
Yesterday I played with the wizard a bit. Man I suck with it, I find it so hard to manage my MP, I run out so fast. I try to time my recharges + hitting with the wandto regain mp as fast I can but it's annoying when a thief arrives to steal your treasure, you're surrounded by enemies and are low on MP, argh. I think I've had him run away with my treasure like twice now. xD
I have some questions about wands:
- Is the attack rating worth anything except the hits with square button, or do they affect your magic's attack power too? Since those are invariably crap, I tend to look at the staff's elemental attributes (ice, fire or thunder) or properties (MP+x, MP recharge, etc.) a lot more than the AR, but I don't know if that's such a good idea.
- Is it just me or are the ice wands so much better? Freezing enemies is very nice and the tornado attack is pretty useful. Lightning rods have been disappointing me so far. I see the down+circle attack (IIRC) can sometimes stun enemies but overall I "feel" weaker using those lightning wands. Am I doing it wrong?
- I have the extra item in my bag, but I have to wait until level 30 to get the next one, so I only ever carry two spells + a potion. I'm not good enough to consistently not need potions against bosses (depends on the bosses of course), but it kind of limits my spell repertoire... and I'd rather not sacrifice an inventory slot. I try to change my spells from bag to bag, I have one with Blaze and Storm, another with Blaze and Slow, another with Storm and Slow (I haven't learned any other spells yet) and try to pick a bag accordingly to the level/boss I'll face. Good/bad idea? I'll really struggle without potions, but maybe I should just practice more...? :\
Guess wizard is just too advanced for me. ^^ Still, I'll persevere! I'm improving and feel more powerful with the new skills I get. I mean I almost struggled against the harpy lol (I was going fully solo), fumbling with recharges and badly aiming my spells, but I'm getting less terrible. Still, I've a long way to go, I played with randoms online who main the wizard and boy they're good at juggling all of that.
Then again I know there are worse players than me ^^. I was playing with a friend yesterday (online), he's using the elf and he's very new to the game, he just got it and we dove in as soon as he unlocked online. He had no idea about any runes (only ever used the golem one), thought food was shared so always grabbed all the pieces until I told him to leave some for the others, didn't know how to use the hotkeys on items, and worse of all... he didn't level up any bow skill (we're about level 25) and uses kicks and melee attacks all the time (because he "likes that kind of fast aggressive playstyle") and almost never uses the bow, so if I sit back and quietly just activate rune while he fights, he takes forever to kill small goblins... xD I told him the Amazon might be more suited to his playstyle, and he said he'd try her eventually. I hope he does because his elf is super-weak and almost of no help to me haha.
Edit: though to his credit, he did say that he had managed to somehow juggle/stunlock the Gazer by spamming some sort of downward kick on it constantly... but he didn't succeed at doing it again when we fought him together this time. Oh, speaking of the infuriating Gazer (I swear he's the worst boss for me), why does he keep silencing my wizard? ;_; Arrrrrgh, come on, way to cripple entire classes for that boss fight, geez! That boss was a nightmare with a solo wizard...
Yesterday I played with the wizard a bit. Man I suck with it, I find it so hard to manage my MP, I run out so fast. I try to time my recharges + hitting with the wandto regain mp as fast I can but it's annoying when a thief arrives to steal your treasure, you're surrounded by enemies and are low on MP, argh. I think I've had him run away with my treasure like twice now. xD
I have some questions about wands:
- Is the attack rating worth anything except the hits with square button, or do they affect your magic's attack power too? Since those are invariably crap, I tend to look at the staff's elemental attributes (ice, fire or thunder) or properties (MP+x, MP recharge, etc.) a lot more than the AR, but I don't know if that's such a good idea.
- Is it just me or are the ice wands so much better? Freezing enemies is very nice and the tornado attack is pretty useful. Lightning rods have been disappointing me so far. I see the down+circle attack (IIRC) can sometimes stun enemies but overall I "feel" weaker using those lightning wands. Am I doing it wrong?
- I have the extra item in my bag, but I have to wait until level 30 to get the next one, so I only ever carry two spells + a potion. I'm not good enough to consistently not need potions against bosses (depends on the bosses of course), but it kind of limits my spell repertoire... and I'd rather not sacrifice an inventory slot. I try to change my spells from bag to bag, I have one with Blaze and Storm, another with Blaze and Slow, another with Storm and Slow (I haven't learned any other spells yet) and try to pick a bag accordingly to the level/boss I'll face. Good/bad idea? I'll really struggle without potions, but maybe I should just practice more...? :\
Guess wizard is just too advanced for me. ^^ Still, I'll persevere! I'm improving and feel more powerful with the new skills I get. I mean I almost struggled against the harpy lol (I was going fully solo), fumbling with recharges and badly aiming my spells, but I'm getting less terrible. Still, I've a long way to go, I played with randoms online who main the wizard and boy they're good at juggling all of that.
Then again I know there are worse players than me ^^. I was playing with a friend yesterday (online), he's using the elf and he's very new to the game, he just got it and we dove in as soon as he unlocked online. He had no idea about any runes (only ever used the golem one), thought food was shared so always grabbed all the pieces until I told him to leave some for the others, didn't know how to use the hotkeys on items, and worse of all... he didn't level up any bow skill (we're about level 25) and uses kicks and melee attacks all the time (because he "likes that kind of fast aggressive playstyle") and almost never uses the bow, so if I sit back and quietly just activate rune while he fights, he takes forever to kill small goblins... xD I told him the Amazon might be more suited to his playstyle, and he said he'd try her eventually. I hope he does because his elf is super-weak and almost of no help to me haha.
Edit: though to his credit, he did say that he had managed to somehow juggle/stunlock the Gazer by spamming some sort of downward kick on it constantly... but he didn't succeed at doing it again when we fought him together this time. Oh, speaking of the infuriating Gazer (I swear he's the worst boss for me), why does he keep silencing my wizard? ;_; Arrrrrgh, come on, way to cripple entire classes for that boss fight, geez! That boss was a nightmare with a solo wizard...
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
The problem wasn't for online, but offline coop. P2 didn't get the runes, the extra bags, the talismans, hard mode unlocks, etc.
Sanctuary
Member
It won't. The change isn't going to really do much of anything for the Wizard.
The Slow "buff" also seems to be inaccurate. Others have tested it and said that there's not been any change to it. Sorceress is still the master race.
Lvl 65 btw, and it's just now starting to get hard. Red Dragon can kill me in a single tail smash (even though the shockwave doesn't look like it's anywhere near me), and the Arch Demon can actually sometimes get a lucky juggle combo followed by a homing teleport grab to take off a single life.
I also really freaking hate the Minotaur now. It's one of my least favorite encounters, especially the sub boss that is in a small room. 90% of the time the goddamn thing is off screen where you can't hit it. It's also another example of where having two wands is better than wand + belt, because you can use a Fire wand to immolate it. I haven't really done any kind of extensive testing on how much of a boost the WWF belt gives, but it seems like it's only +2 damage per floor for your basic wand shots (you can get off 8 - 10 shots a second though). Not sure what it does for the other abilities yet, nor do I know exactly how much of a boost it gives to your overall defenses.
weirdingway
Banned
Doesn't really feel like patch notes with something so important being so vague
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I don't think the patch is out in NA yet. Unless you're playing the Japanese version.
Sanctuary
Member
Yes, local you can do close to the start of the game. I think you still have to do the initial dungeon though to reach the point where you can pick allies (which would be the second player).
Giolon
Member
Ice wand really is beastly. I'm sorry I can't really answer your other questions. However, on my Sorceress, I take 5 spells and only wear 1-2 pieces of gear but 1 of my spells is Create Food in lieu of a potion.
Naked Lunch
Member
How does online co-op work with this game? I have 3 relatives who live in the same house I want to play with online. Can they hop into my online game and play 3 player local co-op on their machine?
Thomasorus
Member
Yes they can. I played in local with my girlfriend and we joined a friend on the web.
crimsonspider89
Banned
You want either the ice wand or lighting staff/wand. The fire is worthless. Lightning gives you the summon from lightning aerial attack which combined with the aerial dodge cancel allows you to wipe fields.
Giolon
Member
Yep. That works. However, only "Player 1" on a given machine gets quest/story progress until this latest patch from Japan makes it way to the rest of the world.
Naked Lunch
Member
Thanks! Any word on a timeframe for this patch?
Giolon
Member
No word, but I believe the last one lagged by 2 and a half weeks compared to the Japanese patch but the US version of the game was launched 1 day before that period.
Also, for whatever reason, Atlus was contractually obligated to NOT tell us if or when we were getting that patch, so I'd expect the same treatment for this one, i.e. silence.
Karsticles
Member
What happens if you do offline co-op right now and one character is really far behind? Does doing one quest catch him/her up?
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