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Dragon's Crown |OT| Knock down the crown
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KDash31987
Member
10~20 hours per character. The time seems to vary quite a bit from person to person. Most times I've seen are usually 15~20 hours, but some seem to have finished it in around 10.
Uhh...Tuesday?
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Thanks, Cyan. Please don't close this thread!
Thanks. I'm definitely going to make a ninja elf (at some point, probably my second character).
I read somewhere (maybe Co-Optimus) that when you load the game up, where you are in the story is based on which character is Player 1 but all other characters will have their progress saved as long as they were up to that point. Bullet point examples:
- Alice is a new character; Bob is on stage 5. Player 1 picks Alice, Player 2 picks Bob. The story starts at the beginning (because Player 1 is a new character). If they play all the way through stage 9 (and unlock co-op), then this progress is saved for both Alice and Bob.
- Alice is a new character; Bob is on stage 5. Player 1 picks Bob, Player 2 picks Alice. The story starts at stage 5 (because Player 1 is Bob). If they play all the way through stage 9 (and unlock co-op), then this progress is only saved for Bob (Alice will keep the experience and loot, but she cannot progress the story by skipping chapters).
- Alice and Bob are new characters. Player 1 picks Alice, Player 2 picks Bob. They start at the beginning and co-op together all the way through the end. Online is unlocked for both characters after stage 9, and Hard is unlocked for both characters after beating Normal. They only get the "win the game as X" trophy for Alice's class, but can replay the final boss with Bob as Player 1 to get Bob's class trophy.
- Carol is a new character. Alice and Bob are level 99 avatars of destruction. Player 1 picks Carol, Players 2 and 3 pick Alice and Bob. Since Player 1's character is in Normal, Alice and Bob are scaled down to level 35 (the level cap for Normal).
vitiosuslepos
Neo Member
There's no difference in detail between the PS3 and Vita versions. The only difference I'm seeing is frame rate (which I haven't noticed too much). But, I have horrible eyes and don't notice dropped frames like some people do.
I think Slasher's review (linked in the OP) includes him holding the Vita up to the camera to show it off. Is that what you meant?
I think the Vita version wins out, since you can open chests and pick up loot using the touch screen, but that's just me.
vitiosuslepos
Neo Member
I imagine that would be the fastest way to bypass unlocking via local multiplayer. I'm only speaking from a single-player perspective with online multiplayer. I'll play around with it more tonight and see if I'm wrong, but from what I've experienced, starting new characters restarts the single player mode for that character.
Yeah I saw it and it looked ok.
It really comes down to visual quality since frame drops aren't a issue and I think I could deal with right stick action.
currently have a ps3 preorder in place.
Oh well I waver until it's "too late" lol
NoirVisage
Banned
Knight and If the AI companion thing is in, I'm running with an Amazon all day erry day. Team Hometown fer always.
word *pours out some sunny D to the fallen*
I hope from now on all polygon threads are closed early, they thrive on the negative attention, and they know how and where to get it from,
lets not feed into it any longer.
YouTube? There must be a video from a capture Vita somewhere.
The interview that was posted on the blog yesterday had some Vita screen footage. It looks godly.
EDIT: Here you go.
EDIT: Here you go.
Gintoki313
Banned
Thanks I've been looking for this. I've also just noticed that this is your album. Nice job, it looks great.
Yeah, you definitely have to unlock online with every character, but at least for anyone doing couch co-op they don't have to worry about having to replay everything.
As for the "unlocking multiplayer" but, I think the bit ponpo quoted two pages ago is spot on:
Pros and cons, really. There's a definite plus to knowing that everyone you play with will know how to play their character, but it's a definite negative in that you can't play with friends until you unlock it. Then again, it's a plus that you can't have your overpowered friends just curbstomp all your tutorial bosses for you so you don't need to learn anything.
If it had been up to me, I'd have had the game distinguish between Friends and Randoms and let you play with friends from the very beginning-- not let you skip the tutorial and join friends on B-path missions, but let you at least bring your friends into the tutorial A-path missions with you. But I don't work at Atlus so, like a goose once said, I literally have no idea what I'm talking about.
vitiosuslepos
Neo Member
Yep yep yep.
When I wanted to make actual story progress, I turned multiplayer off. Playing online screwed me out of two talismans based on other players either dragging me through a door, or not focusing/helping me complete the timed objective.
Boss fights in the second half of the game have stages. Beating it in the first stage unlocks the item you need to finish the story. But, a lot of people I met online were either already finished or just doing loot runs.
Action does get ridiculous, and I constantly lost track of where I was on screen when players started going crazy with the magic and summoning.
But I attribute losing my place on screen more to my poor vision than a horrible fault with Dragon's Crown.
When I wanted to make actual story progress, I turned multiplayer off. Playing online screwed me out of two talismans based on other players either dragging me through a door, or not focusing/helping me complete the timed objective.
Boss fights in the second half of the game have stages. Beating it in the first stage unlocks the item you need to finish the story. But, a lot of people I met online were either already finished or just doing loot runs.
Action does get ridiculous, and I constantly lost track of where I was on screen when players started going crazy with the magic and summoning.
But I attribute losing my place on screen more to my poor vision than a horrible fault with Dragon's Crown.
Deified Data
Banned
Dwarf x Elf is my OTP.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh
dammit.
It does look awesome.
fuck it going Vita buying TOX on the ps3
yeah.
There are people who don't mind a frame rate dip, and there are people who are seriously pissed off when games drop below 120fps at max setting. "Frame drops aren't an issue" is really at the mercy of the subject's prejudice.
For me, the bigger screen is where it's at. (Not having a Vita had little to do with this decision.)
Is online all-or-nothing? Like, if you open it up to friends then it opens to randoms as well? The idea of people rushing through doors, etc, makes me think I'll just keep it off and stick with 2-player local only.
SO and I already have our ad-hoc co-op runs planned out.
Sorceress and Amazon.
Dwarf and Elf.
Fighter and Wizard.
I hope that by splitting up the ranged classes, we won't come across the "loss of character" problem.
Can we just avoid using certain spells, or are they pretty essential?
Sorceress and Amazon.
Dwarf and Elf.
Fighter and Wizard.
I hope that by splitting up the ranged classes, we won't come across the "loss of character" problem.
Can we just avoid using certain spells, or are they pretty essential?
vitiosuslepos
Neo Member
You do have the option to add friends. Mind you, I was playing pre-release where only other journalists and Japanese players were online. I play in the middle of the night so I was playing mostly with Japanese randoms. I think...ALL Japanese randoms.
Karsticles
Member
Those are the splits I was thinking of doing. :-O
They're good splits! We had to fight over who gets who though. ;-)
Day One Digital release on Tuesday, but you gotta preorder to get the artbook. Just preorder, man. Have you SEEN the art?
vitiosuslepos
Neo Member
The Rule: pre-order all Atlus games. Even if you don't pick it up. Pre-order it anyway.
Pimpbaa
Member
I've always wanted to touch chests with the touch screen.
startyourengine
Member
lol
Deified Data
Banned
Wish there was a sweet Cleric-class character.
Right stick is used for controlling your companion (collecting loot), so apparently not.
Both dpad and left stick are used too-- one for movement, the other for selecting inventory stuff.
From what I understand literally the first difficulty/run through is quite easy (as in no need for godlike gear) so you'll be OK.
The hardest thing that we're all gonna have to get used to when we start playing is understanding where our character is on the 3D space and whether or not we're actually attacking an enemy on the same plane.
I already know that's going to be a bitch to get used to right off the bat--but should be able to get used to quite quickly.
From what I am hearing, the first few stages serve that purpose really well. You will be fine. Nice avatar, btw.
Thank you both. That's good to hear!
To ironcreed: thanks for the compliment. It's one of my favorite pieces of Sorceress art.
Duh.
Karsticles
Member
I just found a King's Sword of Haste +200%.
Speaking of which, does anyone know if there's trading in this game? I'm kind of a min-maxer when it comes to loot games.
I'm assuming there's no trade window type things or anything like that, but I wonder if you can drop a piece on the ground for a friend to pick up or something.
That might fall into chatting. If interest warrants, I could make a Skype group chat or something.
SilverBaron
Neo Member
This may be a stupid question but anybody know if they plan on releasing DLC later? Like new classes or levels or whatevs?
weirdingway
Banned
Can anyone show me what loot is like in this game? All I've seen in the OT is some standard stats but is that all loot will be? Stat sticks? No special procs or properties? Are there skill trees?
All we know at the moment is voice DLC where you can change the voice over of the narration to one of the 6 characters, which'll be free at launch for about a month, then will cost $2.
I don't think there's any kind of trading, but all loot is shared on your own account (so other characters you make can still use it).
They're going to move this thread to Community anyway (on or around September 6), so I don't think posting loot will be a bad thing. I'd just suggest that we don't just list our new drops, but that we discuss them. Like, don't just say "I got an ogre-slaying knife! It's +9 against ogres!" without also saying "This will be really good in the ogre level, but Orcrist will generally be more useful."
They haven't announced any DLC other than the voice packs. It's not a stupid question at all, because I'd certainly be hyped for DLC "modules" introducing like 2 new stage types and new story.
Although, I think a few people would be happy if they released Japanese voice packs here. It would probably take a kickstarter or something to be sure they can cover the licensing costs, though.
Weapons will have special procs and stuff, and each class does have their own skills (not trees, just skills) to put points into. There's nothing in the OT at the moment due to lack of translation, but if you can read Japanese or Google-Translatese, there's always the 4gamer wiki (link to weapon effects page)
Good plan. "You're not there, you're getting drunk!"
Pfft I'm gonna post loot anyways.
It's about the game so I think we're cool.
I wanna see screenshots/pics though of that loot. I can't trust you guys! (especially if you have better lewtz than me)
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