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Dragon's Crown |OT| Knock down the crown
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cleveridea
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The game looks well justified being $50 to me.
Before reviews came out, I thought it looked like an XBLA game that wouldnt have a lot of gameplay hours/depth. After reading mostly good reviews, its clear they packed a lot of variation and depth into the game so that a single play through can be 15-20 hours and if you want to play all the classes, you can get over 100 hours.
So this amount of gameplay depth (eg detailed skill tree with custom builds being possible per class) combined with beautiful art, means it looks like it justifies the price easily.
Before reviews came out, I thought it looked like an XBLA game that wouldnt have a lot of gameplay hours/depth. After reading mostly good reviews, its clear they packed a lot of variation and depth into the game so that a single play through can be 15-20 hours and if you want to play all the classes, you can get over 100 hours.
So this amount of gameplay depth (eg detailed skill tree with custom builds being possible per class) combined with beautiful art, means it looks like it justifies the price easily.
UpperCaseN
Member
What? Why? Did they give a reason?
That really sucks. Now I'm worried they are going to to the same thing to me.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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IGN says the game is virtually identical. Only minor difference is performance issues where the Vita struggles a bit when a lot is going on and a few online differences.
You know when they say struggles a bit when a lot is going on...anyone heard more clarification on that?
How often is that a lot is going on (enough for it to struggle). Every engagement?
FrostuTheNinja
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I preordered from Amazon on the 1st of this month and my scheduled delivery is on Tuesday.
We'll see...
We'll see...
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Just framerate issues, slowdowns.
I get that, but how often?
Only on bosses...every time 4 enemies are on the screen... does it become frustrating/ affects playability or are the drops very minor...
would appreciate if anyone has more info on that, not going to get it on ps3 but I won't bother with it at all if playing it is frustrating...they say when a lot is going on, but from watching the videos...a lot is going on in most engagements
hate these reviewers that can't really spot performance trouble so report it vaguely. I assume it isn't that frustrating due to how it's being reported but you never know, sometimes they just have no clue or don't want to hurt feelings
Young Magus
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Pre-ordered this and Xilla earlier this week. Still have not shipped :'(
Weltall Zero
Member
Ah, speaking of brandish, how does it work? The wiki wasn't clear whether it's back-forward + mash attack, or you have to mash back and forward too. Also, does it keep going on and on as long as you keep mashing?
Chrono Helix
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I'm guessing the different input methods between the PS3 and Vita for controlling Rannie caused problems.
base shagohod
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Is a hireling an AI main character? And do they cost money or something?
Cosmic Forge
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Me too. Shadow over Mystara is only barely keeping me sane at this point.
That's fair. We all have our own values on time and money. Personally, I have quite a few people's "best games of all times!!!" on my list of games I'll wait to be $5 on a Steam sale, but DraCro is a day 1 title for me.
I don't have it, so I can't say for sure, but it's been talked about from time to time in this thread and in the "Impressions and Elf" thread so my understanding is that, at higher levels of play, when you have like 15 characters on screen (incl. monsters) and the Wizard and Sorceress are blasting the hell out of everything with screen-wide special effects and everything's just flying all over the place-- that it can drop noticeably. I've heard people say is "it dips" or "it slows down," but I haven't heard anyone say "Odin Sphere all over again."
Problem is, it's subjective. It might be fine for you, or, if you burst a blood vessel when a game drops below 120fps, Vita might not be for you.
The thief, Rannie? He's a main character, always with you. I haven't heard anyone say he costs money, so I'd assume not.
RoninChaos
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When was it 30? What version?
base shagohod
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Nah, I meant the hireling that maomaoIYP said he needed to get past a difficult section.
Back in 2012 when Ignition "had it".
Both versions were 30. They cancelled all orders but I just emailed a couple days ago asking if they'd honor it anyway and gave my original order number.
LOL, okay thanks, that's quite helpful. I assume it's somewhere inbetween but I suppose it should be okay with the gameplay. Might make it a bit hard to focus in the beginning but if it's at high level play mostly then I'd be okay.
Can't wait to get a 120fps monitor (and pc for it lol).
valentine71
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Before i get to play this, i just thought that this would be a decent beat em up(never read previews etc) and thought wtf when there were talk about boobs in this game. But i am so happy that i bought it. So deep, looks incredible, fun and has that retro feel while looks and controls modern. Awesome game. Best of this year after The Last of Us imo.
I'd think the systems would just send where you "clicked" Rannie to go, a chest or whatever. And who cares of you touched to send that "click" or whatever.
Shrug.
twentytwo22
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It's NOTHING like that. That slowdown was awful. But when you get 4 characters on the screen with 5+ enemies, especially when magic is being cast, there is some slowdown.
Having played ~20 hours on the Vita version and ~4 hours on the PS3 version, I prefer the Vita version due to the touchscreen for opening doors/chests and rune combinations. PS3 version is good though.
In the "if it were up to me" school of game design, I'd have PS3 + Vita crossplayable with characters tied to accounts (similar to how on LBP2 you need to log in each character locally) with the ideal play being 3 PS3 local + 1 character on the same couch on Vita to manage runes and Rannie. Maybe they'll make DraCro2 and go that route.
In the "for people who already have the game" discussion, how does the Sorceress's necromancy work? Can you only animate skeletons whenever you find bones that could be resurrected, or are there other opportunities?
When you're choosing NPCs to bring along, is it only the characters you've unlocked through resurrection and multiplayer, or can you bring your secondary characters as AI-controlled? That is, if I play through Normal as a Fighter, then I decide to play again as a Dwarf, can I have my Fighter be controlled by the AI?
In the "for people who already have the game" discussion, how does the Sorceress's necromancy work? Can you only animate skeletons whenever you find bones that could be resurrected, or are there other opportunities?
When you're choosing NPCs to bring along, is it only the characters you've unlocked through resurrection and multiplayer, or can you bring your secondary characters as AI-controlled? That is, if I play through Normal as a Fighter, then I decide to play again as a Dwarf, can I have my Fighter be controlled by the AI?
Caelestis
Member
I just got the same cancellation e-mail. I wonder if they're only doing it with $10 off orders as I had that, too. :/
Says unable to fulfill the order. I bet if I talk to them they are going to say "the preorder says Ignition Dragon's Crown" where as the final product is actually Atlus. Total BS. I'm never going to buy from Newegg again.
That's my guess :-/
Thanks, glad it isn't as bad because I thought that was game breaking for Code of Princess. I guess I'll see myself when it comes.
Weltall Zero
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Interesting questions, would want answers as well. Also, I've noticed that the Wizard has the ability to turn chests into mimics (which I would guess destroys the contents of the chest?), but in videos I've also seen he can turn wooden barricades into treants. Any other such cool tricks he has on his sleeves?
Theyll ship out Monday with overnight delivery.
CrazyTank940
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I'm curious to an answer for this as well personally
Cool thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if it worked that way. Never pre ordered something from them before.
Freezasaurus
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Called my Gamestop to see if they were doing a midnight release for this and Xillia. Nope. Not enough pre-orders. All anyone wants to play anymore are shooters. 
That and GameStop hates any portable game that's not Pokemon.Called my Gamestop to see if they were doing a midnight release for this and Xillia. Nope. Not enough pre-orders. All anyone wants to play anymore are shooters.
Called my Gamestop to see if they were doing a midnight release for this and Xillia. Nope. Not enough pre-orders. All anyone wants to play anymore are shooters.
Doesn't surprise me one bit. It has to be a AAA game to get a midnight. I don't think the last Pokemon even got a midnight at the GSs around me.
Kaori's Babydaddy
Banned
Called my Gamestop to see if they were doing a midnight release for this and Xillia. Nope. Not enough pre-orders. All anyone wants to play anymore are shooters.
Don't fuck with Gamestop anyway bruh.
http://www.polygon.com/game/dragon-s-crown/9102
Has anyone on here seen the Polygon review of this yet? 6.5? It wasn't put up in the list of reviews in the first OT post. I'm curious if this warrants a separate thread.
Has anyone on here seen the Polygon review of this yet? 6.5? It wasn't put up in the list of reviews in the first OT post. I'm curious if this warrants a separate thread.
It got a separate thread, and what ensued was a GIANT shitstorm. It doesn't need more discussion.
There was a separate thread for the reviews. And yeah, the polygon review was quite controversial to say the least.
It WAS going to be a day 1 title for me, too...
...but then it turned out to be a day -2 title. Ah, Mom & Pops. Got the last one, too.
There was a review thread with it and was closed down cause it ended up being the standard dance and song.
Northeastmonk
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Is it because modern game journalist don't know how to review JRPGS? They aren't shooters guys. lol
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