Dusktildawn48
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So it's like dragon age minus controlling n pc characters? How difficult is it?
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen PC |OT| Wolves hunt in 4K
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Cannon Goose
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Any tips for the first Undead Dragon (I think that's what it's called) you come across in BBI? I am getting absolutely destroyed. I have Dire Gouge which works well if I can actually position myself over the heart, but the grab is weird and it'll often just latch onto one of the legs instead.
LurkerPrime
Member
No direct NPC controls; the Pawn system is it's own unique beast. It's also more active than Dragon Age, and the beginning is more ruthless. If you're not paying attention you will die and things will go bad.
But after a while you'll figure things out and gain enough power that only post-game stuff will become a serious challenge.
One huge difference between DA and DD is that the former is much more focused on dialog-based roleplaying. DD bothers with very little of that (with the protagonist all but voiceless), though there are some differences in how the game plays out.
Dusktildawn48
Member
Just one more question. Is it as difficult as dark souls?
If you're having way too much trouble you can always run away. If you're not carrying anything to buff your attack it'll take while to kill, even with attack ratings of 2500+.
The strategy for it is the same as most other dragons. Attack the heart, knock it out of the sky if it flies into the air for bonus damage.
LurkerPrime
Member
They're two very different games.
As mentioned DD, starts pretty tough but it's never anywhere close to Dark Souls tough. They both do share a love for letting players discover things on their own, though; the pawn system plays a big part in this.
Awesome, the game crushes everytime I equip cursed king belt.
is this happening to anyone else?
edit: i'm not the only one it seems
https://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/451850849194697453/
is this happening to anyone else?
edit: i'm not the only one it seems
https://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/451850849194697453/
Magic Archer or strider gets a passive ability to increase FOV too
Khilandros
Member
Good news, it is getting fixed
https://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/451851477874682225/#c451851477876006133
"wbacon [capcom] [developer] 22 Jan @ 9:19pm
This will be fixed in an upcoming patch
"It's funny, I totally think the decisions you make about your character early on in either game are going to determine which feels more difficult right up front. They're incredibly different though. Dragon's Dogma almost feels like a version of Dark Souls you'd find in an arcade. It doesn't have that like completely hopeless sense of dread and panic and helplessness at all times, your character is a much more capable asskicker from the get-go (not that there aren't tense and scary moments, especially re: nighttime, but there of course is another big difference from Dark Souls).
LurkerPrime
Member
Post your Steam ID and/or join the DDDA GAF Steam Group and go on a friending spree if you want the best chances at your pawn being hired.
And as far as using a friend's pawns, just go to a rift stone and filter by Steam friends.
In DDDA you have a lot more control over how you encounter and fight enemies. It's very possible to just limp through all but the hardest enemy encounters with the right strategies. Especially with the right pawns--or knowledgeable/hig-level pawns--as allies.
But yeah, your starting vocation will influence a lot, even though you can easily change vocations early in the game. They all have a very distinct feel.
Cannon Goose
Member
Beat it, turns out I was massively overthinking it and all I had to do was stand under the heart and press X a bunch.
It Dragonforged both my weapons, two pieces of armour and my cape! I'm definitely glad I didn't run away.
Revolutionary
Member
Did you transfer your game save from console?
Alright, I finally finished the Everfall stuff and got the actual ending of the game and, wow what a bunch of god damned nonsense that was.
In NG+ now. How do people get levels in this game after a point? I'm like 70-something now and I want to max out so I don't get rekt in BBI.
In NG+ now. How do people get levels in this game after a point? I'm like 70-something now and I want to max out so I don't get rekt in BBI.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Go to BBI, you'll level quickly there.
It doesn't curbstomp you all the time, just when the new beasties show up.
Jesus. Walking to the other side of the map, I ran into two cyclopses and a chimera, sure that I would die. Somehow, we made it past all of it despite everybody dying several times. After each I went, "Okay, that's gotta be it." Nope.
This game is great. Playing strider has been excellent. I think the fast travel system has made it a little easier than many people say it actually is, but I've also been using pawns a few levels above me (just hit level 23, haven't really done any plot since the first big quest in the capital)
This game is great. Playing strider has been excellent. I think the fast travel system has made it a little easier than many people say it actually is, but I've also been using pawns a few levels above me (just hit level 23, haven't really done any plot since the first big quest in the capital)
toastyToast
Member
There's plenty of stuff that can reck you in BBI but they're mostly optional. The bosses required for progression aren't very hard at all.
On top of that the minimum quality of gear you find in there is better than the best stuff in the main game.
toastyToast
Member
Yup. Follow the purple circles. All you need from that area is the void key up the top.
Alright awesome. Going to intersperse my NG+ with trips into BBI to keep it fresh. Something oddly demeaning about starting a NG+ and getting quests to kill rats and pelicans and shit. I also really miss there being dragons and stuff out in the world. I wish that happened sooner and before the world got all messed up.
Good news, it is getting fixed
https://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/451851477874682225/#c451851477876006133
"wbacon [capcom] [developer] 22 Jan @ 9:19pm
This will be fixed in an upcoming patch
Good to know
I liked the way all of that happened as a single large shift instead of something gradual, but I would have liked it if they gave you more to do in the post-dragon world aside from exploring to find the new monster spawns and going through the Everfall/Bitterblack.
It's a shame all of the sidequests were clustered around the beginning of the game, instead of after the point where the world actually starts to approach being interesting.
Mad Season
Banned
how far do you move the slider to achieve roughly 85 FOV?
Is there an easy way to get Ferrystones? I've planted one of the fast trav crystals just outside Gran Soren, but so far I've only come across a single ferrystone (and only a single one of the fast travel crystals). I'm starting to find walking back and forth between the Gran Soren area and the encampment area to be a bit cumbersome.
Access your storage from the Gran Soren Inn and grab your eternal ferrystone, which works endlessly.
Tart Toter 9k
Member
Check your storage, You should have gotten an eternal ferrystone that has unlimited uses.
Yeah the game definitely could have used more direction in spots. Friend who gifted me the game was telling me about all the stuff I missed because the game does kind of bad job telling you where to go at times, like apparently there is a followup to the knight lady after she gets rekt in her duel with French Guy but it was in the Abbey, which is a place I saw once pretty early in the game then was given no real reason to return to. Post-dragon I hit all the major dungeons and found some new monster spawns, but I was told to do that by players, not the game. If I had listened to the game I would have spent an hour or two in Everfall, gotten my 20 wakestones and just been done with it.
It's cool that the game rewards you choosing to explore it rather than being handheld, which is nice for repeated and extended replays, but I think they really could have done a Skyrim style system where a random courier would hand you a note that said, hey go check out [dungeon X], dummy!
The Eternal Ferrystone added to your inventory upon speaking with the Gran Soren innkeeper gives you unlimited fast travel between the two cities and up to 10 portcrystals you can manually place, which you'll come across in the course of the story.
No; though you won't be able to switch back to Hard without starting again.
I'm supposed to be finishing Witcher 3 but I can't put this down. I already finished this game twice on the 360 years ago why can't I stop..
I recruited a pawn named Butts, does he belong to anybody here?
I could shoot a goblin from afar and he would take credit for it. He has a fitting name.
Get eternal ferry stone from storage at Gran Soren, then find port crystals to put down.
edit: too slow
I recruited a pawn named Butts, does he belong to anybody here?
I could shoot a goblin from afar and he would take credit for it. He has a fitting name.
Get eternal ferry stone from storage at Gran Soren, then find port crystals to put down.
edit: too slow
As much as I am enjoying HM it looks like I need to switch to NM and keep it for NGF+.
I am lvl 27 (or higher) with rank 3 in strider and assassin while rank 10 ranger. I haven't done the last main quest in stage 1 (pawn guild one) but I have done many - including the quarry one.
I was able to fight all three ogres and clear that quest. Done many quests. But bandits wreck me. Trying to do the last few quests I have before going into stage 2, this one which is the tome one. I can't do it.
So yeah I will miss the gold intake but I am sure that is fine! Just as long as I can keep my quest progress and kill the freaking bandits.
uncredited male
Member
My pawn has bought it on 6 consecutive rentals. Three are from the same user so she must be doing something right.
Beat BBI on hard. I think I was high 80s or low 90s. I have been playing no wakestones so I had a lot in storage that I broke out for the end fight.
Beat BBI on hard. I think I was high 80s or low 90s. I have been playing no wakestones so I had a lot in storage that I broke out for the end fight.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Can't wait to start using Magick Archer. I've been leveling up these other vocations to get their Augments. I'm making a STR based MA since I want to do an Immolation build where I climb and set things on fire.
Projectjustice
Banned
What level should one start BBI?
CadetMahoney
Member
use certain curatives some specific ones for poison or a multi-cure called panacea or something. water/drenched apply a cloth.
you also get equipment/rings which give anti-poison etc. 100% protection at end game for a lot of things with the right gear/rings.
Make sure to completely back out from his dialog and not just his store.
Unless you start a new conversation each time you buy it won't count.
can't remember if it was like this on consoles but that's how it is now
You aren't getting Search Party because Reynard is involved in Trials and Tribulations. Deselect it from your current quest and he'll give it to you. There's a few other quests like that that if you have another quest involving them active when talking to people, they won't give you their own quests.
toastyToast
Member
40 should be fine. Keep in mind there's stuff that you won't be equipped to handle till you get BBI gear. If you aren't doing any damage just skip it.
Lanrutcon
Member
no luck at all with BBI gear
Which level of BBI gear are you at? Level 1 you get from the start, level 2 you get after killing the Bishop. Consider using these maps:
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Bitterblack_Isle
Large spawns are the way to level. I'd suggest you read up on how to kill large monsters with your vocation of choice. Are you in post game? as in, have you killed the dragon?
If so, there are several high level dragonkin and aerial monsters that now inhabit the world in set locations. Set some porta crystals near there, and go hunt them. They give great xp, some more than others. I'd suggest using a Weal item on those that give more xp. Some vendors sell Weal items postgame. For quick kills, stack 4 damage periapts. Resting 7 days respawns them all. Some locations to visit:
- Watergod Cave
- Bluemoon tower
- Extermination Site
- SE of Hillfigure Knoll
- W of Gran Soren
- Devilfire Grove
- Conquerer's Sanctuary
toastyToast
Member
For gold sell all the wakestones you find in Everfall. The place is a wakestone factory, no need to hang on to them. They go for 30k a piece and if you have a sorcerer or 2 you can get a bit more with Suasion. Running from Eliminator kind of makes sense since the first one you see is in such an enclosed space. The best thing you can do is get yourself some better weapons. There's a couple vendors in Everfall that sell the some of the best non-BBI gear. Get kitted out there then give BBI another shot.
Once your gear is good enough to kill stuff you'll start leveling like crazy.