TheSlySoul
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It is cool we get a demo with PS+ because otherwise I would just wait for a flash sale.
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DriveClub Review Thread.
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Forza Horizon 2 will very likely outsell DC at retail. Doesn't mean it can't do well for Sony digitally, but I'd keep expectations in check
I'm starting to get the feeling these sites are joking....
:lolKarma's a bitch
But... is 2+ higher or lower than 2-??
2- logically should mean a lesser 2, which means it should be closer to 2.0 and 2+ a higher to, closer to 2.9. this does not make any sense!Paugasoleo
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RespectThySole
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if you're right about that last part. Bigger brands tend to get treated differently by many reviewers imo.
Karma's a bitch
What's the story behind this?
MightyHedgehog
Member
Not only that, but PGR works off of a gambling system with its Kudos as chips you're piling up to bet on a bigger payout at the risk of losing it all. I've not seen anything of the sort in DC, but FH2 has it. I wonder where all of the 'DC is like PGR' comments come from when it doesn't seem to resemble it at all in terms of mechanics or its highly technical racing challenge. Maybe it's the handling model. Guess I'll find out when I play the PS+ edition.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Have you played it or are you letting reviews bias you that much already?
freakzilla3000
Junior Member
Crap.... Looks like the PS Plus version for me.
Just watch GB quick look. Seems like they have something going with the social aspects so I think the could fix some things in a sequel. I think the game will sell because all PS4 exclusives sell very well.
He tweeted out that he was disappointed at the game.
He tweeted out that he was disappointed at the game.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I'm not sure how you can come up with that so easily when PS4 is double Xbone's install base.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I have to admit, in one sense I would be happy if it really is so "plain". I was getting a bit sick of the over the top extreme sports and pseudo-celebrity career presentation of racing games the past generation. Like where every other game has some sultry female or borrowed voice of a pro sport racer constantly blubbering at the player. About what a sexy super class racing genius you're becoming, etc. It was so transparently concocted pandering to a perceived, stereotypical frat boy personality that the developers felt must be entreated to like a petulant manchild demanding constant reassurance of their own significance.
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
Karma's a bitch
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The Elite
BOSS
Yup. I think I'm going to enjoy both just fine.
Like I said though, switching back and forth between the two is going to be weird. They're very different games. DriveClub really penalizes you for shoddy racing while you can smash and hit everything in FH2 and the game almost rewards it.
Like what?
This is why I don't trust gaming reviews anymore. The reviews are all over the place for this game. Classic example would be Destiny, reviews are average but I spent a ton of fun in the game. And it's like a MMO, how is it supposed to be rated? When the patches are out would these gaming sites change their review? Nope.
These days I would just watch some gameplay videos online to decide instead, much easier. Wouldn't care much about review gaming scores, what a waste of time.
These days I would just watch some gameplay videos online to decide instead, much easier. Wouldn't care much about review gaming scores, what a waste of time.
As soon as a site has a brand name in it's title it pretty much loses all credibility to me. I can't imagine why anyone who runs a site would want to do that, unless they actually receive benefits from Sony, MS or nintendo
I replied directly to you. I'm not making a point other than the person you quoted before isn't making a double standard of MCC by not wanting to include TLoU in his example.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
if the collision/ai stuff is accurate it's not a game I'd want to play personally, so it's a great review for me personally, as it informs.
tfur
Member
But how to do feel about romance and soul?
Whenever a hyped game, be it this, Destiny, etc gets slammed in reviews, there's always a bunch of people criticizing review for any number of pretentious reasons.
Fact is we pay a lot of money for games, we ARE entitled to expect quality and a decent amount of content.
We are not paying for promises, our purchases aren't investments into the games development.
It seems to me, that whilst DriveClub (which I have preordered, and intend to enjoy) is a very pretty game, and a competent racer, there's just not enough there to justify high scores, it perhaps lacks in other areas too which make the game fundamentally fun.
Reminds me of the old argument SONY fanboys would bring up when comparing GT reviews to Forza - "Forza may be the better game, but GT is the better driving sim" Never understood this argument, as they're both games, one just being more complete.
Fact is we pay a lot of money for games, we ARE entitled to expect quality and a decent amount of content.
We are not paying for promises, our purchases aren't investments into the games development.
It seems to me, that whilst DriveClub (which I have preordered, and intend to enjoy) is a very pretty game, and a competent racer, there's just not enough there to justify high scores, it perhaps lacks in other areas too which make the game fundamentally fun.
Reminds me of the old argument SONY fanboys would bring up when comparing GT reviews to Forza - "Forza may be the better game, but GT is the better driving sim" Never understood this argument, as they're both games, one just being more complete.
You can just try it yourself.
And after playing it you can compare notes with whose reviewer echoes your feelings the most and then when a game comes out that doesn't allow you to play the full game (feature/patchlevel wise) as a test you can look towards them when making a purchasing decision in the future.
RealityPales
Member
Not sure why we're surprised by these scores.
dannethmps
Neo Member
don't think I will ever understand some reviews, excellent graphics, great looking cars, good game model etc, but no personality and soulless here have 5/10
onken
Member
That's the director of Drive Club being disappointed at Grid. Grid currently has a higher score on Metacritic.
TTOOLL
Member
I have no heart, bro.
flyinpiranha
Member
For a game that lets me race in other players, I would hope for more romance.
The cons, I'm sorry, are ridiculous. Soulless bland single player? What in the WORLD could they have done differently to a closed track racer to make it less bland? Add DJ Atomica? No thank you. And online options that seem oblivious to the fact that Autolog exists? HUH? What does that MEAN? That they should have just taken the options out since another racer already has a solution for online options? I mean, what kind of complaint is that?
WoolyNinja
Member
This is just getting too weird - so a driving game that has great driving and awesome graphics is rated a 5/10 for being sterile and soulless? Isn't all you want out of a driving game to have great driving and awesome graphics?
I could understand a 7/10 with those complaints but a 5/10?
I could understand a 7/10 with those complaints but a 5/10?
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Pain.
Clockwork5
Member
I get your post and agree with much of it, however, it seems as though this game does not hit an exceptionally high bar with the driving mechanics and has a few AI flaws. Thus as a somewhat barebones arcade racer got middling scores. Which is understandable. I'm still looking forward to trying out the plus version.
RespectThySole
Member
Damn that Metro Gamecentral review is pretty harsh.
GlamFM
Banned
Always. Destiny is my GOTY so far.
Dude I'm going to enjoy 'em both with a side-helping of The Crew and Project Cars. It's a great time for racing fans right now.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I am surprised so many reviews have concluded this game's quality without the social system even being tested by the masses. Sheesh.
A friend of mine embodies this by saying anything above 80 is above average. When confronted with the obvious flaw in that logic, he responded that he's going by what reviewers actually write to go along with their numbers.
So I'm glad to see this change, if what you say is true.
On topic; I'm still getting it, inspite of nearly getting banned for predicting this earlier ... A lot of what I enjoy in racing games is the atmosphere and this seems to deliver (or will, anyway, when the weather system is patched in).
Sir_Crocodile
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Audioboxer
Member
What the fuck? This is coming from a UK outlet towards a UK dev as well. That comment is absolutely ridiculous.
Install base isn't everything. Forza is a well known brand and there was a pre-launch demo that gathered a lot of great impressions and positivity. Driveclub is a new IP and the PS+ version and discounts encourage potential buyers to get it digitally.
I might be wrong, it's just my guess. But I don't think day 1 retail sales will be very good. Bundles will certainly help it in the holiday season though.
Like an AI so locked to its racing line that it will knock you off the road for trying to drive in the optimum position.
lol, I know it's weird. Not much logic in it, just that "+" always stands for better.But... is 2+ higher or lower than 2-??
EmptySpace
Banned
some consumers will look at the score and not give the game a chance.
problem is that these reviews affect purchasing power of consumers.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
But... is 2+ higher or lower than 2-??
2+ is better than 2-.
Doesn't make sense, but at least we have the metric system