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egm review scores - september 2007 (lair, blue dragon, mario strikers: charged, etc.)
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Finally tried the Blue Dragon demo yesterday. Not sure where all the hate is coming from but, besides it being incredibly easy (one hit kill on mobs which take away 20% of my health just seem rather unbalanced), I really enjoyed the presentation and the battle system, certainly didn't turn me away from the game. However, with such an average score, I shudder to think what Eternal Sonata is going to receive next month, since it is supposedly a much worse title.
Good for Atlus though, Persona series ought to get more exposure. It is always an unique experience, compared to the many RPG clones out there.
Good for Atlus though, Persona series ought to get more exposure. It is always an unique experience, compared to the many RPG clones out there.
Kabuki Waq
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Great thread guys. Makes me hope Halo 3 and MGS4 both bomb as well.
CajoleJuice
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This post should be put on display to let the world know what GAF does to gamers. :lolKabuki Waq said:
Opus Angelorum
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Lobster said:
Oh boy!
Captain Glanton
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JDSN said:
Oh, this is nothing. Check out the locked 1up thread that this thread spawned. It truly makes you worry for the future of gaming, in the most entertaining way possible.
This thread is pretty funny. Dissapointed a bit in the BD scores, but then again BlimBlim did a much better job selling me on the game than those little snippets do for me. So I think I will still buy it, unless Bioshock is THAT damn good and I won't have money for both. In which case I'll buy Bioshock and rent Blue Dragon. Heck I loved Enchanted Arms and most reviewers trashed that game.
BenjaminBirdie
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jimbo said:
Keep your eye off the front page, re: Bioshock.
And yeah, BlimBlim sold me on Blue Dragon months ago, and the demo sealed the deal.
Souldriver
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"A game from factor 5"
:lol
:lol
nelsonroyale
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Prine said:
Im shocked you think that...shocked.
dont agree at all, the retadedly short demo was pretty good
BenjaminBirdie
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Darji said:
It's the basic impression (although less harsh, I don't think the gameplay is really MIA) I got from the 1up Show segment. The gameplay is just not on the level of the medium defining cutscenes.
nelsonroyale
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BenjaminBirdie said:
heh, well, gameplay rarely manages to emulate the flow and intensity of cutscenes...but I disagree...the game is fun and with impressive graphics, music and, perhaps, a decent story...its going to be a big deal. Most of the people here having reservation on the combat are DMC or NG nuts...Ive played both, and still enjoy this...most casual people I know would really enjoy it I think...
peace
JzeroT1437
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I think we should get back to deciding as to whether this magazine is real or not.
I can't get enough of that.
I can't get enough of that.
college_boy
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You do realize it was someone from GAF that posted that thread.the disgruntled gamer said:
Kabuki Waq
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Wollan said:
HS judging by the Demo seems really sluggish and shallow-ish. Buth then again demo was like 3 minutes long.
pr0cs
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BenjaminBirdie said:
MIA was perhaps a bit too over the top of a statement but I guess I was comparing how amazing everything else is to the gameplay. The gameplay seems overshadowed by the awesomeness of the production values within the non-game elements.
I hope to be very wrong, I hope HS all around is totally kickass but everything I've seen thus far seems to suggest that they may have forgotten to spend as much time on the game as all the other stuff.
Kabuki Waq
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pr0cs said:
Sadly the "other stuff" is what seems to appeal to the masses now. As shown by the Wii Success.
but lets not go there. This thread is about how Factor 5 has tainted Sony.
beelzebozo
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time out--isn't the "other stuff" being discussed lovely animations, great mo-cap, interesting cut scenes and voice acting? things that are generally considered to be absent in most current wii titles?
how is wii evidence that people care more about "other stuff" rather than gameplay? that's a confusing comment, buster. explain yourself.
how is wii evidence that people care more about "other stuff" rather than gameplay? that's a confusing comment, buster. explain yourself.
titiklabingapat
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No.Kabuki Waq said:
The "other" stuff in Hs are very much the opposite of Nintendo's idea of a non-game. HS is too otaku-ish/comic book-y to be lumped amongst the likes of Wii Sports and Flash Focus.
Schopenhauer
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Can't wait for Persona 3, and I am still getting Blue Dragon despite the lowish scores.
But only because I found a good deal on BD. :lol
But only because I found a good deal on BD. :lol
Kabuki Waq
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beelzebozo said:
other stuff that i meant was marketing gimmickry. All sony needs to do is Market HS as a revolutionary hair combing simulator it will be set.
The other stuff that you mean just does well with the GAF" Art/story> gameplay crowd.
My mistake.
titiklabingapat
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HS is still very much close to the Playstation idea of a "cinematic" game so your characterisation of it as gimmicky puzzles me.Kabuki Waq said:
Kabuki Waq
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titiklabingapat said:
i am not saying HS is gimmicky i was just pointing out that it would sell more if it was. I thought "other stuff" was referring to something else.
super funk
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Has anybody noticed a trend with developers that leave Nintendo?
First is Rare. They leave and make 4 mediocre games in 7 years for Microsoft.
Next is Silicon Knights. Since leaving Nintendo, they have yet to release Too Human and it most likely will not be released before Duke Nukem Forever.
And now we have Factor 5. Their first game since leaving Nintendo got bad reviews from EGM, so that means that it sucks.
Coincidence or big coincidence? You decide!
First is Rare. They leave and make 4 mediocre games in 7 years for Microsoft.
Next is Silicon Knights. Since leaving Nintendo, they have yet to release Too Human and it most likely will not be released before Duke Nukem Forever.
And now we have Factor 5. Their first game since leaving Nintendo got bad reviews from EGM, so that means that it sucks.
Coincidence or big coincidence? You decide!
Yes, I know Rares game have been better than mediocre, but calling them good doesnt work towards the overall joke.
Kabuki Waq
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super funk said:
I think without the nintendo goggles you just notice how crappy their games really were.
FActor 5 games were mediocre on n64 and GC. Rare had not made a great game in ages before MS bought them.
beelzebozo
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i was a big fan of eternal darkness. it'll be interesting to see if sk can turn out something special in too human with ead's development support. even with nintendo's backing, eternal darkness had a long and slightly troubled development, so maybe all's not lost.
i do think nintendo has a way of elevating the work of the developers they take under their wing, though. in rare's case that often seems to come from borrowing game design piece-meal, but it elevates them, none the less
i do think nintendo has a way of elevating the work of the developers they take under their wing, though. in rare's case that often seems to come from borrowing game design piece-meal, but it elevates them, none the less
titiklabingapat
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Another good example is Arika with Forever Blue. It's more non-gamey now but the whole package seems more coordinated than it's predecessor.beelzebozo said:
beelzebozo said:
Kameo and Viva Pinata are great examples of what Rare is capable of doing without Nintendo. MS is giving them the chance of realizing some of their own original idea, and even though they put out a couple of dissapointing games, just take a look at both of those and see how they truly do differ from basically anything else out there, in both style and gameplay.
While I can't wait for Banjo, and I'd love to see another KI, at the same time I like Rare coming up with new IP's and I hope they continue to do so.
They really need to freaking hurry the hell up and make a Kart racer. Diddy Kong was brilliant. Hopefully between Conker, Viva and even Kameo they'll have enough reognizable characters(special guest Master Chief) to pull off an awesome kart racing game. Just imagine one that actually spanned all the environments of all of those games: Halo, Conker, Viva and Kameo racing tracks.....HOLY COW!!!
EGMs review is far from Gospel
If Lair and BD really are horrid games as they claim they won't be the only ones giving out 5s-6s. EGM is one magazine with very unprofessional magazine staff that has fallen behind the times.
They still don't get why Hanna Montana owns and why high school musical has legions of fans. It's not surprising the F5 cherry was popped by EGM when they decided to take a new venture with sixaxis only flight controls. It's not traditional controls and requires a new approach to a flying game.
And for traditionalist if it's not pick up and play easy the whole experience from the first moment forward is ruined. I'm sure F5 has to take fault here as well with not offering alternate controller configurations for the purist. I find it hard to believe that the controls were just broken difficult maybe but broken enough to ruin the story gameplay and fun factor? All I can say about it is wow I just have to try this for my self and see what the other reviews look like.
If Lair and BD really are horrid games as they claim they won't be the only ones giving out 5s-6s. EGM is one magazine with very unprofessional magazine staff that has fallen behind the times.
They still don't get why Hanna Montana owns and why high school musical has legions of fans. It's not surprising the F5 cherry was popped by EGM when they decided to take a new venture with sixaxis only flight controls. It's not traditional controls and requires a new approach to a flying game.
And for traditionalist if it's not pick up and play easy the whole experience from the first moment forward is ruined. I'm sure F5 has to take fault here as well with not offering alternate controller configurations for the purist. I find it hard to believe that the controls were just broken difficult maybe but broken enough to ruin the story gameplay and fun factor? All I can say about it is wow I just have to try this for my self and see what the other reviews look like.
titiklabingapat
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you sound like a wii fanP209 said:
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