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Final Fantasy XIV Beta Discussion + Media
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Gromph said:
You are such a kind and giving soul
New Making of:
http://www.youtube.com/finalfantasyxiv#p/u/2/Y0low0f9Fpo
demosthenes
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Has anyone here crafted a lot? I went on and made a new character yesterday and was confused to all hell about the system. I ruined all 3 synths of the opening quest and I guess I have to wait 48 hours before doing it again? Any guidance is appreciated @.@
other than the entire ui being designed for menu click through based interaction instead of drag and drop which would be insanely useful for itemization on the keyboard and mouse controls from someone who games on the pc everyday would be more than adequate. That and you cant use the mouse to explore the map.
you got WASD, Hardware Mouse, Hotkeys, 1-0 for abilities, and control/alt for alt abilities.
now if you liked the the FFXI keyboard only control scheme you were pretty much screwed as the arrows dont control the camera.
1) Implement hardware mouse for PC gamer control scheme
2) Implement arrow key camera control for FFXI like keyboard control scheme
Apparently SE doesn't know how to setup alternative control schemes because all of these random control schemes have been jam packed on the one keyboard setup. Its all personal preference after that.
you got WASD, Hardware Mouse, Hotkeys, 1-0 for abilities, and control/alt for alt abilities.
now if you liked the the FFXI keyboard only control scheme you were pretty much screwed as the arrows dont control the camera.
1) Implement hardware mouse for PC gamer control scheme
2) Implement arrow key camera control for FFXI like keyboard control scheme
Apparently SE doesn't know how to setup alternative control schemes because all of these random control schemes have been jam packed on the one keyboard setup. Its all personal preference after that.
Zomba13
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And yet you have some idiot's defending itJinko said:
I get them wanting the market ward system, to prevent things like rolanmart and overcrowded jeuno but just having it on it's own is just a bad way to shop.
I suggest in retail we notify people whenever we see something good for a good price, so we don't all spend an hour looking for the same sword or something.
Unknown Soldier said:
One edit on this, when I said I got nothing, most of the time that was no XP or SP. So you don't automatically get XP.
This is just ridiculous. There were very few occasions when I got XP and no SP, and unless I was doing all of the damage, I got no SP or less than 100 SP. Unless this changes there's absolutely no reason for mages to party.
I don't even see a good solution for this other than to go back to the way it was in FFXI. Even if you give mages SP for healing and buffing/debuffing, they won't do enough of it in a fight to make it worthwhile. If you have a good tank (I'm thinking GLD with cure, or PUG with shadows), there may be fights when the mage doesn't heal at all. In which case, I'd still get no SP. Couple this with the MP regen issues and I don't see a good solution in site other than the FFXI system.
If nothing is done about this by launch, I'll focus almost exclusively on crafting and only level my mage classes solo (when I need materials). I'd like to have a high level CON and THM, but partying won't get me anywhere.
Jinko said:
SE has made some ridiculous decisions in FFXI and early on in FFXIV, but I have to believe that the party and AH systems will be good to go for launch. I just can't believe SE thinks the market wards are a good idea as the ONLY way to search for items to buy from other players in one spot. I have to have more faith than that.
Can anyone confirm whether or not SE stated there would be no AH at launch?
fizzelopeguss
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Gromph said:
Is that because it was leaked all over the place?
And yet you have some idiot's defending it
I get them wanting the market ward system, to prevent things like rolanmart and overcrowded jeuno but just having it on it's own is just a bad way to shop.
I suggest in retail we notify people whenever we see something good for a good price, so we don't all spend an hour looking for the same sword or something.
JUST PUT IN AN AUCTION HOUSE! RAAAARGH!
They're gonna have to do it anyway, so why are they dicking around?
Regarding Final Fantasy XIV and the market battle system is something we would like to consider the equilevent to the auction house we had in Final Fantasy XI. Only that you'll also be able to fix your equipment and things like that. It is something we really want people to enjoy. Also after the release of the game we will see how it goes and for example find out what kind of search options players will want and need and improve the situation. We don't really want to introduce the auctionhouse from the beginning because that is going to determine the economy system. So we want to improve it slowly and adjust it accordingly.DrDogg said:
Take what you want from that.
There's a few things that disturb me about that quote. First of all, they consider the market system to be an equivalent of the auction house (wtf). Secondly, they imply that, not only will auction house not be available at release, search functions for the market might not be ready either.
fizzelopeguss
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No joke, that market ward has gotta be the worst implementation of a player run market i have ever seen in a game. I literally could not believe my eyes.
If there's any slim chance or proof that we're playing a months old beta build then that has to be it.
Also i'm apparently not sophisticated enough for this game
If there's any slim chance or proof that we're playing a months old beta build then that has to be it.
Also i'm apparently not sophisticated enough for this game
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Update: I was selling a dodoskin harness for 150,000 gil, and someone bought that too.Rentahamster said:
Yeah, the exp gain is really odd. There doesn't seem to be any penalty for number of party members or party member level disparity. The reason party exp usually sucks is that you have so many people trying to hit the monster that your share of hits and damage done is less overall than if you were soloing. Also, has anyone ever gotten more than 500 skill/rank points from a monster? It seems like that is the max you can get from one mob at a time.DrDogg said:
It's dumb how leveling you job now is more like skillup parties from FF11. Instead of trying to kill the monster as fast as possible, you are now trying to keep it alive as long as possible and get in as many hits as you can.
notworksafe
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Christ, that post is simply awful. The game clearly isn't for someone that wants what the game shows on the back of the box? What?
So, I'm trying to figure out the best method of leveling up my jobs and crafts but sort of drawing a blank. I did this with FFXI and it worked fantastically, but it's not going to be so easy this time around.
I believe I would like to go Marauder. However, it seems that to have the most options, actions wise, you'll pretty much need to level up each other class to a specific level (especially to fill in a role of tanking Marauder, DD, etc). Then there's crafting. Equipment is going to be huge for this game. Stands to reason that one would take up the type of craft that would allow you fit your main class the best. For Marauder, that means Armorer, Blacksmith and miner. Sadly, I also like fishing and cooking. :lol
For those who were making equipment regularly in the beta, was finding parts to do so difficult?
I believe I would like to go Marauder. However, it seems that to have the most options, actions wise, you'll pretty much need to level up each other class to a specific level (especially to fill in a role of tanking Marauder, DD, etc). Then there's crafting. Equipment is going to be huge for this game. Stands to reason that one would take up the type of craft that would allow you fit your main class the best. For Marauder, that means Armorer, Blacksmith and miner. Sadly, I also like fishing and cooking. :lol
For those who were making equipment regularly in the beta, was finding parts to do so difficult?
falastini said:
F-U Square! You hear me?! F-U!
How old is that quote? Give me an interview with these people and let me ask some real questions. They're lucky I'm not at TGS to rip them a new one about this. Too bad I can't post on the beta forums. I'd light someone up and get banned or something... :lol
Not only do they not intend to have an AH at launch, but they think searching through the market ward is a good idea? I mean, even if I can just type in an item and it tells me which retainer has it and in which market ward, how long will it take to search through the hundreds of retainers to find the one I need (presumably indicated by name via the search)?
Not only that, but it takes a decent amount of time to even see all of the retainers. Just yesterday I ended up calling upon my retainer because I couldn't find her in the market ward. If I can't find my own retainer how do I expect others to find her?
And I assume there's no way to determine if anything sold on your retainer until you've called upon them? So I have to run to the market wards and hope something sold instead of just looking at my inbox in my mog house like I can do in FFXI? Fail!
To top it off, we'll have to pay for retainers at retail, on top of the tax charged in the retainer's bazaar. So we get double tax... I really need to slap someone at Square.
- I can't party (my favorite aspect of FFXI)
- I can craft, but so will everyone else, and it'll be a madhouse trying to sell items or find crafting materials.
This might just kill the game for me.
Freakinchair
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Alright, so I'm job level 10 (Lancer) and I finished all of the guildleves at drybone near ul'dah. I've done the next set of story missions (making an omelette). What do I do now? Do I grind mobs till level 20? That would suck pretty hard considering how many breaks I need to take in between kills at this level since stuff actually hits hard now.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Instead of calling each Market Ward section some arbitrary name like Syntgoth or some stupid shit, they should just name them "war", "magic", "land", "hand", etc. Or go even more specific. Fuck this shit.
Kintaro said:
Im doing the same thing as you. Marauder, Blacksmith, Armorer, Miner. Too bad my starting city will be Gridania and all my guilds will be in Limsa
Im actually starting the game as PUG though and quickly starting off with guildleves to get to rank 6 ASAP for Second Wind. Combining that with Marauders Bloodbath really helps reduce my down time.
DrDogg said:
It was one of the several Gamescom interviews that were released... so mid/late August?
Except it's not that easy. Items usually consist of multiple components from different crafts. For example, a pair of PUG weapons requires mid-level blacksmithing to make, but two of the components require higher level leatherworking. Another pair of PUG weapons, requires leatherworking to make, but you need a combination of smithing and weaving components. Your not going to be able to craft your own tools in this game without relying on other professions. I still have not been able to upgrade my weapons, because I just can't find anybody with the ingredients I need (yay marketplace).Kintaro said:
Salaadin said:Im doing the same thing as you. Marauder, Blacksmith, Armorer, Miner. Too bad my starting city will be Gridania and all my guilds will be in Limsa
Im actually starting the game as PUG though and quickly starting off with guildleves to get to rank 6 ASAP for Second Wind. Combining that with Marauders Bloodbath really helps reduce my down time.
That's a good idea actually. I'll be in Limsa though.
So I was finally able to get into the open beta last night. I really love the style of the game, but wow, was I just completely lost for the two or so hours I played. I'm gonna jump on again tonight. I'm in Limsa Lominsa and I'd really appreciate a linkpearl if anyone will be on.
Its probably going to be essential to get a group of friends who all do different crafts and you can all craft things for eachother to help eachother out. Thats about all I can think of because I am not going to level every craft.
Other than that, just make gil somehow and pray that you find a bazaar with the items you need at a decent price.
Other than that, just make gil somehow and pray that you find a bazaar with the items you need at a decent price.
Kintaro said:
The plus side of it all is though that most of the beginner/mid crafting stuff is all sold by vendors. So I bet you can give a lot of your gilz to many happy folks who would love to craft you stuff. Sure it'll be easier for some to kill dodo's and get their leather. For others 4k gil is nothing. Besides that one could make an honest living on selling things like Windshards and Lightningshards in Uldah.
They are not easily gained there and could make quite some money (since Windshards is needed by most). Though I do fully agree on the part that one does not switch armor a lot if at all in the first 10-20 levels(which is kinda silly).
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I got some pretty good armor now, still have on the starter belt.Kintaro said:
What I really need is a new axe. I still have the starter axe.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
We got any (at least level 8) Thaumaturges in the LS? I know Dogg is one.
I'm gonna do some testing later on in around 10 or more hours from now and would need a THA. I'm gonna try more of the "I tank while you do all the attacking" testing. You'll probably get mad skillups, too.
I want to try it on a stronger mob to see if we can break the 500 SP per monster barrier.
I'm gonna do some testing later on in around 10 or more hours from now and would need a THA. I'm gonna try more of the "I tank while you do all the attacking" testing. You'll probably get mad skillups, too.
I want to try it on a stronger mob to see if we can break the 500 SP per monster barrier.
demosthenes
Member
Raide said:
I asked the same thing in both threads and got nothing back
I saw this on gamefaqs, haven't tried it yet:
as far as crafting goes; do you know the trick to succeeding? when the orb is white i use rapid synth, for flashing i use standard synth. if it's yellow or red i click wait and then it normally goes back to flashing. i rarely fail when i do this.
demosthenes
Member
Random Q. I asked about getting new abilities and if you have to buy them from the guild or not. Someone said you didn't, that I should check my chars traits tab. I did but I didn't have anything. When does say a Marauder learn his first new ability. I'm Rank 6.
Well, not me personally, but a guy I know D;Jinko said:I take it you can make dyes then
Any chance you can make the leather dyes yet ?
Any idea what level alchemy dyes need? I'm just trying to gather all the pieces for a damn axe, and hopefully procure talent when it's needed 3;
So apparently scale bugs come from Botany as well? ;o Sounds better than farming cactaurs ;x
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