irfaanator
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I like these ideas, but I dont think we'd see anything like them till 4.0 since I doubt they would add even more skill bloat and hopefully rework old skills to better suit the tank class/package
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| The Midas Touch
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I like these ideas, but I dont think we'd see anything like them till 4.0 since I doubt they would add even more skill bloat and hopefully rework old skills to better suit the tank class/package
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Yeah, I realize this is a ton of wishful thinking. I don't really see them reworking the tank classes in the way I described, since I think they might view it as too much of a shake up compared to how they are currently.
I officially give up. Thordan is impossible in the PF with random people.
Think I'll just spend my time grinding Alex a million times instead.
Ouch that's too bad... I've been there too, and it was not only once.
Dunno about the tank DPS, but I think you should only have 1 PLD.
You've reached enrage with less than 1 percent. You'll get him soon.
got my summoner to 9 tonight.....whatever. Definitely is feeling slower in the beginning but thats because carbuncle is a dps pet lol. He is very helpful though
Maybe someone will accept my request in the game overnight. Everyone was playing everything else from what I was listening to in mumble hahaha
Maybe someone will accept my request in the game overnight. Everyone was playing everything else from what I was listening to in mumble hahaha
I can help get you in tomorrow if someone has not accepted you yet
They need to make stealth for gatherers work in Diadem because nobody fights anything anymore. Or just make mobs not spawn near gathering nodes.
finally got the sphalerite needed for it. rng was really hating me. i limited myself to using all my abilities for better yield on the nodes that had a natural yield bonus so i'd be gathering 4 sphalerite and would get no HQ gathers of sphalerite even though i had a 41% chance
finally got the sphalerite needed for it. rng was really hating me. i limited myself to using all my abilities for better yield on the nodes that had a natural yield bonus so i'd be gathering 4 sphalerite and would get no HQ gathers of sphalerite even though i had a 41% chance
I officially give up. Thordan is impossible in the PF with random people.
Think I'll just spend my time grinding Alex a million times instead.
What server are you on?
Did you fill out a guildworks application? Here's the link if you havent: http://neogaf.guildwork.com/
Post when you've done it and I'll accept your request in game.
Gamer @ Heart
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Welp. Our caster is done with FF14 unless 3.2 delivers. God willing they make crafting useful again instead of just crafting shit for other crafter's to craft better because that was what he was into. That and fishing.
Anyone hear an estimate for the live letter detailing it? Could it be a febuary launch of is that a pipe dream?
Anyone hear an estimate for the live letter detailing it? Could it be a febuary launch of is that a pipe dream?
Ah. Well I can't say i agree with all that (part of it yes). AST does have comparatively few direct heals off the GCD vs to Lustrate x 3 and Bene/Tetra. At best Dignity is one usually better Lustrate or one slightly better Tetra, and that's only if you let a tank's HP dip more than I am usually comfortable with (although blowing it immediately following a Living Dead proc is so delightful!)
The thing about AST's RNG is that in most situations in raiding the chances of pulling a card combo you can't use are extremely small. You can use pretty much any card at any time and get some good use out of it (though some are obv more useful than others) so I think AST's low points aren't actually very low. I mean sure, you may not care about extra MP or TP in a 4 man, but you can sure use it in a tough raid. And the others are even more useful. It's effectively generating extra resources so you can shift others towards more deeps when you get that extra Bole or Spear or w/e, not to mention Arrow/Balance ect. You can call it a problem the same way you can call WHM's acc issues a problem, but classes *should* have weaknesses (fair ones, to both counter their strengths and make them work well with others who have different ones). AST's weakness is probably always going to include that RNG factor. No matter how much I can minimize the odds of a bad pull, it still happens sometimes. And there's nothing I can do about it but try again.
I really do think it's that small chance of failure with the card combos (which is completely outside player control) that shies some (most?) world first comps away, even if I personally think the positives are gonna outweigh the negatives. AST's DPS related buffs mean a comp including one will almost always have a higher theoretical DPS threshold than one without if the other 7 classes stay the same, and so I guess it would be matter of whether an AST's passive buffs + active healing would allow said threshold to be realized in that progression. I am unsure, since post AST buffs I have yet to feel it was my class (rather than me, or someone else) at fault, but I also have 0 interest participating in worldfirst progression (I did that in WoW for a stretch and had my fill of it many times over).
I know that ppl like to mimic worldfirst groups though, and am not blind to the spillover effects that can have on the community
But what do I really know, I dropped SCH for this and still don't regret it.
It's mostly that they have the least ways to deal with sudden crunch time for healing. When left with minimal GCDs, they'll struggle the most. This matters less and less as the gear curve catches up but it stands out earlier in the tier. Alexander 2 being a bit more lax may make it less of an issue but time will tell there.
Alternatively, AST is eventually the best healer for the tier when it comes to farm status period when gear lets them catch-up healing wise and then their buffs for speeding up fights.
It's worth noting nobody's saying AST is non-functional, just that bringing an AST is going to be more difficult than bringing the two non-AST healers, and jobs should never be balanced such that one of your options is just flat-out the worst at its role. AST has a toolkit that more or less functions, but will never be considered as-is for early progression because of its shortcomings. And later in content it doesn't stop being a little harder to have an AST, it's just that the content difficulty has decreased relative to gear, so you can get away with a little more GCD starvation.
I mean, I fully intend to live the hilarious AST/WHM disasterfest dream in alt stuff assuming all 8 of us are ever online at the same time. But there's no question that it'd be flat out easier to do all of this if I made my alt a SCH, and it's not a case of class synergy so much as one job coming up short. People mimic the world-first groups in part because the world first groups will gravitate towards things that are most advantageous for the content; if people are approaching things primarily to clear, going with the most advantageous comp makes sense. For more laid back stuff and later clears, it doesn't matter, and people should play what they want as long as everyone knows they're in for potentially a little more struggle. But it not mattering doesn't make AST not inherently worse off than the other two healers (much like being able to clear everything with a PLD doesn't mean PLD's not worse off than the other tanks.)
The thing with card RNG is that it's more beneficial to speedkills and less beneficial when you're just trying to make enrage; you need to have the DPS to kill the thing even if every card you get is meh.
I mean, I fully intend to live the hilarious AST/WHM disasterfest dream in alt stuff assuming all 8 of us are ever online at the same time. But there's no question that it'd be flat out easier to do all of this if I made my alt a SCH, and it's not a case of class synergy so much as one job coming up short. People mimic the world-first groups in part because the world first groups will gravitate towards things that are most advantageous for the content; if people are approaching things primarily to clear, going with the most advantageous comp makes sense. For more laid back stuff and later clears, it doesn't matter, and people should play what they want as long as everyone knows they're in for potentially a little more struggle. But it not mattering doesn't make AST not inherently worse off than the other two healers (much like being able to clear everything with a PLD doesn't mean PLD's not worse off than the other tanks.)
The thing with card RNG is that it's more beneficial to speedkills and less beneficial when you're just trying to make enrage; you need to have the DPS to kill the thing even if every card you get is meh.
Late February, I think.
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Watching Korean players do FCOB progression. Got those Potent Poisoning Potions and PLD/WAR dream team!
Another is streaming DF T6. It's like I'm looking into the past.
it was done apparently months ago lol....I just happen to accept it last night. It's how i got the mumble info
PhillipCostigan
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EndcatOmega
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AST is the best healer if it gives me balance cards and the worst if it gives some lame ranged balance cards.
PhillipCostigan
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agreed
Get better!
Dangansona
Member
Hey guys, should I activate Heavensward before I finish the base story so I can start earning exp since I'm level 50? Or is it better just to wait so I'm not overwhelmed by content?
Damn is ultros a full sever? I wonder if they will even let me transfer over then from Gilgamesh...
thanks to PSN being down allowing lower pops on servers, I got onto Ultros and applied to the GAF guild
Damn is ultros a full sever? I wonder if they will even let me transfer over then from Gilgamesh...
xxczx
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"don't raise me"I officially give up. Thordan is impossible in the PF with random people.
Think I'll just spend my time grinding Alex a million times instead.
lol
That wasn't the first time... Hmph. It's always something with this fight. Gotta try and convince a farm party to let me in... but that's hard enough while WHM. They'd have to put a lot of faith in me
Lamia
Maybe I'll transfer to Gilgamesh for a carry like everyone else
:lol
Should probably stick on Gilgamesh lol
Gilga is the second highest populated server, you'll find a lot of activity there at endgame.
If you normally take your time playing and go slowly, then I'd say don't buy Heavensward until you have beaten maybe Ramuh/Shiva or if Heavensward is on sale while you're going through the patch stories. If you don't mind shelling out for HW while you're still ticking away at your sub, then go for it. The patch exp is probably enough for a level or two.
Dangansona
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Ok cool, because I got Heavensward for Christmas and I'm going through the patch stories now.
I wanted to switch so I could join the GAF FC. Since I got Heavensward and 60 days for Christmas I thought it would be fine to pay the transfer fee. I'm not currently in a FC so I'd like to join one anyways.
are MCH's really that bad? I know I felt really weak leveling my bard to 60 lol
edit: also should I stay on Ultros lol......I noticed the population just in town last night seemed even lower than my server I was on Faerie
MCH is fiiiiiiine.
It's noticeably less fun level-synced though. Ricochet and Hypercharge are my two favorite buttons! (Also fuck Ravana HM and his aversion to letting Wildfire explode). Guessing the issue here was more Steps though.
And PSN outage made dead sever even deader last night.
It's noticeably less fun level-synced though. Ricochet and Hypercharge are my two favorite buttons! (Also fuck Ravana HM and his aversion to letting Wildfire explode). Guessing the issue here was more Steps though.
And PSN outage made dead sever even deader last night.
Curry-Hakase
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So uhh, is there a decent way to make gil without crafting/gathering?
I started leveling a BTN and MIN but this grind is so mind numbing...
I just want to be able to afford food. :<
I started leveling a BTN and MIN but this grind is so mind numbing...
I just want to be able to afford food. :<
Ultros has a workable population although our raid community is pretty sparse. It's just not a megaserver so it doesn't have the population of a Gilgamesh, and there's little reason to hang out in the starter cities so those being emptier isn't shocking. And the PSN outage really did have an impact on who could even play during the normal busy time last night.
Ultros is perfectly fine for leveling, it's just not one of the super active destination servers. We're in the Primal Datacenter so any DF content will pull from any Primal server, not just Ultros.
Ultros is perfectly fine for leveling, it's just not one of the super active destination servers. We're in the Primal Datacenter so any DF content will pull from any Primal server, not just Ultros.
Dangansona
Member
I guess my last two questions about ultros and the FC are:
1) Is there space in the FC?
2) are there any other recent 50's in the FC, or is it all late late game members?
Adventurer in need.
It's a slow process! ;_; Or you could sell yourself in the party finder. That's totally a thing right now
Yes; we generally have space available and if it fills up (like around HW launch) they start kicking out Alts to make room for new people.
I think we have a pretty good mix of people, but most of the vocal people I recognize in FC chat have been around a while. But being the GAF FC means we get a decent influx of people pretty constantly; new people just tend to be quieter. Plus now is a really good time to be a fresh 50 as even longer-playing people will be VERY invested in getting you through stuff for your new-player bonus. And in general during prime time you can find people to help with most things. We have a number of GAF people in raid groups, but it's not like serious endgame raiding is really an FC focus.
This thread has made me want this now more than ever, Duty Roulette: Coils. Why is this not a thing? And I'll preemptively post this as a response:
killing shit? Things like amphitere skins, dragons skins, crawler cocoons, okeanis tail..basically anything that goes into high end recipes/crafts.
MCH is fine despite having a somewhat unobvious counter-intuitive opener after which you sleepwalk the entire fight but the problem in Steps is that you have to keep moving your turret and it's cancer.
Meanwhile, Lucrezia's main team has disbanded.
PhillipCostigan
Member
man, so that's Elysium main team and Lucrezia main team gone.
Intersting. World first raid scene for 3.2 will be very different.
Intersting. World first raid scene for 3.2 will be very different.
Next tier is certainly going to be interesting. Who's gonna nolife it now? (Team USA beat them to the clear and beat them to disbanding. Always first!)
After watching anima grinders wipe in full Unsynced parties, I can only imagine the horror stories as people are forced to deal with being 50 again and finding themselves in T7.
This thread has made me want this now more than ever, Duty Roulette: Coils. Why is this not a thing? And I'll preemptively post this as a response:
After watching anima grinders wipe in full Unsynced parties, I can only imagine the horror stories as people are forced to deal with being 50 again and finding themselves in T7.
PhillipCostigan
Member
with the new servers it's Europe's time to shine!
Wow, both the world first groups quit? Ending on a tie, how fitting.
#mechanics
16 stack Mel dream though.
#mechanics
16 stack Mel dream though.
Yeah, it's a mostly "setting the scene" patch for future 3.x stuff but it has teases for the inevitable fight that we are heading towards from the cliff hanger ending in 3.0 and warrior of darkness stuff (no, I'm not putting spoiler tags over something that was in the patch preview video
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