Yeah their HP levels are pretty close to current 210 hp levels. It's pretty similar to the levels that Elysium had when they cleared as well. A bit higher in some spots, lower in others.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| The Midas Touch
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Yeah their HP levels are pretty close to current 210 hp levels. It's pretty similar to the levels that Elysium had when they cleared as well. A bit higher in some spots, lower in others.
Their MCH is almost 2,000 HP below where I am in A4S I think? Given the heart attack that is watching my health bar in the back half of the fight, that HP gap seems gigantic to me.
unless we watched a different video they don't have a MCH, and their BRD's Hp is ~15337, which is more or less where my health ends up with {non-risotto} food.Yeah ... I went to check my random DPS geared alts and DRG is full i210 sans weapon (Hive) and belt (Law, apparently) and that's 14.2k HP. Out of party and without food. My MCH is around 13.2k? and that's pretty much full Law.
Going to take a guess and say you watched this video from the comment thread there. If so, that's from back in like ... October. And is a JP group.
Going to take a guess and say you watched this video from the comment thread there. If so, that's from back in like ... October. And is a JP group.
I watched this one? Or tried to. Which is all in Chinese so I assume it's the right one.
Also the miniparse in the picture with the achievement has a MCH in it
Yup, that's the one I watched since I couldn't be arsed to translate the page. I figured this was the case. That explains a bit more.
That's what actually confused me as to why a Chinese game would be using katakana rip rip rip. I guess I won't be lazy next time. I guess it was foolish to assume the only video actually embedded on moonrunes page wouldn't be the video in question. Oh well.
edit: okay yeah, those health numbers are >_> way scarier.
Gonna cross post this from reddit.
Hypothetically speaking, assume you're chosen to make a Savage version of an existing dungeon. What twisted evil mechanics and pit-falls do you throw in to foil our heroes? How often do you want parties to wipe? How many controllers do you want them to throw through their computer monitor? This is your chance to be satan, figuratively speaking, have fun with it!
For bonus points, which dungeons do you choose, and what sort of bosses do you pick?
Hypothetically speaking, assume you're chosen to make a Savage version of an existing dungeon. What twisted evil mechanics and pit-falls do you throw in to foil our heroes? How often do you want parties to wipe? How many controllers do you want them to throw through their computer monitor? This is your chance to be satan, figuratively speaking, have fun with it!
For bonus points, which dungeons do you choose, and what sort of bosses do you pick?
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if I wiped on a savage dungeon, I'd have it kick the group out so I don't have to waste more time wiping
I'm inclined to think that, maybe they gave them the upcoming nerfed version of the fight from 3.2?
The amount of salt in the comments is hilarious. People even claiming the Chinese version must be easier and that they won't believe it's possible in 190 until a global group does it.
For those that can't view it from work/mobile/etc; group comp is WAR/DRK/NIN/DRG/MNK/MCH/SCH/WHM, the MNK didn't do dolls or anything and was just max dps all fight, they ignore the large doll entire fight so maximum whirbels, they do a bunch of shields on the doll people in final phase because of weakness. Sacs are NIN/WAR/MCH first, WAR/MCH/healer second, WAR/MCH/healer third.
Who needs casters anyway. Melee army.
They were full i190 with maybe an Eso accessory and they did the requisite 5 million damage for a legit kill. Based on the posted parse, reviewing parts of the clear, and talking to somebody who watched the whole thing it was indeed a legit clear. Leg HP mirrors the NA version. Triple melee+MCH, tons of regen, and they let the Straf everyone usually kills Wirble.
They appear to really be just that good. And potentially players who also play the non-China version so had experience, but it really does look like they did all the DPS.
They appear to really be just that good. And potentially players who also play the non-China version so had experience, but it really does look like they did all the DPS.
I watched the full clear, HP values of everything looked the same. My best guess is they're simply experienced from doing it on NA/JP servers before rather than some fresh group. Ninja shows his gear at the end and he's i190 and the total damage they did matches the fight anyway (13:10 timer and letting all the dolls explode lets their ~6400-ish DPS match the fight). Damage taken from things looked pretty normal (aka, MCH eats a pretty awful 8k-ish CZero, 24k Jagd Dolls so Reducible values are where they should be) too.
Just really well executed and they all know what they're doing.
Just really well executed and they all know what they're doing.
Reddit mentioned this as an alternative to WTFast for people with lag: http://mudfish.net/. Apparently you pay for the amount of data you use on it, and ~$5 gets you 30GB. Since FFXIV doesn't use much data that could last months if that's all you use it for. Someone try it and let me know how it works. Lag has been killing people I play with lately.
One of the "China edition not same" arguments wasn't Manipulator had less hp/did less damage, but that the player calculations on damage must not be the same. People just having trouble believing they put out that much dps in 190.
I think it's legit though, just perfect group composition with experienced/skilled players.
I think it's legit though, just perfect group composition with experienced/skilled players.
Chinese ACT padding the DPS numbers!
Well, at least that's an argument that makes more sense than the numbers not lining up. If the video ever just plays normally, though, that's not too hard to debunk? I mean ... the numbers are there after all.
can I call shenanigans on them having like a billion pots though. is that really like 300 Draconian pots on the Ninja.
Yeah, it took me like an hour-ish to watch the first time :|
I'm thinking of getting into ARR again and then deciding from there whether or not to get Heavensward. This is probably a weird question and a weird comparison but here it goes since this is the only MMO I've ever played. In Dragon Age: Inquisition, I fucking loved using a Rift Mage. It had so much fun with the crowd control and the debuffs and stacking spells on spells on spells. I guess the crowd control and support aspect of it appealed to me. I felt invincible. What classes are like that in this game? I tried Monk but after the 30 day trial I had no desire to go back to it even though it was kinda fun.
There's really no job like that in FFXIV. Crowd control is not a heavy aspect of the game (in PvE at least), neither is debuffing enemies. Most classes get one or two real debuffs but no class is built around it. Absolute closest thing is probably SMN but if you are wanting to play it like a Rift Mage in DA you will be disappointed. They use debuffs but mainly for just damage, not a lot of real status effects to heavily weaken enemies.
I didn't think so, reading up on it more. I guess the next best thing would be something that's like a fast-paced support class or something that just nukes shit. Scholar sounds like the former if I'm not mistaken.
if you want to nuke stuff Black mage would be it .
I can honestly see myself liking Dragoon more than Bard. I wonder if I should switch...
I'd have to buy new gear with eso/law and possibly get a Thordan weapon, so that's a reason against. And I'd have to deal with these horrible DPS queues levelling to 60 again. But I'm enjoying it so far plus it's so rare that I'd otherwise get to use LB, and that's kinda cool. Haha. Hmm
I'd have to buy new gear with eso/law and possibly get a Thordan weapon, so that's a reason against. And I'd have to deal with these horrible DPS queues levelling to 60 again. But I'm enjoying it so far plus it's so rare that I'd otherwise get to use LB, and that's kinda cool. Haha. Hmm
If we go by trends in new raid patch, yes.
God damn I hate passive aggressive Healers who are also aggressive in that they force me to grab larger mobs than normal. Like, I will grab mobs together, I don't need help doing it. Or like they won't even give me a moment to breathe before the boss before they decide to attack it to just start it.
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truly a tragedy
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/41t3l5/a_chinese_group_cleared_a4s_in_just_4_days_after/
Le reddit thread on the China A4S clear.
Le reddit thread on the China A4S clear.
Reminder that launch A4S is impossible with Ravana weapons.
Yeah, I already thought that it might be useful for Raw Intuition. Will probably replace Second Wind with it.
Well, the Fantasia potion included with the Collector's edition costs around 6-7 on the Mogstation (depends on how many you buy at once) and the Griffin mount is pretty cool imo. The Cecil helm and the Kain minion are nice but nothing special. So, if you want a Fantasia anyway I'd say go for it, otherwise it probably depends on whether you want the Griffin mount or not.