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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| The Midas Touch
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Ran around summoning various dummies on various jobs and harassing Krael. Can confirm the following:
- Each job gets its own dummy. This is for both huge differences (MNK vs MCH), and tiny ones (MCH vs BRD, the A4S dummies have a like 2k HP difference. Also WHM dummy slightly harder than AST dummy.)
--MCH A4S Dummy was 212,160 HP. A5S dummy has 231,520 HP. A8S has 275,480. So A5S is a 100DPS jump over 4, and 8 is a 246 DPS jump over 5. It's hard to draw real raid conclusions from any of this--three minute fight DPS doesn't translate well to raid DPS, so none of the targets here are likely to be real-world numbers.
-- The Sephirot EX dummies appear to be identical with the A4S dummies. So either Sep's DPS check is crazy, the A4S dummies are low, or weird things. But same HP down to the digit on DRG and MCH.
- Each job gets its own dummy. This is for both huge differences (MNK vs MCH), and tiny ones (MCH vs BRD, the A4S dummies have a like 2k HP difference. Also WHM dummy slightly harder than AST dummy.)
--MCH A4S Dummy was 212,160 HP. A5S dummy has 231,520 HP. A8S has 275,480. So A5S is a 100DPS jump over 4, and 8 is a 246 DPS jump over 5. It's hard to draw real raid conclusions from any of this--three minute fight DPS doesn't translate well to raid DPS, so none of the targets here are likely to be real-world numbers.
-- The Sephirot EX dummies appear to be identical with the A4S dummies. So either Sep's DPS check is crazy, the A4S dummies are low, or weird things. But same HP down to the digit on DRG and MCH.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
Well I learned I suck, I failed the DRG dummy for the normal alexander. Time to get good and really learn this thing inside and out.
That's the problem I have now.
On one hand I learned some new things about SMN that I want to test tomorrow on a longer parse to see if it's better than what I usually do. So they're good for actually teaching in the sense that they give you an arbitrary goal to hit. If you don't hit it then you should reexamine your playstyle, gear, etc. As for whether or not they're meaningful in any way for raids... not so sure.
The WHM dummy seems kinda pointless. Where am I ever going to be wasting that much MP doing DPS, for that long? I guess it's a nice hypothetical or something but... I dunno
It really threw me off the first time I heard her. Voice didn't seem to fit the potato body.
Buuut I'm starting to like it.
It really threw me off the first time I heard her. Voice didn't seem to fit the potato body.
Buuut I'm starting to like it.
If anything it was me harassing people as I went around asking random strangers what their trial was. Science tho, science. If anyone else has numbers I wouldn't mind seeing them, just to see the "hierarchy" that SE develops with.
For example; We also learned that, to the surprise of literally everyone, DPS expectations go WAR > DRK > PLD. In the case of Thordan EX the dummy test is roughly 780, 726, 699 dps needed respectively. Who would of thought.
For example; We also learned that, to the surprise of literally everyone, DPS expectations go WAR > DRK > PLD. In the case of Thordan EX the dummy test is roughly 780, 726, 699 dps needed respectively. Who would of thought.
That's really all they need to be I think, a goal and way for players to test themselves or improve without needing a parser.
If that was the plan then mission accomplished. I'm definitely a fan of them.
My only complaint about SSS, aside from the frame rate on PS4, is that you can't just do it from the duty finder. Kind of a drag going all the way to Idyllshire and then the Hinterlands, just to use it once. Or at the very least, it's a pain that you can't do another challenge without backing out and rejoining again
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Only did Main story quests today and the two new dungeons Antitower and Amdapor Hard mode. Loved antitower but Amdapor was a bit disappointing. Fully expected Diabolos to appear somewhere but eh. I did a trial roulette tonight and got Sephirot...... and it went horrible. I didn't even want to do it until tomorrow. SE love to troll, lol. Can't wait to try Midas tomorrow and Sephirot for real. Sephirot fight is probably my worst nightmare.... given how much I hate Titan.
Diabolos is doing Void Ark stuff, he wouldn't be in Lost City. The whole point of it was it's the dungeon after Diabolos left.
KZXcellent
Member
I haven't been this engaged with the main story of XIV since Before the Fall. They really outdid themselves this time.
The friendly battle with Raubahn is probably my favorite solo encounter in the game now.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I did figure he was going to be the major boss of the void ark series eventually, yeah. I expected a tease that showed how he got out of Amdapor though. Not that it matters but I felt the dungeon was pretty bland overall. I'm still wondering what they are doing with Ferdiad, tbh.
It makes you want to resub right?
Got up to A8 tonight. The whole ride was fantastic, I absolutely enjoy Midas more than Gordias when it comes to first impressions. I spent an hour on A8 with some people from my FC, and we couldn't get it down. I was pretty happy with the difficulty cause this will get some of the less experienced members to get some good practice and improve on their skills. When I realized that there was no way were going to beat it with some many repeated deaths and the fight wasn't going to let us get away with it, I was definitely amped.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I feel like they completely failed with the last boss of antitower though. It was an attempt to show how many people actually know the fight from FFIV but then SE ruins it by making the generic HW boss theme override it. They should have kept the whole Calcabrina theme or at least had a remix going.
New story content is done already? @.@;
New story content is usually pretty short, 2-3 hours even watching cutscenes.
I'll just keep watching from afar--just a stranger on the outside looking in...
1.5 more levels to Swiftcast and then I'm DONE with Thaumaturge. Going to take CON to 15 to unlock SCH, then SCH to 34 to unlock Eye For an Eye. After that, I'll choose between WHM and SCH. Sucks that I have to choose between the two when I just want to play Astrologian....
1.5 more levels to Swiftcast and then I'm DONE with Thaumaturge. Going to take CON to 15 to unlock SCH, then SCH to 34 to unlock Eye For an Eye. After that, I'll choose between WHM and SCH. Sucks that I have to choose between the two when I just want to play Astrologian....
cultureculture
Member
So good.
(Thanks Worst Linkshell for the aetherstones.
)It essentially does nothing, especially compared to much better secondary stats (crit rate, determination, skill speed). I don't have the numbers to hand, but essentially putting points into parry gives very little return (i.e. you still rarely parry anything) whereas points in the other stats give fairly significant bonuses.
In other news, someone did some gifs of all the new /vpose and /bstance emotes (male & female)
http://ashlinfarblade.tumblr.com/post/139853830591/vpose-for-both-male-and-female-all-jobs-thanks
http://ashlinfarblade.tumblr.com/post/139879716231/male-and-female-bstance-thanks-folkenface
These are unlocked through the MSQ in 3.2. They're awesome (except SCH/SMN and maybe BRD)
Nothing more amusing than attacking her while she has her shield up and literally having her shit attacks at you.
DarknessTear
Banned
Yeah, it was stupidly easy.
Has anyone pre-ordered a soundtrack cd from the store before? If so, do you have any idea how they handle shipping notifications? I have the Heavensward soundtrack on pre-order (EU) but despite being released today my order just shows as "Pre-order confirmed". I want my awesome music now ;_;
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Not really liking Orchestrion a lot. They tried to make it sound like an old jukebox rather then just something that plays music when you enter your house. The sound is directional, so if the right side of your character is towards the box you only hear sound through the right side of your headphones. It's very distracting moving around the house and the sound keeps changing what ear you hear it through. They also made the sound quality pretty poor. They already have high quality tracks recorded obviously, so it's like they had someone spend development time to make it worse.
Both dungeons were easy. But, the atmosphere, bosses, and music were both really cool. I like how the Amdapor city hard music is basically Amdapor city: Piano collections. Also they get a huge amount of credit from me for bringing back one of my favorite fights from the 16-bit FF days in Antitower.
SliceSabre
Banned
Why is Sephirot's 2nd phase theme so god damn good? Love how the music always feels like it matches the tempo of the battles you're during.
She is the hand that rocks the cradle
The wind that breaks the bough and leaves you to die!
And then she leaves you to die!
And then she leaves you to die...
Still haven't beaten it though due to people getting confused and dying when he does that orb attack or getting blown off.
She is the hand that rocks the cradle
The wind that breaks the bough and leaves you to die!
And then she leaves you to die!
And then she leaves you to die...
Still haven't beaten it though due to people getting confused and dying when he does that orb attack or getting blown off.
This posted? Another 5 hour maintenance tomorrow
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/dec5dc485fd2ae80b73cb088bde964a3a969825b
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/dec5dc485fd2ae80b73cb088bde964a3a969825b
tiggerkiddo
Member
HM Lost City is just as pretty as before but the bosses were zzzzzz. Antitower had the more interesting ones, especially the last one. So glad they kept the same sort of music for that boss, it's still just as creepy as it was in FFIV.
Guess I'll take a stab at Alex Midas tonight or just try and unlock some of those new master crafter books, that is quite a few scrips needed for them
Guess I'll take a stab at Alex Midas tonight or just try and unlock some of those new master crafter books, that is quite a few scrips needed for them
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Yeah, I honestly felt Antitower was very easy. Didn't even wipe once and neither in Amdapor Hard mode. I honestly expected to wipe but I guess people figured out the mechanics very easily. At least the mechanics were interesting though! I think the Calcabrina fight could do with the whole theme even when the Calca and brina fuse. That fight should be fun with A PLD, WHM, MNK, and DRG, if you know what I mean
Glendemonium
Member
The queue time to get in Anti tower was like 15 min, on day one. I know a large chunk of players took the day off or no job/school whatever cleared it within minutes of launch but that was no excuse for the queue to be this long. I was under the impression tanks all across the servers ragequit after seeing the damage nerf for themselves.
Unless the thirst for Alex is that big.
It sucks as bow mage too but once you know the boss rotation you can plan ahead since he doesn't do anything random.
Fight is also extremely lenient. We cleared with 2-3 people dead in the final phase both times we did it.
Yeah, it's interesting that they tried that but I agree it's ultimately distracting. I have to think of a way to optimize its positioning within our house to minimize that because it's going to drive me crazy when I'm running around.
I'm pretty happy with the training dummies so far. I'd still like to see an in-game metric for either clearing each one or something like your best time for clearing them. Also once HP totals for all of the dummies are compiled like Angary is kind of doing (for science) it'll be a very good metric I think for at the very least rotation purposes.