I remember being able to skip the second set of adds and drainage tethers in A3N if your group's DPS is high enough but that's about it.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| The Midas Touch
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Straight ignoring the missiles in A1N was never a winning proposition, neither was ignoring the tether between the bosses for any considerable amount of time. A2 was an add boss so mechanics didn't matter as much because the real fear in an add boss is the final enrage timer and I honestly can't remember if normal had one and if it did then I know I've never seen it even with all the shit groups I've been in.
What could you ignore?
In A2N I recall some groups just ignoring the gobwalker mounts. Similarly I recall some groups allowing the two bosses in A1N to get stacks so they could AoE limit break them more easily. Since the stacks fell off anyway failing that mechanic wasn't the end of the world. I also recall several runs where missiles hit the ground multiple times in A1N and people still cleared just fine.
Admittedly these were all miserable runs, however the fact that people could either ignore or outright fail mechanics multiple times and still clear, I feel is still a valid point.
irfaanator
Banned
when am I beating you in sf5?
Yeah, we ended up doing the bring them together for AOE LB strat in my group since our gear was a mishmosh of unupgraded/upgraded law and not everyone had Ravana weapons yet, so the AOE LB let us beat the enrage on .5.
Our group's way better now and waaaaaay better geared relative to now than we were at the start of Gordias.
I mean, I fail to see what that says about anything in comparison to 2nd alexander. You can also fail every single jail mechanic in A7N and still clear. Keeping the bosses close to do the final aoe limit break that kills them is hardly ignoring a mechanic and in applicable gear, letting those missiles hit the ground two or three times meant an enrage for most groups pretty easily. I also don't recall and also doubt people were just straight ignoring the gobtank and just eating bombs all day.
While I do agree with the point you're making overall, this is totally how most my first few runs went. It was only after people figured out the vuln thing that it changed. Sort of.
That's the only point I was unsure of, I even said so
I never tried ignoring bombs but I figured the debuff was still real if you let it stack and knowing most melee, trying to just move away from bombs for that whole fight sounded like something that wouldn't fly with most groups.Edit: and by unsure, I mean to say I didn't remember.
Genuinely didn't know Powerman5000 still toured.
Has SE been sued by Disney yet for basically lifting This is Halloween's tune almost 1:1 for Good King Mog?
Lol it's not that close. Might sounds similar, but it's just a jaunty orchestral version of the moogle theme from FFV onward. Dunno if the theme was in Secret of Mana since they were in the game too.
That's the only point I was unsure of, I even said so
Edit: and by unsure, I mean to say I didn't remember.
Oh, I know, was more just adding my anecdotal evidence from the first week since you mentioned you weren't sure about it. It was a lot of "why bother when it's survivable anyway?" and mostly just a "Someone will need to in Savage probably?" and the vuln stacking for damage.
Works for place too. In case you really need to place the faerie on top of the tank so it can die to cleaves.
What's hilarious about this music thing is it shows people who are ignorant of a song's origins assume it's ripping off anything that sounds similar to what they've heard before. For instance, King Mog's theme, AKA an updated version of the same track from FFV, which came out before Nightmare Before Christmas.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I see a lot where people say a song ripped off another song, then people who play instruments/read or write music/know shit come in and say why they are wrong and people get pissed at being told they are wrong because they don't know anything about music besides what they like hearing.
I think this is what you mean?When you first take your airship out of your home city. It's a great moment!
Never, hue hue hue
I am forcing myself to play Karin instead of Ryu and I still need to actually learn how to play her online rather than getting wins with sweeps, random kicks, and qcb + p hail mary's
Yup, bingo. Listening to the retronauts uematsu episode right now.
With the dolls hitting, I'd love for the village / cave of mist and the mist dragon battle to be put in xiv somehow.
Edit: I'll take on anyone in SFV 😎
Btw we have a YouTube channel? https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCNnscrPfsUswwrarb4GH6IA
SliceSabre
Banned
Brute Justice is a fucking bully.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Sephirot was a pretty crazy fight but I can only the madness that is EX. Gonna have to try that this weekend.
Also it taught me who did Turn 13 and who did not.
Also it taught me who did Turn 13 and who did not.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Lmao, everytime I would get Nevereap I would shout something because I hated that dungeon so much. I HEARD YOU LIKE TORNADOES. I will proceed to cry if I get it on roulette someday.
I thought this exact same thing.
SliceSabre
Banned
Beat Sephirot via DF. Damn that was a ton of fun to beat. Can't wait to play EX.
I've crafted like 10 Orchestrions for free the last two days.
Now to craft blue scrips for days
Hey now I paid you for mine and just accept the fact the you're the Orchestrion guy. We really need to send our airship out to get us Red moko Grass, I'm almost 60 crp so I need to start making us Grade 3 orchestrion rolls soon.
I kind of wish they had it so the FC orchestrion could have songs loaded onto it that everyone can access not just the person using it. Also the song Sport of Kings (chocobo racing theme) matches perfect with the step dance.
Yup, no issues here.
Fine for me.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Ultros is just bad. I just spent 3 hours wiping to purple and green circles in Sephirot EX, and a diagram was even provided to show the party where they needed to be and it still does not work out.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Woah who's that other PLD you were playing with?
Probably the best PLD player I've ever seen, no joke.
Skipping the second purple/green circle set is my goal every pull (we're bad and die a lot lololol.) Even when it goes smoothly I'm still holding my breath so I'd rather just not do it.
Figuring this stuff out is fun, though. Lots of actually paying attention to the attack names on damage, trying to figure out who died from what, Final phase is good times and me dying to my own stupidity a lot.
Ultros is bad, we're bad, a good time for all!
PhillipCostigan
Member
was actually kind of hyped to log on today and play but then maintenance and I was sad
legendaryskitch
Member
I really like Stone, Sea, Sky but it really points out that I suck at my rotation. My item level is only 148 but I feel like I should be able to beat the basic level if it's based on the Singularity Reactor like I heard and I have beaten before easily. I've only been level 60 for a little bit of time due to a longer break I took from the game. I'm a DRG and I can barely get it down to 17% HP. My rotation isn't perfect because I think Geirskogul is stupid and I'm still getting used to using it along with the other BotD moves. I just feel like I should be doing better but I don't see how I can win with my current equipment. MAYBE I can get to 12-15% but I dunno about win
Zomba13
Member
Such a fun fight. Will probably be a while before I can try EX, I'm 1 iLVL away but also haven't cleared any HW EX primal (not even good old Bisex).
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Managed to get Voidiark done before the maintenance.
Now I'm only 2 ilevels away from trying out the new Alexander stuff.
Now I'm only 2 ilevels away from trying out the new Alexander stuff.
This is the great part about SSS. It gets you asking questions about your play style which can lead to improvement. Hopefully they keep it going in the future and expand on it further (longer time limits plz).
UpsideDownAce
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The optimal rotation for drg to maximize geirskogul uses requires about 600 skill speed. Just keep practicing. Drg is basically a rigid rotation. Check these out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyo8fdmmglk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kraM1RN8mtw
I don't think the story Singularity Reactor is in Stone, Sky, Sea (someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember seeing it there) so I don't expect you to be able to do it at your current item level. (It's also possible when you did it you were running with people significantly higher in item level than is intended for it and they made up for your lesser DPS.)
The important thing is you're asking questions, and that's a great thing. The actual Dragoon rotation is pretty simple in concept and just requires optimization.
The how to Dragoon per second thread on the official forums is also excellent. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/261773-How-to-Dragoon-per-Second-A-DPS-Paradigm