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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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studyguy

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Oh farmed T4 last night for kicks and to get some mats for new items.
It's crazy how stupid easy that instance is now. Everything just explodes.
 

iammeiam

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Oh farmed T4 last night for kicks and to get some mats for new items.
It's crazy how stupid easy that instance is now. Everything just explodes.

How many tanks did you have?

The goal is to bring as many tanks as possible and still have the healers stealing aggro because nobody is actually tanking anything.
 

studyguy

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How many tanks did you have?

The goal is to bring as many tanks as possible and still have the healers stealing aggro because nobody is actually tanking anything.

Like half the team was tanks lol
I swear guys, I'm super close to my mount! Let me tank this time!
 

plake

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Like half the team was tanks lol
I swear guys, I'm super close to my mount! Let me tank this time!

Wat. And even then you passed what's essentially a DPS check? I guess the DPS check kind of defeats its purpose since that many tanks will simply never die. Also I guess new weapons and stuff made this a lot easier.
 

studyguy

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Wat. And even then you passed what's essentially a DPS check? I guess the DPS check kind of defeats its purpose since that many tanks will simply never die. Also I guess new weapons and stuff made this a lot easier.

You can easily pull 300+ DPS as a tank in T4 now with echo + ilvl gear. It's ridiculous how low the bar is there. No mechanics, everyone just outright blows up the mobs.
Actual DPS jobs there hit like trucks.
 

WolvenOne

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You can easily pull 300+ DPS as a tank in T4 now with echo + ilvl gear. It's ridiculous how low the bar is there. No mechanics, everyone just outright blows up the mobs.
Actual DPS jobs there hit like trucks.

At this point, to kinda-sorta recreate the original difficulty of T4 with 20% echo and current gear, you'd have to four man it.
 

iammeiam

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Wat. And even then you passed what's essentially a DPS check? I guess the DPS check kind of defeats its purpose since that many tanks will simply never die. Also I guess new weapons and stuff made this a lot easier.

You can do 3 WAR, 3 PLD, 2 SCH T4 in about 5 minutes. Nobody came close to dying, but I think there may have been TP problems for the WARs and I was almost dry by the end.

I really want to try 7 tank/1 healer next. Farming is boring, doing things the game never intended is not.
 

studyguy

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At this point, to kinda-sorta recreate the original difficulty of T4 with 20% echo and current gear, you'd have to four man it.

We had a guy bow out early and were annoyed that we couldn't just enter 7 man. You really could just go in with half a party and still probably make it no sweat.
 

orion434

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About to start the Materia-Train again :) I have to restock my supply, might even start making MasterCraft since they are 700K each on Ultros... gonna be funny not wanting to waste a desynth to get a Fieldcraft III lol

I'm at the final stage for my Novus! So Excited!
 

WolvenOne

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We had a guy bow out early and were annoyed that we couldn't just enter 7 man. You really could just go in with half a party and still probably make it no sweat.

Biggest issue with a 4 Man, is that you'd have to have one of the DPS tank things. I mean, unless two DPS can clear the DPS checks, so one tank isn't holding 2 dreads 4 bots, and a Spinner Rook in that final phase.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but that sounds like that'd be a bit much to endure, even with Echo.
 

iammeiam

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Biggest issue with a 4 Man, is that you'd have to have one of the DPS tank things. I mean, unless two DPS can clear the DPS checks, so one tank isn't holding 2 dreads 4 bots, and a Spinner Rook in that final phase.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but that sounds like that'd be a bit much to endure, even with Echo.

I believe in Titan-Egi
 

Jayhawk

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The main reason to farm T4 is to build a collection of Battledance IV materias to fully-meld your DRG with capped Parry. Tank DRGs are the past, present, and future.
 

WolvenOne

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The main reason to farm T4 is to build a collection of Battledance IV materias to fully-meld your DRG with capped Parry. Tank DRGs are the past, present, and future.

Not, sure, it kidding.

I mean to be fair, Keen Flurry gives DRG's a great parry rate even without additional parry, but still...
 

Demoskinos

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So I'm a BLM and I've been toying around with rotations to try to feel out if I can squeeze more out of my rotation as I'll be jumping into Final Coil soon. Right now I've got this... and of course this is not including any Thunderclouds or Fire starters that might proc

Thunder II > Fire III > Fire I x4 > Blizzard III > Thunder II > Transpose > Fire III > Fire I x4

I figured out that if I do this even without any food I'm left with EXACTLY 79 MP which is exactly what Blizzard III costs with astral fire up allowing me to continue the rotation from there by casting Blizzard III at the end of the second set of Fire I's

I'm just curious of there are any other optimizations I might be missing? I try to use Manawall/Manaward to avoid having to move when I can and when I absolutely have to move I'll use scathe until I can afford to stop and restart my rotation.

Can any Final Coil worthy BLM's give any more pointers?
 

Sorian

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So I'm a BLM and I've been toying around with rotations to try to feel out if I can squeeze more out of my rotation as I'll be jumping into Final Coil soon. Right now I've got this... and of course this is not including any Thunderclouds or Fire starters that might proc

Thunder II > Fire III > Fire I x4 > Blizzard III > Thunder II > Transpose > Fire III > Fire I x4

I figured out that if I do this even without any food I'm left with EXACTLY 79 MP which is exactly what Blizzard III costs with astral fire up allowing me to continue the rotation from there by casting Blizzard III at the end of the second set of Fire I's

I'm just curious of there are any other optimizations I might be missing? I try to use Manawall/Manaward to avoid having to move when I can and when I absolutely have to move I'll use scathe until I can afford to stop and restart my rotation.

Can any Final Coil worthy BLM's give any more pointers?

You should only transpose into fire III if you have a firestarter proc ready. I believe it's a DPS loss to slow cast a fire III. Also, I open with thunder III. No real difference but I find it to be a good habit so that I don't pour too much enmity on at the beginning. Probably helps with timing too since you don't want to lose ticks and you waste more time in the opener because you have to slow cast fire 3.

Edit: also, I suck at it myself, but train yourself to use aetherial manipulation to move around. It gets you less travel time and more casting time.
 

kiryogi

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Not impossible but why would you do that to yourself? Stacking classes in general is usually not the best idea.

It's the build of our static! They had a BLM and I'm a BLM and they accepted me! Rocked T10, currently in T11 only 2 days in. Not liking that Weapons node much, but we're managing. Just wondering how realistic things are. So basically, handicapping ourselves, but still doable at least.

So I'm a BLM and I've been toying around with rotations to try to feel out if I can squeeze more out of my rotation as I'll be jumping into Final Coil soon. Right now I've got this... and of course this is not including any Thunderclouds or Fire starters that might proc

Thunder II > Fire III > Fire I x4 > Blizzard III > Thunder II > Transpose > Fire III > Fire I x4

I figured out that if I do this even without any food I'm left with EXACTLY 79 MP which is exactly what Blizzard III costs with astral fire up allowing me to continue the rotation from there by casting Blizzard III at the end of the second set of Fire I's

I'm just curious of there are any other optimizations I might be missing? I try to use Manawall/Manaward to avoid having to move when I can and when I absolutely have to move I'll use scathe until I can afford to stop and restart my rotation.

Can any Final Coil worthy BLM's give any more pointers?

What Sorian said. You should only ever transpose if you have a firestarter proc or from Flare if you end up having to use it and not have convert.
 

Sorian

Banned
It's the build of our static! They had a BLM and I'm a BLM and they accepted me! Rocked T10, currently in T11 only 2 days in. Not liking that Weapons node much, but we're managing. Just wondering how realistic things are. So basically, handicapping ourselves, but still doable at least.

Are those the only two casters? If so, then I doubt it's any issue. It's not optimal but you'll still clear content.
 

kiryogi

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Are those the only two casters? If so, then I doubt it's any issue. It's not optimal but you'll still clear content.

Ya. It's BLM/BLM/WHM/SCH/MNK/BRD/WAR/PLD. Just the fact that the Weapons node is magic resistant is making me ponder it. But we're cleaning up the phase good. Gotta down the Egg before 2 hour and that'll be progress.
 

Ken

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Ya. It's BLM/BLM/WHM/SCH/MNK/BRD/WAR/PLD. Just the fact that the Weapons node is magic resistant is making me ponder it. But we're cleaning up the phase good. Gotta down the Egg before 2 hour and that'll be progress.

I know an all physical group can clear T11 so it's whatever.
 
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