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Fitness |OT6| Defying gravity, Quest madness, and Muscle Shaming
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TheOctodad
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The food I listed above.
Breakfast total cost - maybe $3
Lunch total cost - $5ish
Dinner - $3ish
TheOctodad
Member
on it!
also big ramy's quads
No gear right?
I don't even want to look like that ... ever.
Now this on the other hand:
FallingEdge
Member
No gear right?
I don't even want to look like that ... ever.
Now this on the other hand:
all natural!
And yeah, leaned out powerlifter look is fantastico
Yeah, I was looking at that dinner menu thinking a dozen eggs can be had for $1.29-$2 and I'm eating $0.59 Chobani plain Greek yogurt right now. The protein is there and it's inexpensive, but for those who aren't used to consuming a protein-heavy diet they might not even know where to look for those foods.
Being able to cook makes life easier too. You can down raw eggs, but making a nice scramble with veggies breaks up the monotony.
Anyone else find it amusing that this photo is simply labeled jackedchinese.jpg?No gear right?
I don't even want to look like that ... ever.
Now this on the other hand:
rokkerkory
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I always shoot for 1.5x my body weight in terms of protein intake / day.
I don't mind if it's overshooting it, rather that than undershooting. It's been working in terms of helping a bit to gain muscle with added benefits of getting my calories up.
FallingEdge
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1.5 is too much for me. I usually just shoot for 1g per lbm so I'm going for 210 ish a day. If I get more, then great.
TheOctodad
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I'm a decent cook, but I'm lazy most days. Generally I just cut up a sweet potato, add chili powder and cayenne pepper. Then slice up some bacon and add 4 eggs. Mix it all together in a skillet and then add sriacha. Awesome mix of carbs, protein and fat and it's REALLY good.
Cost about $3 total and is super filling.
rokkerkory
Member
I think it depends on your goal... I want to gain as much as I can. Thus 1.5x body weight.
If I were to maintain, then 1x body weight.
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Deleted member 47027
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Yeah I go for 1x. 1.5x would be a nightmare (270 atm) - but definitely doable. I've had over 350g days. Those were some fat fucking days too..
FallingEdge
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There have been studies stating that .6 to .8 is optimal and anything more is unnecessary unless you are on gear. And even then, it might not be that much of a difference. Nothing wrong with 1-1.5 though.
Oh yeah. No way in hell I can do that much. At least consistency I can't.
260ish atm. Yeah, it would be close to 400. I'm getting a minimum of around 210-230 a day. More if it happens but not trying to.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You probably don't even need that much. I doubt I even hit that anymore. I'd venture I'm around 140-150g and I weigh 240lbs.
Yea, the post was aimed more towards the new person who was sweating over having to ingest that much protein. You really don't need to, the 1.5x bodyweight is correct, except you're supposed to go by kg not lbs, so I'm pretty sure you're shooting waaay over the needed amount.
Breakfast for dinner is the best. I got hooked on it because I used to intermittently fast so I didn't eat before noon for years, but I still liked breakfast. To this day I still eat scrambled eggs 2x-3x nights a week.
TheOctodad
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If I remember right studies show the correct amount is actually ABOUT .7 - .8 per lbs. People find it easier to just say 1g per lbs. This would also fit with the "about 1.5x per kg."
ThLunarian
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Well I went to the gym and it was absolutely slam packed at 12:30pm. Not sure if that's normal, or if the snow forecast for tomorrow has something to do with it. I decided to wait a few hours, and went to Walmart instead. I found some protein powder that was much more reasonably priced than I expected, and I just tried some and it actually tasted pretty good mixed with milk.
I think I'll stick with the "two shakes in the morning and two shakes in the evening" method and fill in the rest with chicken/salmon/etc.
One more question (might be in the OP, but I didn't see it): Is the "eat about 1 g of protein per pound of body weight" guideline meant to be followed every single day, or only on workout days?
I think I'll stick with the "two shakes in the morning and two shakes in the evening" method and fill in the rest with chicken/salmon/etc.
One more question (might be in the OP, but I didn't see it): Is the "eat about 1 g of protein per pound of body weight" guideline meant to be followed every single day, or only on workout days?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
People also need to realize the more carbs you eat the less protein you need.
I am about to say this calculator is full of shit.
I've used it a couple of times and yesterday I used it to calculate how to lose 10 lbs in 4 months and according to it, I should eat a shitton on workout days, which are 4 or 5 out of 7.
Today I followed the plan through and I haven't eaten more in that last month in a single day like today and that's for losing weight... which I've succeeded at only slighlty, by eating a lot less each day for the last 3 weeks....
I suspect the calculator overestimates the "workout" element, or maybe my "workout" is not their "workout" (weight training vs some 1 hour cardio???) dunno, but it sucks, It's otherwise a nice tool.
Is that Lu Xiaojun? Because I wants that build :FNo gear right?
I don't even want to look like that ... ever.
Now this on the other hand:
When you throw out these insanely cheap food prices, you do realize that not everyone here lives in the US, and that food prices are different across countries?
I mean, a dozen eggs is between $4 - $6. Chicken breasts are around $20 per kilo (so maybe $9 per pound). Milk is $1.50 per litre, so about $6 per gallon. This is for Sweden. So it isn't necessarily all that easy to get a lot of protein for cheap. I tend to go for cuts that are cheaper, like pork shoulder, beef chuck, and they require a lot more in terms of planning and cooking, since they're tougher cuts and require more cooking time.
Whey is also much more expensive here, I paid $70 for 4 kg (9 lbs) of pretty standard stuff.
Eating big sucks here.
I mean, a dozen eggs is between $4 - $6. Chicken breasts are around $20 per kilo (so maybe $9 per pound). Milk is $1.50 per litre, so about $6 per gallon. This is for Sweden. So it isn't necessarily all that easy to get a lot of protein for cheap. I tend to go for cuts that are cheaper, like pork shoulder, beef chuck, and they require a lot more in terms of planning and cooking, since they're tougher cuts and require more cooking time.
Whey is also much more expensive here, I paid $70 for 4 kg (9 lbs) of pretty standard stuff.
Eating big sucks here.
Here's another story why some trainers aren't shit. Me and a buddy both novices were warming up with 60kg squats. Trainer comes over asking if he could borrow the bar and rack for a second to show somebody how to squat and lunge. He proceeds to struggle on the squat then for whatever reason decides to tiptoe out of the rack to lunge. He lunges and his back knee slams straight onto the floor. Struggles to come up and wobbles the 20kg weight bounces once and then straight onto my foot 
then he asks me why there aren't any clips on?
then he asks me why there aren't any clips on?Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Again. You better get on a shit load of gear.
That's actually cheap for whey. I paid almost 115 for 10lbs.
This is so true, most people are so obsessed with protein consumption, you don't even need that much. I usually shoot for 1g/lbm and that's probably overdoing it too.
Might not be all that important right now, but you should also make sure you meet your caloric needs when you follow a diet. When I first started out then I paid only attention to the protein amount in my diet but I wasn't eating nearly enough calories to meet my daily needs to be able to grow.
If you said you're having problems with eating then I suspect you aren't eating enough either.
And I'd definitely recommend you to start cooking. It's not that hard to buy some chicken/pork fillet, frozen vegetables and some spices to prepare yourself a healthy dinner in 15 min, nor would it be hard to prepare some pasta with ground meat for easy calories/protein, it's really cheap too. Just seek youtube for guidance.
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Deleted member 47027
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Those whey prices are alright. Still getting through some musclepharm, it's slow going though because I fucked up and got vanilla instead of chocolate.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You're eating way too much protein doing this unless you're on shit. You're literally throwing money down the drain. Unless all you're eating is protein shakes.
TheOctodad
Member
Nutrishop has 2 in house proteins that I only buy now. It's not all whey but I don't care about that any more. Peanut butter banana and mint chocolate are hands down the best 2 I've ever tasted. It's about 60 for 6 pounds. So good with half milk and half water. Thirty grams a scoop at 148 calories.
DUFFMCWALIN
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No gear right?
I don't even want to look like that ... ever.
Now this on the other hand:
Ya I would love to look like this guy one day.
Oh. Fuck that then lol. I missed the reasoning behind the post.
Ah, it was pretty hard to tell on my phone. I'll fall back on the stereotype that all Asians look the sameNo, this is Lu Xiaojun
theytookourjobz
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http://youtu.be/uGT7buRYK08
http://youtu.be/8Bf0K-08w4Y
Couple sets of squats today. First at 75% and then a single at 90%. Can any of you big squatters tell me why my right knee comes in and my right leg seems to be weaker than my left? How can I fix that?
http://youtu.be/8Bf0K-08w4Y
Couple sets of squats today. First at 75% and then a single at 90%. Can any of you big squatters tell me why my right knee comes in and my right leg seems to be weaker than my left? How can I fix that?
TheOctodad
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Yah, my point isn't that they are/aren't on gear. My point is that aesthetically, that's much more attractive IMO. Having quads bigger than my torso is past the point of "damn" and into the level of "ugh" for me. I know some people are different though and I respect that, just will never be my goal.
FallingEdge
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Zoe
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Well it should be lean body mass, but not everybody knows that number.
ThLunarian
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Just finished day 1 of the full-body routine in the OP.
My last set of squats I got up to 175 lbs and got through all 5, and I feel like I could've managed a little more weight.
My last set of bench press was up to 125. I got through all 5, but it felt pretty close to the most weight I could do. Not sure.
My one deadlift set was at 155 and I got through all 5. Not really sure how close that is to what I can actually do; it's tough to tell with only one set to draw data from.
My pull-ups were by far the worst. I could only manage 2 at a time at most. I ended up doing 6 total sets of 2-2-2-1.5-1.5-1.
Sort of excited to go back and try again.
How do you mean? I'm going by the guideline in the OP and aiming for about 180g of protein. Each shake is 30, so that leaves 50 that I'm getting from food. That amount of food seems enough to fill me up, and the cost per gram of protein is much smaller for the powder than it is for pretty much any food.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm open to other ideas. I'm completely new at this, so telling me I'm doing something wrong without giving me an alternative isn't very helpful to me.
My last set of squats I got up to 175 lbs and got through all 5, and I feel like I could've managed a little more weight.
My last set of bench press was up to 125. I got through all 5, but it felt pretty close to the most weight I could do. Not sure.
My one deadlift set was at 155 and I got through all 5. Not really sure how close that is to what I can actually do; it's tough to tell with only one set to draw data from.
My pull-ups were by far the worst. I could only manage 2 at a time at most. I ended up doing 6 total sets of 2-2-2-1.5-1.5-1.
Sort of excited to go back and try again.
How do you mean? I'm going by the guideline in the OP and aiming for about 180g of protein. Each shake is 30, so that leaves 50 that I'm getting from food. That amount of food seems enough to fill me up, and the cost per gram of protein is much smaller for the powder than it is for pretty much any food.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm open to other ideas. I'm completely new at this, so telling me I'm doing something wrong without giving me an alternative isn't very helpful to me.
It's his first day so he's testing his starting weight.
second deadlift session in a row that I get a bit dizzy after every set, warm up or otherwise.. and I have to hold from something or lean on the wall on work sets.....is it normal?? I am not even a novice on that lift (as in, I am less than that) so if that's how it is with the shitty weight I am lifting now, I can't imagine when I am actually sorta decent for a beginner...
if unassisted, then that's already more than 90% of beginners will do.
I think you did well today and you seem to want to learn so that your best asset.
don't overthink the protein thing, eat the best you can, train hard and sleep a lot.
if unassisted, then that's already more than 90% of beginners will do.
I think you did well today and you seem to want to learn so that your best asset.
don't overthink the protein thing, eat the best you can, train hard and sleep a lot.
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Deleted member 17706
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Those are some damn good starting numbers. Took me months to get anywhere near that (except for pull-ups--was good at those for some reason).
ThLunarian
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Thanks guys! I like how responsive this community is, eager to offer advice and encouragement, and not judgmental. Glad to be here
cuevas. PhD.
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Thanks guys! I like how responsive this community is, eager to offer advice and encouragement, and not judgmental. Glad to be here
Is this sarcasm
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Deleted member 47027
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Thanks guys! I like how responsive this community is, eager to offer advice and encouragement, and not judgmental. Glad to be here
Don't forget to take your rest days VERY seriously. Rest days are important, no matter how bad you wanna get out there. Be patient, give it time.
Thanks guys! I like how responsive this community is, eager to offer advice and encouragement, and not judgmental. Glad to be here
it's your attitude.
Every now and then there come's a guy who doesn't want to learn but only wants to hear/read what he wants to hear/read. The community reacts (either with diplomacy or very blunt, doesn't matter), the guy gets pissed and leaves.
lol, why? It sounded pretty serious
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Deleted member 47027
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Hey, I'm here to inspire. U mad?
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