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Fitness |OT6| Defying gravity, Quest madness, and Muscle Shaming
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Can I expect a good amount of hypertrophy on that program? I'm not familiar.
FallingEdge
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Don't look at 5/3/1 "not being ideal". Look at it being the program you want to do in your current situation. For many, 5/3/1 is fantastic. For others, they may be wanting more. I'm currently doing it right now but I'm just looking to maintain. Maybe get stronger if it happens. I like the idea of doing 5/3/1 for my main lifts and then just doing whatever the fuck I want afterwards. This may change in a few months but I am going to stick with it for now.
I'm just wondering if it's the right program given the way my goals have changed. I want to maintain and perhaps gain some strength, but outside of that my goals are motivated by vanity. I want a 6-pack and biceps. I'm not willing to ignore the healthy goal of increased strength to do it, but I'm also happy with my 225 bench for reps, 315 squat for reps, and 445 deadlift for reps now to the point where if they increase slower but my body does more of what I want visually, I'll be thrilled.
FallingEdge
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Ah gotcha. Maybe look into Layne Norton's PHAT or some other hypertrophy specific program. Texas Method is focused on strength and will bust your ass on squats.
also, saw this on reddit lol
Yeah I've just gotten to the point where through SS and 5/3/1 my chest is there, back is looking decent, shoulders are good, etc, but my arms don't look like a guy who lifts. I know it's vain but fuck it, I'm allowed to focus on something different for a bit.
also, saw this on reddit lol
I'd cancel my membership, I warm up with 100s for my chest.
False. I was thinking about joining a gym and then saw their DBs stopped at 100 pounds. Deal killer.
I wouldn't be able to do flat DB, incline DB, DB rows, shrugs, ect.... Yeah, I could get by but why should I have to?
My gym has DBs all the way up to 200lbs, even though I'll never use them it's good that the option is there. I have used heavy DBs for flat & incline, and if a gym only had 60s I wouldn't even bother signing up.
rokkerkory
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Ah gotcha. Maybe look into Layne Norton's PHAT or some other hypertrophy specific program. Texas Method is focused on strength and will bust your ass on squats.
also, saw this on reddit lol
what? terrible
FallingEdge
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Was going to say something but you guys got it covered lol.
This is some dumb shit right here.
Ah gotcha. Maybe look into Layne Norton's PHAT or some other hypertrophy specific program. Texas Method is focused on strength and will bust your ass on squats.
also, saw this on reddit lol
Did some research and found out this is a city in Canada.
Fuckin' Canada.
Canada mixes every up. Celcius for temperature, fahrenheit for cooking, meters/km for distance, feet/inches for height, etc. It's all fucked.
Fucking lol Canada.
Was that really necessary?
Yes. When people post silly, blatantly false information in here, they need to be called out on it. We can't have that nonsense in this thread.
Omegasquash
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Christ on a cracker. Anyone ever felt ashamed of being proud of something they feel like they ought to be ashamed of?
Stupid, I know, but this past Saturday I did something I never did before...rep with a pair of 45's on decline. Rep with a pair of 45's on a barbell at all, for that matter. I'm finally at a spot where I'm repping with a pair of 70's on my incline and flat DB bench too.
So I'm mildly ashamed that I'm proud of what I did even though I know I'm LTTP in growing muscle. Onward and upward, however. I've got MUCH farther to go, and now I need to take a step back food and sleep-wise to plan meals and get in bed earlier. Growing muscle hasn't been a problem, but I feel like the 10 lbs I've gained since then is bulking me up a bit much.
Does anyone have any input on gaining lean? Please don't tell me I have to eat chicken and tilapia with broccoli/brown rice for a year. Please.
Stupid, I know, but this past Saturday I did something I never did before...rep with a pair of 45's on decline. Rep with a pair of 45's on a barbell at all, for that matter. I'm finally at a spot where I'm repping with a pair of 70's on my incline and flat DB bench too.
So I'm mildly ashamed that I'm proud of what I did even though I know I'm LTTP in growing muscle. Onward and upward, however. I've got MUCH farther to go, and now I need to take a step back food and sleep-wise to plan meals and get in bed earlier. Growing muscle hasn't been a problem, but I feel like the 10 lbs I've gained since then is bulking me up a bit much.
Does anyone have any input on gaining lean? Please don't tell me I have to eat chicken and tilapia with broccoli/brown rice for a year. Please.
I'm not your friend, buddy.
Close, you gotta eat chicken and kale with broccoli and quinoa for a year.
Everything's relative, celebrate gains because that's what they are, yours alone.
"All alone, just the beat inside my soul"
I wouldn't say any of this is necessary, but it's generally interesting. I would tend to agree with you on principal, but that doesn't invalidate folks who do choose to use heavy dbs by any means. Don't take it personal.
Show me how you're going to do heavy farmer carries with a barbell and we can have this discussion.
These tools serve different purposes.
Agreed, I was really only speaking to his examples of "flat/incline/decline" at those weights or higher when I suggested "in principal". In "reality" it doesn't work that way, farmer carries are a great example as to why. I personally do them with a trap bar, same for shrugs. It is more precarious for me to unrack two 100+ lb dumbbells, even independently, than it is to load the trap bar.
Omegasquash
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I do love kale, it goes well with vinegar and chicken (which is another lunchtime favorite of mine. Quinoa though...I knew eventually I'd have to take the plunge. Might as well do it sooner than later.
Currently, I go to two gyms. Both have 100lbs plus dumbbells and all they do is collect dust. Anecdotal, but still. Few people use them in all the gyms I've been to.
We can have a smart conversation without resorting to "dumb" comments. I said little use, not no use.
How in the hell are you doing farmer carries properly with a bar?
Then have a smart conversation. Don't make blanket false statements.
The squat racks in most gyms go unused as well, with smith machines being busy all the time. Does that mean squat racks are of little use and smith machines fill all those needs?
My buddy and I used the 100s, 105s, 110s, and 130s just yesterday. After we were done a guy came and used the 100s and 110s. The fact that few use them doesn't validate a gym not carrying them. They are very useful and a must at any gym I belong to.
Aggro has been triggered man, might want to limit your context on "we". Again, don't take it personal, it's not on you.
Yo brah
And now I feel silly. I somehow took "trap bar" to mean ez curl bar, and you could see why that'd be confusing!
Yup. It should be a goal for people to need them. I can't wait to need something heavier than 70s when I DB bench and such.
Splash Wave
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Where do you guys put your feet when bench pressing? I've been stalling out between 200-210 (3x5), and I'm looking to tweak my form to make it happen. I notice that, in this video, Omar keeps his on his toes. I've never done this before, so I'm wondering what everyone else here likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jZ3aCVc5HE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jZ3aCVc5HE
I push down with the balls of my feet. When you say you stall at 200-210 for 3x5 do you ever bump it up to 225 or 235 and go for 2 or 3?
Brolic Gaoler
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Again showing why I cannot stand this dude. That is a shitty ass setup and his form is garbage. Not to mention the fact he's not warming up how he's doing the work sets.
He has absolutely no leg drive like that. He's not positioned on his traps and his arch is limp as hell.
dope, thanks for the info. might do 5/3/1 for upper body and something else for legs.
would i have any issues with doing smolov(jr) for bench and squat at the same time?
I agree with Shogun, I'd recommend working on your form and make sure you're positioned on your traps properly, and work on leg drive (assuming you're going for numbers)
ThLunarian
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I'm still a noob at weight lifting.
Today while doing the bench press I noticed that one of my wrists was bending and/or twisting at a weird angle, and I don't think it was good, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it and still be able to lift the bar. Anyone have any tips for this? Or a video you can point me to or something?
Thanks.
Today while doing the bench press I noticed that one of my wrists was bending and/or twisting at a weird angle, and I don't think it was good, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it and still be able to lift the bar. Anyone have any tips for this? Or a video you can point me to or something?
Thanks.
Basically what Jonnie Candito does in his video about leg drive in the bench press. Feet flat on the ground as far back as possible.
You want to be really careful about aggravating your wrists when doing bench press. Seems like you should work on strengthening your forearms as it seems that they're failing and your wrists are failing as a result.
ThLunarian
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That's a bummer. How can I strengthen my forearms? Seems like a difficult body part to isolate. And should I put off bench pressing until then?
FallingEdge
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If you want to do smolov jr bench and squat at the same time, that should be fine but it really is up to you. When I did smolov jr for bench, all I did was bench. Then at the end of the workout I did light delt work and rows. Benching 4 times a week was rough. Especially doing the 3x10.
God Dayumm
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rokkerkory
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Nice... pls don't scare them all away though.
I wish it was that easy. This year's crop has brought in an unusually high amount of D-bags.
FallingEdge
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So with it being my final week at work, everyone is trying to take me out to lunch not to mention the going away party this Thursday.
Welp, guess my diet is out the window this week.
Welp, guess my diet is out the window this week.
I know it's hard for guys like us but you can control your portions. I know you have it in you FE!
rokkerkory
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My gym has filled up as well... weird because I thought the new year's folks would have dropped out by now... maybe it's the gotta look good for summer folks are coming in.
Everyone is pretty nice at my gym though because it's a work gym, so they are professional.
FallingEdge
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Indian Buffet tomorrow and the going away party is at a bar in which the company will pay for all the meals.
All those chicken wings...
imma fit my macros during those meals
pretty much
time to not eat anything for the rest of the day
arnold is awesome
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