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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals

viveks86

Member
Looks a lot better than the previous direct feed video. Does this confirm presence of AA? I keep seeing people criticizing the game for no AA!

Questions:
1) Do they have tracks preset at other times of day? The sun seems to be in your face in every one of them.
2) What is up with the shadow behind the rear wheels of the car? The whole car shadow moves around as the car turns, but there is something else fixed under the car. What is that?
 

nib95

Banned
KTM X-Bow on Sebring Direct Feed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFEdHskMkq4

Dem floodgates!

I know I'm in the minority, but the other two Direct Feed videos released earlier were more impressive to me than this one. Especially Silverstone. In this video the lighting just seems a bit flat, the tree's look poor and the jaggies on the electricity cables (and there's loads of cables every where) are pretty distracting. The Silverstone video looks far more believable and realistic imo.
 

HokieJoe

Member
The only time Turn 10 has ever really listened to painters was when they wanted to know how to get rid of the layer glitch in Forza 2. The only real improvement to the paint editor over the last two games is that you no longer have to paint on the roof of a mini, so I highly doubt they would start listening to community feedback now.


I never understood the inability to put stickers/logos on the top of the windshield. Just a quibble, but still.
 
I really wouldn't mind having EX1 in game, seriously T10, give us some concept cars ;)

peugeot-ex1-electric-car-profile-1024x640.jpg


I also think it's about the time to show us this as well....

nickheidfeld_bmw_nurburgring_nordschleife_2007_karussell.jpg
 

Xanadu

Banned
I know I'm in the minority, but the other two Direct Feed videos released earlier were more impressive to me than this one. Especially Silverstone. In this video the lighting just seems a bit flat, the tree's look poor and the jaggies on the electricity cables (and there's loads of cables every where) are pretty distracting. The Silverstone video looks far more believable and realistic imo.

well the overcast helps, but compared to forza 4s sebring this looks a hell of a lot better
 

LeBoef

Member
Questions:
1) Do they have tracks preset at other times of day? The sun seems to be in your face in every one of them.
2) What is up with the shadow behind the rear wheels of the car? The whole car shadow moves around as the car turns, but there is something else fixed under the car. What is that?

1) fm4 had it, could be also in fm5

I really wouldn't mind having EX1 in game, seriously T10, give us some concept cars ;)


I also think it's about the time to show us this as well....

We had already some concept cars. So maybe....
If nordschleife is really lsaerscanned and ingame, i ll go nuts!
 

nib95

Banned
I really wouldn't mind having EX1 in game, seriously T10, give us some concept cars ;)

peugeot-ex1-electric-car-profile-1024x640.jpg

Swear to you, my jaw physically dropped when I saw this image. And my jaw stayed wide agape for a few seconds at least. Luckily no flies were about.

Please tell me this will eventually be sold commercially. I want it.
 
I know I'm in the minority, but the other two Direct Feed videos released earlier were more impressive to me than this one. Especially Silverstone. In this video the lighting just seems a bit flat, the tree's look poor and the jaggies on the electricity cables (and there's loads of cables every where) are pretty distracting. The Silverstone video looks far more believable and realistic imo.

You think the Alps direct feed was more impressive than this? Believe it or not, I actually think this is the best direct feed game footage we've gotten yet. The track isn't the most interesting, but it just has a really attractive look to it regardless. Maybe it's the lighting, but I like it. The aliasing bothered me initially, but I just started to ignore it (which isn't easy lol), and began to appreciate the other aspects of the game. I see a similar thing going on with this game as was originally the case with Forza 2 on the 360. Turn 10 will make improvements in their follow-up, but for now we still get an incredible sim racer with incredible physics.

And is it just me, or are Turn 10 using AA in the cockpit view? I see almost no aliasing there at all.
 

Xanadu

Banned
You think the Alps direct feed was more impressive than this? Believe it or not, I actually think this is the best direct feed game footage we've gotten yet. The track isn't the most interesting, but it just has a really attractive look to it regardless. Maybe it's the lighting, but I like it. The aliasing bothered me initially, but I just started to ignore it (which isn't easy lol), and began to appreciate the other aspects of the game. I see a similar thing going on with this game as was originally the case with Forza 2 on the 360. Turn 10 will make improvements in their follow-up, but for now we still get an incredible sim racer with incredible physics.

And is it just me, or are Turn 10 using AA in the cockpit view? I see almost no aliasing there at all.

they are using AA in every view
 

viveks86

Member
they are using AA in every view

Yup! There definitely is some AA going on. Not to say there isn't any aliasing, but a lot of edges are very smooth, which would be impossible at 1080p without AA. I need to start correcting people who claim there is no AA.
 
Swear to you, my jaw physically dropped when I saw this image. And my jaw stayed wide agape for a few seconds at least. Luckily no flies were about.

Please tell me this will eventually be sold commercially. I want it.

Yeah it's pretty, I wouldn't mind one as well :) I really like Peugeot concept cars, at least most of them, they all look really stylish ;)

869749-120928-peugeot-onyx.jpg


sr1concept630.jpg


Peugeot-20Cup-Concept-4.jpg


Storem_Show_Peugeot_907_00020669.jpg


peugeot-hoggar_66ff0.jpg


peugeot-4002_key_4.jpg
 

saladine1

Junior Member
Sebring looks fantastic!

I don't know. People are complaining about lighting but there's quite a few instances where the footage seems to look realistic. Perhaps I'm easily pleased.

I also LOVE how driveline flex is modeled now. The KTM and the other cars can clearly be heard exhibiting this. Man, it adds so much to the dynamics!

Looking forward to the feature and other content reveals....
 

Mascot

Member
WIR is up.

Sounds like the embargo for the recent press event lifts next week:

Is this the event of jaws being dropped fame? Someone let Mascot know.

Ha ha..! Yeah, Helios alluded to this last night. Walt was definitely referring to the press event. Wish I'd known this earlier..!

Loving the new version of Sebring, and the X-Bow looks (and sounds) fantastic. No more white roads, much better trackside detail and far more natural lighting. It looks great! I will never get tired of seeing helicopters and hot air balloons in the sky during races. We only need a Goodyear blimp now to round things off nicely.

Still curious as to why we're still seeing mainly time trial footage with one car on track (and max four cars at Indy) at this late stage though. I'm guessing optimisation was still in progress when these videos were captured. No cause for concern. If the full game was shown at this week's press jamboree then I'm sure we'll be drowning in media early next week.

Has Blim been sent these recent videos yet? I need to download them in all their glory.
 

p3tran

Banned
So I wake up to yet another video and news that next week the media outlets will be talking forzalese.. not bad 8)
according to keikaku


I really like what they've done with Sebring.
it already was a very interesting track, but they really brought it to life here.

am happy

only one thing I'm missing for completion... laser scanned behemoth baby! 8)
I want to see the car bumping around green hell like in indy video, knowing that where it bumps, its because there is a bump there in reality..


So next week will be the final car reveal?
What does that mean for car count....?
haha you ask us? sal = worst.insider.ever :D
they could release way more than 20 car list next week.. just saying..



p.s.
disclaimer
guys, please use ALL other forza threads for your trolling and insecurity needs.
some of us need ONE thread to discuss the game. please respect that.
thank you
 

adelante

Member
You think the Alps direct feed was more impressive than this? Believe it or not, I actually think this is the best direct feed game footage we've gotten yet. The track isn't the most interesting, but it just has a really attractive look to it regardless. Maybe it's the lighting, but I like it..
Yeah and I think the color temperature's rather nice...given the open, bright daytime setting.

And is it just me, or are Turn 10 using AA in the cockpit view? I see almost no aliasing there at all.

Motionblur seems to be absent in cockpit view as well. Noticed this since they released the Spa gameplay video.
 

Xanadu

Banned
p.s.
disclaimer
guys, please use ALL other forza threads for your trolling and insecurity needs.
some of us need ONE thread to discuss the game. please respect that.
thank you

asking a question about the game is trolling? you have issues
 
I don't tend to nitpick, but when they show the onboard, the tire looks fucked up. A big old ridge in it that sticks out like a sore thumb.

That's not the tire, it's the mudguard that covers them. Look at the car in the attract sequence at the beginning and you can see them covering the tires.
 

Mascot

Member
I'm really looking forward to seeing Yas Marina in the media blowout next week. Am very curious how it will look. Apart from the hotel complex it's quite a plain-looking fenced-in track with no run-offs. I guess it'll be a tricky one to inject life into, especially during the day. Damn, how cool would the hotel RGB LEDs have looked at night as they phase around the spectrum? Still think a night race could be a slim possibility. No headlights are needed.
 

_machine

Member
disclaimer
guys, please use ALL other forza threads for your trolling and insecurity needs.
some of us need ONE thread to discuss the game. please respect that.
thank you
Oh come on, just because you can only be positive about everything in F5 doesn't mean the rest of us can't discuss it's legitimate cons. Yes there are the occasional troll, but so is there on the other side. I personally try to stay away from the rampant fanboyism whatever the subject, but some of your posts really come as irritating.

Anyway, the latest Sebring footage looks pretty darn great and I think the physics overall look a lot better than the past games where I think it wasn't quite convincing enough for me most of the time.The engine sounds really good and despite the weird ToD (with set time of day why did they choose such a late time with long shadows?) it looks really, really good. AA seems to work really nicely though the wires could use a bit of it.

Only thing that bothered me a little was the slightly too pronounced reflections on the carbon in the hood view (probably a technical reason with the way the hood reflections are done), but other than that I think it was pretty much the best looking footage we've seen from the latest build. Prague maybe still looked a little better, but that might've come down to the environment.

I really do hope they would fix the F40 model for the release; whilst the inaccuracies we've seen in some of the model have been really small and almost undetectable (I do think the S2000 is a bit off, but it is almost unnoticeable) the F40 is simply wrong. And for a car of that caliber it's a real shame, because it's a great car to drive and normally quite a looker in some ways.

FM5 and Knack are really the only games from the Next Gen launch line-up that really excite me (with #DC delayed and Ryse looking like a mess despite the premise and visuals), but I do hope that T10 will start adding back some of the real racing features (endurance racing, pitstops) along with some requested ones like changing weather and time in the next game, because as great as FM5 is looking there aren't that many new features that excite me, just some great content that we've been missing.
 

p3tran

Banned
asking a question about the game is trolling? you have issues

its was more of a ..disclaimer.
if I wanted to be specific about one thing, I would do so ;)

forza is a lot more than a happy slideshow of graphics depicting a car in the center.
its a shame to lower the game down to that level. dont you agree?
 

madmackem

Member
I just cant put my finger on it but non of the videos are getting me going for this. I dont know if im played out on forza or my tastes are changing but ive loved every forza that has came out finishing them all but its not getting my engines going for want of a better word.
 

saladine1

Junior Member
Whoah!

In one of the clues for next weeks reveal says "Built for Bathurst".

Now, if that isn't a general statement which is referring to one of the V8 Supercars, then it could mean these which were specifically built for Bathurst...

Ford XY GTHO Falcon
Dw4yYjo.jpg


Holden A9X Torana
ub5ez6p.jpg


Don't fuck with my heart Turn 10....
 

derFeef

Member
I just cant put my finger on it but non of the videos are getting me going for this. I dont know if im played out on forza or my tastes are changing but ive loved every forza that has came out finishing them all but its not getting my engines going for want of a better word.

Weird!
 

Superfrog

Member
Seriously, why do the cars have that weird static black blob under them still?
Thank god they're still using them. If the "blobs" weren't there, cars wouldn't have any shadow whatsoever beneath them in shadowy areas. I hate that, it looks so artificial.
 

Shaneus

Member
Whoah!

In one of the clues for next weeks reveal says "Built for Bathurst".

Now, if that isn't a general statement which is referring to one of the V8 Supercars, then it could mean these which were specifically built for Bathurst...

Ford XY GTHO Falcon
Dw4yYjo.jpg


Holden A9X Torana
ub5ez6p.jpg


Don't fuck with my heart Turn 10....
Oh god, it had better be the GTHO.

Could be "Car of the Future" (which will be in pCARS... at least, Ford's version) but I'm more inclined to think along the lines of the Falcon.

OR, it could be this:
zofAQmNm.jpg

(Potentially more likely, given it's similarity to the XB it may not be as difficult to model perhaps)
 
The lack of light reflecting off the cars really sticks out to me. When a real car has the sun bouncing off it you see it happening. Not so here.
 

saladine1

Junior Member
Oh god, it had better be the GTHO.

Could be "Car of the Future" (which will be in pCARS... at least, Ford's version) but I'm more inclined to think along the lines of the Falcon.

OR, it could be this:
zofAQmNm.jpg

(Potentially more likely, given it's similarity to the XB it may not be as difficult to model perhaps)

Yeah, I was actually going to put down the Cobra but thought would they really put in a similar car to the XB?

Either way, we know there is Aussie stuff coming. Fucking hyped!

Thanks to The-IC at Deviant Art for these classic Bathurst cars renders.
Oh man, can you imagine the races..??!!?

 

eso76

Member
last 3 vids all looked great.
sebring finally looks like a track i will want to race on.
silverstone looks great, indy too. screengrabs show very good iq, lighting is very natural and road textures' details dont suffer from becoming blurred lines in motion like they did in previous forzas.

i really hope camino is in and we get to see it soon, need to see final prague and the ring.

also, more replay footage T10 !
 

p3tran

Banned
so i tried to find this years footage of sebring international to see what t10 has done..

it looks to me that t10 version of sebring is more loaded with stuff than the real track is..

here is a comparo, but keep in mind that both videos skip many times and are not continuous.
forza video skips a little bit back or forth every time the camera changes, and the in-dash '65 corvette video is edited too. but if you pay attention and maybe pause one of the two for a couple of secs when it skips for the other to catch up, you can kind of "manual sync" :D

http://youtubedoubler.com/aJDw
 

G Rom

Member
Sebring in FM5 is probably simulating a big race day event instead of a track day which would have no TV coverage, no team trucks, almost no spectators, etc...
 

LeBoef

Member
Nah, every forza track has as many spectactors as you would see at the greatest racing leagues like f1, nascar, moto gp or le mans.

People that talk about dull real world tracks dont have a clue. Tracks are usually not very populated.
But those fancy guys that care more about whats going on beside the track, are heard by t10 so they add fancy stuff. Like gazillions of spectators, balloonsand other stuff (no dragons nor knights) at club sport racing and below.

Do we know anything about career races, are the 1v1 through traffic returning?

Good lord, please no more lmp1 vs tourists on ns.
 
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