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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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darkwing-buck
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SurrenderDorothy
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Looks like a young GRRM, lol.
The Artisan
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true, but she isn't a conquerer in Westeros either. she was both in Essos.
Jon Snow is GRRM's self insert! Dany and Jon confirmed.
darkwing-buck
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lmao GOT got star-wars level background characters
The Artisan
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this must be the first time someone dies of smoking the good stuff.
lmao GOT got star-wars level background characters
Maybe he switched sides.
What? She is trying to be.
The Artisan
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she is trying to be, but she isn't. she was a hero and a conquerer in Essos and she probably won't be one without the other in Westeros either.
Seductivpancakes
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lmao GOT got star-wars level background characters
I hope they're related.
There isn't really a positive for anyone other than Dany to conquer Westeros though.
Tainted
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I agree with some posts here about this season feeling a bit rushed, but that was always to be expected with the shortened seasons.
It is still the best show on TV at the moment and will be sad when it all comes to an end after next....but i'm sure the inevitable spin offs will be made...it has been too much of a money spinner for HBO.
It is still the best show on TV at the moment and will be sad when it all comes to an end after next....but i'm sure the inevitable spin offs will be made...it has been too much of a money spinner for HBO.
Oh stop it. Two whole kingdoms and half of another one wanted her there over Cersei. Dany is 100% and improvement of very Cersei, Tommen, and Joffrey, and that's even if she invaded KL day #1.
No. The noble leadership wanted to use Dany for revenge, now all 2 and half are content with Cersei.
lastplayed
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Kevan was yep.
Anything and anyone is an improvement over Cersei, what are you talking about lol? Also, Dorne isn't content with anything, they're just going to remain isolationists.
Yeah that was weird.
The most forgettable of Lannisters.
soundscream
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lmao GOT got star-wars level background characters
Oh shit I missed beard dude last episode. My favorite extra.
Vulcano's assistant
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lmao GOT got star-wars level background characters
this dude would be the main character of a Joe Abercrobie novel.
Dubbedinenglish
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Cersi had zombie mountain peolpe hunting people who mocked her, then blew up part of the city to take power. Goddamned right I'd be cheering too lol
Dorne is fine with Cersei, the Reach is fine with Cersei. The only kingdom who really hates Cersei, has broken apart from the rest of the seven kingdoms. Winter has come and if Dany never comes, the commonfolk won't give a shit about who is sitting on the throne, hell no more nobles even care anymore. A war now just brings more death and destruction to a land already under a lot of death and destruction.
I know you love Dany, but she is in no way a hero that the Westerosi people are in desperate need for.
DarkJediKnight
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Or after Jaime leaves, Olenna drinks the antidote that Elyria surely gave to her at Dragonstone. lol.
Imagine that. Jamie comes back an hour later and she's still sitting on that chair.
"You're not... dead" <does his trademark confused face>
"My, you're a smart one. Jaime Lannister, Grandma slayer!
SurrenderDorothy
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How is Dorne fine with Cersei?
I don't know what he's on about really.
The only people who cared in Dorne are either dead or captured, thats why they backed out of supporting Dany.
The fact that there is a reason that Dany no longer has any Westerosi allies, all her Westerosi allies were individuals in it for revenge, and once those individuals were gone, the kingdoms backed out. Westeros doesn't want nor need a savior.
What
SurrenderDorothy
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That in no way means they're fine with Cersei though. From what we saw of the guards who let Ellaria murder Doran, they all seemed to fall in line with Ellaria and co.
Dorne may be ''out'', but fine with Cersei? Absolutely not.
I know lol, raised my eyebrow.
Really?! Ellaria Sand murdered Prince Doran and his heir on the premise that every living person in Dorne was pissed that he hadn't started a war. Do you even watch this show? Lol
DarkJediKnight
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The Lannisters killed their Princess (Elia)! And their future prince. Dorne hates Lannisters.
Then why did they back out if they wanted a war so badly?
ScottSullivan
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Just finished up the episode, was not liking some of the cliche sounding dialogue in the first portion, but I loved the way the battle scene was shot. Going from scene to scene with someone telling the narrative of the battle, but you never knew who was actually going to the "victor"
DarkJediKnight
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Did she throw a shoe at him? lol
SurrenderDorothy
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They didn't back out, their strategy was cut off because of Euron's raid.
Where are you getting all of this off screen knowledge?
Backed out of what? What are you talking about? I have no clue what you're referring to, absolutely no clue at all. A nation that allowed regicide on their royal family because they wanted every single Lannister strung up and killed, is suddenly going to be chill with Lannisters? What?!
They still have an army, and Tyrion said in this very episode that they lost 2 allies when Jon was "brooding". If they wanted to still be involved in the war they wouldn't have been a lost ally.
Edit: err, Dany said it the following scene but the point still stands.
Yara and what was left of the Tyrells after the Tyrell bannermen defected. I imagine Dorne is still in the game, they just need to coordinate somehow.
Danaerys is a whole lot weaker now, though, and in such a bad position I'm not sure how she turns it around unless either the North and the Vale help out, or Dorne itself is just that strong.
Yes, as in Yara and Ellaria. Two allies captured by the enemy. I can 100% guaran-fucking-tee you that if Dorne figures out their leadership, they'd be right back at it against Cersei. You don't walk back murdering your entire royal family because you want to start wars with the Lannisters.
Hell if I'm Dany, I'd be flying to Sunspear right now and taking personal command of the Dornish forces. She'd get it too. I'd probably even move my seat from Dragonstone to Dorne, incorporate it as crown territory, and make the Targaryen house the successor house to the now vacant Martell seat. No god damn army is going to successfully invade Dorne, so I'd be safe while I plan my moves from there.
VenomousCoffee
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The figureheads don't matter... its the armies that do.
She definitely meant that she lost Dorne.
I am just going off what the shows says cuz D&D have the subtlety of a hammer.
SurrenderDorothy
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Kevan was great. Put Cersei in her place.
The show said she lost 2 allies but she had 3.
Dorne's army is in tact and they hate those blonde lion cunts, period. She could send a raven down there, wrap instruction to invade KL by foot around its legs, and the Dornish would be on the move by sunrise. That's how much Dorne hates the Lannisters.
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