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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Or 10 of House Impregnate the Bitch
I find it hard to believe that these great houses are so small. If they have been there for hundreds if not over a thousand years, you would think they would have a ton of cousins and second cousins lining up to lay claim to the likes of Dorne.
eomeone correct me if I'm wrong but the way I remember it wa that he started going through the books and saw that Littlefinger wasn't good at being the Master of Coin, he'd just always borrow gold when the Crown needed it, so he finds out they are in massive debt.
Tywin only tells Cersei about the gold and I don't recall a scene where she lets another character know.
Gunslinger
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Gunslinger
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Ok I removed it. Since no book talk here.
Gunslinger
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Yeah sorry I recall the Fortune teller scene in the show but I didn't recall that part not being in it.
The Real Abed
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I'm almost curious to know what that spoiler was. I mean does it seem like something that could become part of the show?
Gunslinger
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Most probably.
Lil'DigiOp
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Telling that story would literally make people stab you just to gasp when you get up or laugh if you dont
I actually felt bad for Ellaria in that scene.
Why? Because I thought Indira Varma was absolutely fantastic in it and it made me sad she had to play such a terrible character.
Kenzodielocke
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Varys has become weird. Either badly written or he plans something. It's just odd.
Indira Varma was SO fucking good in that scene. You want someone to show a massive amount of dread without a single word uttered? You gotta hire Indira Varma.
What do you mean? I haven't noticed him acting weird.
I don't think he's been weird, I just think he is up to no good. I really, really think there is more to Varys and Tyrion, like they are planning something. Me and my girlfriend have been talking about how the Lannisters are staying one step ahead of Dany. Maybe Varys is leaking their plans. It's fun to speculate.
lastplayed
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Poor Varys
Heshinsi and others should learn from these soul snatchings. Our Lord is real....or Bran.
Man I almost forgot Melisandre was a wrinkly old woman.
Seductivpancakes
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He seems to be shook last episode.
Magic is one of the only things that shake him and she just told him he is going to die. Not sure if I'd say that's him acting weird.
Seductivpancakes
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I don't recall him being startled or shook before so it was a new experience for me to see. It's good a good scene and glad they kind of showed he has many sides.
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention it until now. First thought when seeing it was the creators trying to counteract the Jamie scene earlier in the series.
Before last week I would've sworn Varys was loyal to Dany, but the encounter with Melisandre did give me doubts. I almost felt a tone of "mhmm I know what you been up to and you're gonna die for it" from her. Maybe I'm being paranoid but I'm beginning to wonder if Dany's little speech about burning him if he betrays her was put in for a reason. Varys, like Littlefinger, is always looking at the bigger picture and playing at a higher level, though his motives seem more altruistic, like all of his decisions are made with a "greater good" in mind.
I don't see it with Tyrion though. I just can't imagine he would ever intentionally do anything to help Cersei.
Kenzodielocke
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What rape?
He saw a pretty different side of him when he talks about magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgiPmG7OLE
seriously?
Kenzodielocke
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Yeah. Is it implied that Jaime gets raped by Cersei?Maybe I have to watch that again, buf I didn't get that vibe.
The rape where Cersei has sex with him but he says no and nothing beyond that - you can see he's conflicted and doesn't consent. His first and only line is no.
Just goes to show how it doesn't matter the other way around, but a couple of seasons back it was the biggest scandal ever.
Watch the scene again, she kisses him and he says "no" but she continues, and then he gets into it as well. Then the next scene is him lovingly looking at her while she sleeps.
Kenzodielocke
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Yeah, because Jaime has the physical power to refuse, Cersei does not. Not comparable, sorry.
He liked that dick in her mouth for sure though.
That's exactly how I feel about the guy. He's one of my favorite characters on the show because of it, actually. I think there is more to him than we know right now.
I don't think Tyrion wants to help Cersei, I think he wants to help Tyrion. Why not let the two biggest threats to the throne kill one another while he and Varys destroy the leftovers and rule together. I admit it's a bit fan-fictiony on my end, but it would be a nice twist.
Although if we are talking about fan-fic I want the White Walkers to be on the cusp of destroying the 7 Kingdoms when Tormund and Brienne save the day and annihilate the Night's King. King Tormund and Queen Brienne of Tarth. Now we're talking.
She's a rampaging murder machine, do you really wanna refuse that?
I mean, you guys do know Jaime loves her, right?
And cersei loves him, that didn't stop people from claiming rape in that case.
At the same time, the scene is about Cersei exerting her power as queen over him. He can't reject her in that context, which leads to the realisation of how trapped he is later with Olenna.
SurrenderDorothy
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That direction was what they ''intended'' when Jaime went for Cersei a couple seasons back.
Though that was one big mess of a scene at the sept.
Though that was one big mess of a scene at the sept.
AndrewDean84xX
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Who's got time to like someone new when you are waging war on the Iron Throne or the Night King?
I was unaware rape is defined by who has the physical power...
He's clearly in an emotional place in that scene and she took advantage of that, she clearly has an air of power behind her after getting revenge and a dominance, and she uses that dominance and his affection for her to have sex with him.
Just because he had sex with her doesn't mean it's consensual, again, the only thing he said was no. Compare that to the scene with them before and she said no but then physically consented and a bunch of people proclaimed to never watch the show again.
There's not one article mentioned about it neither. So sorry, you argument is pretty shit.
Not that I agree with the reading of the scene but rape isn't just about physical power. Cersei has all the power in the relationship so it could happen.
chicko1983
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whatever you do, do not go on youtube and watch some of the theories about who varys really is.
Nameless
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It's vengeance, it's either going to fall flat or be the sweetest thing there is. Joffrey and Ramsay enjoyed causing misery for misery's sake, or out of boredom. This was Dany vowing to hear Mirri Maz Duur's dying screams as she burned or Arya's Frey Pie/Red Feast or Sansa watching in delight as Ramsay was torn apart by his own beasts. Did the Queen of Thorns not revel in Joffrey's death before throwing that Spirit Bomb on her way out? I thought it was clever how both revenge scenes this episode enhanced each other.
It should if you saw how the scene plays out.
He firsts tells her no because he has his hand off and it's a sour subject for him, and it makes him feel useless and immaculate, especially when she has used this subject against him. As soon as he sees her walking in, he tries to put the hand back up, but she pushes it aside, letting him know she doesn't care he doesn't care about that anymore, and starts kissing me. He still feels weird about it, so he says no, but literally a split second after that he starts kissing her and then grabs the back of her head.
Nothing about this scene convey rape. At all.
Kenzodielocke
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Bad wording. Let's call it rape then, I agree. Just didn't feel that way to me.
you forgot the cheek squeeze
I don't think it shows pettyness, I think it says a lot, however, in that no one is reporting or commenting on it. It would be vastly different if the scene was the same but roles reversed. I think it's telling that in TV and film anything bad that happens to a woman is scandalous and sexist, but everything and anything can happen to men.
I do wonder if it was intentional for him to resist at first, or to incite a discourse about it. It's pretty shitty to not see anyone mention it, though.
The Artisan
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They both need allies so, it's better they get along and come to a damn compromise...(which it seems like they're on their way to)
He says No.
What? Where did I state that I was set that this was the true narrative? I definitely believe Daenerys needs to be screwed hard in her choices to come back gloriously, maybe losing one dragon out of it. I just think Cersei is going to momentarily win then get screwed by white walkers.So are you new to narrative structure? Did you watch Empire Strikes Back and think "Oh no.. the emperor is going to kill everyone and rule supreme"
There is no drama if Danny comes through and wipes out everyone right away. No, she needs to go down 3 - 28. Then rise up from her darkest moment and lay down the hammer.
Also I noticed in this episode especially that we seem to be getting incredibly sped up battles. Castle Rock should have been this momentous battle yet it was over quite quickly. I know their forces were relatively small because the Lannisters pulled out and made a decoy but it still felt so void of drama. Same with the boats being attacked and the Tyrrells, just sort of happened.
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